Devron

27 minutes ago, Theo5789 said:

On 7/12/2024 at 6:57 PM, arby18 said:

SIGNING: The Vancouver Canucks have signed Ilya Nabokov to a three-year contract.

                            

 - Ilya Nabokov - Three-year contract worth $11.25 million dollars ($3.75m per season - $3.0m base plus $0.75m signing bonus)

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 AGENCY

12 hours ago, Dak Prescott said:

The Wild will not match and take the comp

I actually thought his 2 way game was decent. Looked uncomfortable in the Offence Zone though 

On 7/2/2024 at 9:15 PM, Conscience said:

Kylington please 

Yeah I’d like to see him try out. Puck moving guy and I like a good story. Mental illness sucks. I like to see people overcome it and give others hope 

On 7/13/2024 at 9:04 AM, PureQuickness said:

 

Yes, but can this new Petey play hockey? He's too bulky....

Petey does not need to come to camp heavy. Just won’t work for him, that’s not his body type. You’re spot on here. Only problem with Pete was injury and confidence 

1 minute ago, Gawdzukes said:

 

Yeah Dev. I get where you're coming from and agree somewhat. It really depends on their strategy moving forward. I wonder though if he/team has a bad start though maybe it makes it easier to trade him for a better fit moving forward. It would be a difficult trade as it would have to come with an extension for the other team. Otherwise, some assets or an affordable young player could really set us up to transition to the next phase/Hughes and Demko contracts/OEL hit.

 

I agree though in principal. If the team is doing well and Boeser is playing like last year it would be very hard to just trade him for less than an upgrade. Maybe then as you say let it play out and then make a solid attempt to re-sign before free agency, or let his contract expire and gain the cap space. 

 

It's a real tricky couple years here for management and really the major decisions are coming up quickly. Good teams need to make use of their assets and part of me hopes they are going to be smart/courageous about the future and are not just going all in every year either.

 

Hope your summer is going well brother!

Good points. It’s not all cut and dry, I guess that’s how I see it playing out though. Would love to see Brock a forever Canuck. Maybe score the Stanley cup winner  

going pretty good man. Thanks for asking! 

9 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said:

If he doesn’t extend I think he forces our hand even if we are making another run. 
 

But I think Brock is loyal for his next contract and extends at a reasonable term. I honestly think he’ll take closer to his current salary than many expect.

I think he takes a reasonable salary as well. I expect 30 goals this year, not 40 and that fine. It will help his aav 

10 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

 

 they were rentals though

 

 

Management has stated a number of times they won't let good players walk away for nothing. That will be put to the test if they don't re-sign Boeser by the TDL. They signed him once already and I think they probably will again. 

 

I wonder what if Brock has a good year or if he sputters a bit. Could really affect the approach.

 

 

The only way a Brock trade works is if it doesn’t hurt their playoff chances. Therefore I believe it’s either he re signs or walks. We need him for the playoffs 

4 minutes ago, PureQuickness said:

 

The team probably was competitive. Choosing to stick with Green when the results haven't shown otherwise is ridiculous though. Green has not really shown to be a good coach, aside from his performance in the bubble.

Probably Benning down fall, he was on to something roster wise. Wasn’t a great GM but hanging on to Green and Co was his demise.

12 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Only a 5th & a future 6th round pick for Z.  Sure we can't afford to be throwing away picks (even late ones) but even as just a rental, it was a pretty cheap price.

Yeah I ain’t worried about it. Just saying trading Brock to get assets back instead of going all in again this year doesn’t seem like what we are about. I’m fine with that. I’d be cautious about trading 1st rounders but I can’t see them trading Brock because they are afraid of him walking. We are trying to win 

24 minutes ago, Sapper said:

I don't consider loosing big Z and Lindholm as letting them walk as rentals are normally a big risk of retaining

It’s the same kind of thing though really, we traded assets to get them. Its a loss anyway you slice it 

10 minutes ago, Sapper said:

What I'm talking about is the tanev, Toffoli and Marky situation where high asset value players where allowed to go into UFA and keeping them actually hurt the team as we lost them for nothing 

Problem with Benning is he thought the team was competitive 

We were going on a big playoff run, remember lol.

In Bennings defence I wouldn’t have traded Marky either though. Tough trading your number 1 when it looks like you might make the playoffs which we technically had 

But yeah way different ball game now. 

7 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said:

I think some guys can be viewed as rentals so it’s a little bit different, but generally I agree. I do think that seeing those guys walk this summer will embolden management to not let UFAs walk this year though. 

It’s not much different. Boeser is more important to the team in the playoffs regardless of his contract status. Horvat was traded when we were missing the playoffs. The game has changed. They won’t wanna see us play against Boeser in the playoffs. It’s all about trying to win a cup now 

4 minutes ago, Sapper said:

This gm team would not permit UFA's to play out a contract. If they can't resign him they will trade him.

 

This version of Canucks management simply won't let assets go to UFA and risk losing them for nothing which we did with several players under the last gm

Must have missed this summer 

I guess no one cared. Sad 

12 minutes ago, Grandmaster said:

Very likely considering how we need him for our top 6, losing him will cost us too much for next playoffs, extension or not 

Agreed they will try to fill the whole via free agency 

2 minutes ago, Grandmaster said:

I’m with trading Brock over signing him to that. I don’t have much faith that he can keep last season up

They won’t trade him. If negotiations get tough he’ll go to free agency. We aren’t in a stage of trading pending UFA’s 

Damn would have liked the depth, possible improvement 

What a degenerate 

Nothing is as clean as Elite Prospects.

Some of the other ones while having a whack of stats etc I find hard to navigate 

What’s the verdict? 
 

Still think it’s a fair deal myself. Nothing less, nothing more. Happy to have a Canadian on the team again. Probably fit nicely with Pete or JT. Hopefully Pete to balance out the top 6 

36 minutes ago, Mando27 said:

Canucks will make the playoffs, pacific is too weak. My heart wants us to win the div, but my brain says Edm probably takes it.

Whys it the pacific is too weak, And not that the Canucks are just good?, or are we still living in the world of overachieving still?