Devron

4 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said:

 

Well, that settles that then.

Walked into that one haha 

4 minutes ago, Lemon Face said:

Again playing GM game?What Alvin has to do for you to endorse him????

I am the GM. 

Just now, bishopshodan said:

It's dumb.

 

If he succeeds in Edm, which is unlikely the way he is trending, then he will be in our division on our biggest rival.

 

Last thing I want to see is him bloom in Edm and spend seasons blowing up Canucks with decent hits.

 

Not worth the risk for a 4th. 

 

Exactly. Obviously there’s a chance we got a 4th round pick for nothing. But why even risk that to a division rival. Dumb 

Just now, qwijjibo said:

Is it though? Do you really see Podkolzin as an impact player worthy of all this angst? I'm not even convinced he's an NHL player at this point 

Middle six forward absolutely 

Just now, qwijjibo said:

So trade him for another disappointing player that likely wouldn't make a top tier club but would probably be claimed on waivers anyway? 

Absolutely. At least it’s something. Or give him another chance in training camp. I would have preferred waivers to this 1000%

I would not be doing Edmonton any fkin favours and that is exactly what this is. A deal with the devil 

3 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said:

Well, Podz recently did an interview in Russian mentioning his development trajectory, the challenges, his playing time and how he needs more trust and playing time to take his game to new heights. He also recently talked to the media about why Kuz was traded and how Kuz got a fresh start.

 

He was well aware of his situation and the challenges he faced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he, himself, actually wanted a fresh start. 

 

 

Then he should have been traded for another player in a similar situation. Instead they traded him to our biggest rival and a team we have to pass to win the cup. This is a failed move. I don’t care what anyone says 

Don’t try and shed light on this. It sucks and potentially awful trade. Would have rather lost him on waivers if he didn’t make the team. But at least then we could have given him another shot 

Why the fuck is even the point, and don’t give me this “at least we got a pick” crap either 

Well that’s too bad 

34 minutes ago, Spiked Alia said:

 

I'd target Rasmus Andersson.

 

1. He's a RHD

2. Plays a solid two-way physical game

3. Is a Top 4 calibre d-man when playing well.

4. Would look good playing alongside Hughes which could allow Hronek to be the PMD on a pairing with Soucy.

5. Very good cap hit.

6. He's Swedish.

 

My guess is that it would take atleast Garland, a 2nd, and a mid prospect (Woo?) at minimum, but who knows.

 

No because F that guy 

5 hours ago, IBatch said:

Edit:  Horvat made an impact as kid versus CAL.   And felt his bubble efforts were on par with Lindens heroics.   Truly wanted to see more of Horvat in the post season, he has  great series versus St. Louis and O'Reilly.   Was it 10 goals in 17 games?  Pretty darned good. 

Yeah he was pretty awesome for us in the playoffs. Side note I remember the Sedins saying don’t change your game or something like that when he got the C but I think he did to a degree. I also think coaching played a factor. Would have been interesting to see Horvat under Tocc without the contract bs 

14 hours ago, EastCoastExpress said:

to be fair, if Horvat was with Petey again, they would both be worth their respective contracts.

8.5 for Bo seemed crazy 2 years ago but now it would be pretty on target, and maybe even great in the next couple years.

Maybe we can get him back?

It’s not a bad deal, pretty average. Could have got him for 7 that previous summer. One of my favourite players ever. The fit was no longer however. We evolved 

On 8/6/2024 at 5:04 PM, fuzzy said:

I hope the oilers sign him to a ridiculous contract that cripples them financially for the next decade and they wallow in mediocrity in perpetuity. A pox on their house!

Mmm I love the sound of that 

1 hour ago, AnthonyG said:

Well to be fair Allvin overpaid in an attempt to create a more competitive roster based on how the 2021-22 season finished. However now that we are considered a contender, overpayment goes out the door and pay cuts are handed out to those who want to win.

Allvin didn’t overpay or strike out on Kuzmenko, he struck a goald mine and didn’t cash in on it. Kuzmenko’s biggest issue is his skating. From the get go I was never sold on him and called for trade while his value was high at the rate he was producing. His stride is too choppy and he’s a bit of a hay bailer. Skill and shot, is fucking unreal but the thing that causes forwards to decline is their skating and in his prime age, his skating was already below average. Allvin fucked up and held on when he should have moved Kuzmenko and kept Horvat and could have still acquired Hronek in return. Traded away a pretty damn respectable two way C who can put up 30 goals and kept Kuzmenko, only to sell at rock bottom on Kuzmenko and then go and reacquire a 2way C. We would still have assets today to make an even bigger push at the TDL. So to me, this was pretty bad asset management imo. I didn’t like it at the time and really don’t like it now. That being said though, Allvin has pivoted quite quickly and recovered quite nicely in the offseason. 

Who knows if Horvat would have taken 7.5 or even 8mil to stay at home, after JT took 8, I would like to think Horvat would follow suit.

 

Matthew’s is a 1 dimensional player
EP just hit his prime, Mackinnon is at the peak and plateau of his prime…. Mackinnon took some time to get up and running and has had far more star players around him. Pettersson has been putting up goals from the moment he arrived, Mackinnon took 5 seasons to break the 25 goal mark. Pettersson has had to deal with some shitty linemates and let’s be real here, he’s playing a full 200ft game and keeping up with the points with a lot of 1 star players. Give the guy some talent around him and more favourable zone starts and watch the points pile up. 
Pettersson is not only more of a two way player, but he is deployed as one as well. What I mean by that is Pettersson works hard in both ends, harder than Mackinnon and because he has that determination to get the puck back he is given nearly 50/50 zone start distribution, where as Mackinnon is a 60/40 distribution. Pettersson has more impact on possession than Mackinnon as well. For example at 5v5

Mackinnon’s last 3 seasons

2021-22 60.6%oZS  50.4%CORSI

2022-23 66.7%oZS  56.1% CORSI

2023-24 63.2%oZS  56.5%CORSI

 

Pettersson 

2021-22 58.5%oZS  50.4%CORSI
2022-23 53.3%oZS  50.5%CORSI
2023-24 53.3%oZS  52.8%CORSI

 

There is a pretty noticeable difference in CORSI vs zone starts for Mackinnon and pretty small differences for Pettersson outside of the 2021-22 season.

So I go and look at giveaways and takeaways.

 

Mackinnon 218GP

2021-22 37TKA 56GVA

2022-23 43TKA 47GVA

2023-24 42TKA 82GVA

 

Pettersson 242GP

2021-22 56TKA 39GVA

2022-23 56TKA 47GVA

2023-24 50TKA 30GVA 

 

Pettersson has 69 fewer giveaways in 24 more games played and also 40 more takeaways. Less favourable zone starts, worse linemates AND kills penalties. Pettersson spent 112mins short handed last season compared to Mackinnons 5.2minutes. Mackinnon has 268mins TOI short handed in his entire career and 150 of those minutes were in 1 season 8 years ago. Pettersson has 260ish minutes short handed the last 2 seasons combined. Pettersson does everything, he absolutely took a home town discount if you ask me. The kid can spend 140mins short handed 13minsTOI at 5v5 with a 3.3% favourable offensive zone start over the dzone…and get 100pts.

Dryercycle as @Alflives calls him, Mackinnon, Matthew’s and Crosby do not do that. These guys get more ice time 5v5 so yea there stats should be inflated.

Pettersson averaged 13.41minTOI 5v5

Mackinnon 17.11

Crosby 15.36

Dryercycle 15.45

Matthews 15.49

 

2mins minimum more at 5v5…. No PK time and almost all over 60%oZS. Just think of how much more Pettersson could produce with those sorts of advantages.

 

 

 

As for the taxes….. they really need to have pro-rated caps across the league based off the tax markets and have contracts in % and not $ so that it’s transferable across the league which would make it more appealing to waive their NTC or NMC. Your pay would be the same no matter where you got shipped to and it would be fair across the league that no team had advantages because of taxes.

 

 

 

So basically Petey is the man and people should stop shitting on him. Cant wait for the season! 

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Love ya Joe

Injuries will happen 

Yeah that won’t change anything. It’s a letter…