Devron

2 minutes ago, R3aL said:

EP2

Mynio

Kudryavtsev

Thanks, couldn’t think who they were but makes sense now. If one can be an NHL regular that would be a win in my books 

Just now, MeanSeanBean said:

And he played his best hockey in reduced minutes. Now he'll be payed suitably for those reduced minutes. But saying he hasn't been a. Top 4 defensemen in Vancouver is just false. Whether it was by poor team design or not, he was played as a top 4 defensemen. 

Oh I know he was yes but was it good for him was it good for the team? No I don’t think so otherwise we would have been harder to pay against, we were easy to play against 

1 minute ago, R3aL said:

was just highlighting that we have three legit LHD prospects developing quite nicely. 

Which ones are those? 

Just now, MeanSeanBean said:

He's averaged over 21 minutes a night since signing in Vancouver. He's played the minutes of a top 4 guy.

Thats what I’m saying. He was way over his head to begin with. He’s finally in a place more suited for him and with the right coaching now.

Just now, coho8888 said:

What, you think the cap was limitless?  Everyone and their dog here knew that we couldn’t sign all our free agents.  We had tough choices to make.  There’s every opportunity to improve our club with the flexibility of more cap which involves not signing some of our FA’s because they may be priced above what we can afford

Yep we’ll see what they do here on July.1st but remember those guys will likely be overpaid too, pick your poison 

3 minutes ago, German Canuck said:

To get better and more balanced

For a year or 2. Guess it’s now or never 

Just now, Dizzle said:

Myers won the Calder. He’s always been a good defenceman… even when he was struggling here he was still a top four guy. 

No he has not been. Big part of that was coaching though. That and we tried to make him a no.2 

Just now, CaptainCanuck12 said:

First Tryamkin, now Zadorov...........   

 why do all our bigs ones get away?!!        

Man. I actually hated all the Tryamkin talk. Dude left before he even got here. I’ll be done with Z too after this but yeah it sucks. Finally we had a scary defence core but we’ll see how it turns out 

Just now, Combover said:

Does or can  he clear the front of the net

(180 pounds) 

does he lay big hits 

is he at all physical

does he have any kind of point shot. 

can he stand up for teammates or goaltender 

 

we have enough guys that don’t do any of those thing we don’t need anymore.  

he’s a meh player and we’d have to give up assets that we really don’t have to get him. 
so he’s a big no thanks for me. 
 

 

I don’t even care what he can and can’t do why would be trading more shit away 

3 minutes ago, greenbean30 said:

You're getting upset because Zads is likely gone, which I get, it sucks losing a liked player. My question to you though, is if he signs at $6m for 6 or 7 years somewhere, would you have been happy with us giving him that, or close to it? Cause I know I sure as hell wouldn't.

We have to see what he signs for before passing judgement. We have the money available, PA and JR just aren't going to overpay someone, be it Lindholm or Zadorov.

I think somewhere around 5 would have been great but the way Z hit a new level in the playoffs I was ready to give that man whatever he wanted. I do think he has another level too like he said in his interview and I believe him. Hes a big man and sometimes that comes later. I know he’s 29 but Myers is 34 and finally started playing like an NHL defencemen. 

1 minute ago, Pickly said:

Because we don’t have a Crosby Mackinnon or McDavid where you can perennially contend given you have a top 3 player in the world to carry the club. The Panthers just won a cup with a similarity constructed roster as the Canucks. I’d rather win one cup and suck for 10 years than be a playoff team like the Leads year in and year out and embarrass themselves every single time. 

And the Panthers have been in the playoffs for the past 5 years. They also have a guy called Barkov. We have a Pettersson and Hughes. No reason they can’t model a team around those guys for the next 10 years 

5 minutes ago, Pickly said:

Let’s not pout about 5-7 years from now and let’s focus on what’s immediately in front of us. They performed exceptionally well this year and were within a game of beating the Oilers and could have made the cup finals with a healthy goalie and Petey performing at 60% of his capabilities. This management group has turned us from a laughing stock to a bonafide cup contender. Have faith 

Yeah we’ve been through hell. A almost a decade and a half of losing. I don’t think it’s too much to ask for a few years of battling for a cup. If we don’t get it then we have to wait another decade. Lots of teams do it for 5-7 years. Why can’t we. Why do we make those trades for Z and Lindholm and not even retain one of them. Why are we trying to build a D core of old dudes. If Willander doesn’t turn out we’re screwed 

3 minutes ago, Pickly said:

Let’s not pout about 5-7 years from now and let’s focus on what’s immediately in front of us. They performed exceptionally well this year and were within a game of beating the Oilers and could have made the cup finals with a healthy goalie and Petey performing at 60% of his capabilities. This management group has turned us from a laughing stock to a bonafide cup contender. Have faith 

That’s what I mean though. I want that team 

Just now, Pickly said:

5-7 years from now Hughes could be gone and Miller will be at the end of his career. The window to succeed as a club is narrow unless you have a generational player or two locked into reasonable long term deals (Crosby,Malkin)

Yeah wouldn’t suprise me if they let Quinn walk too 

23 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

 

Re-signing Myers at 3 m was overpay.

 

His performance over 6 years was overpay.

he played like  a 3 million dollar D man for 6

years .  Now at 34 yrs to 37 years he’s a 3m per ?

 

This player will haunt us .

I don’t think it will haunt us. Just think it’s dumb. We will have so many holes in the bottom 4 in a couple years. Allvin trying to win the cup next year. I’d prefer a 5-7 year plan with this core 

17 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

Let's check in on Lucic while we're at it.

Perry too

12 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

I never criticized you for not liking the direction. You just got defensive and started acting bitchy. But you do you boo, if you wanna act bitchy then fly right at'er.

No worries 

18 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

Lol what bug flew up your ass? You do realize you were the one that started acting bitchy in this conversation right?

Oh was I? Don’t like the direction and I’m allowed to have that opinion. 

3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Every team needs their cheerleaders, Dev. apollo left some big shoes to fill. 

Damn I forgot about that guy. Legend 

Just now, PhillipBlunt said:

The youth movement was overrated, Dev. 

We went from 0 to a 100 in one year lol 

24 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

Yup, I did miss becoming overly attached to a player due to elevated play in a contract year. Thankfully. Also thankful it missed our management as well.

Yeah our management can’t do no wrong. Can’t have differing opinions. Whatever they do will be the right decision 

Alright onto the 35 year olds, let’s go! Yes I know he’s 33 lol 

5 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

Wait, you mean a player played above his career average during the final moments of a contract year?! That never happens, I'm shocked. 

Yeah did you miss it. Quite cerebral, exciting hockey. 

10 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

He's always been a 4/5 and not worth 5 million.

Yup except in the playoffs when he was our best Dman. But playoffs don’t matter. She’s all good, we got Myers