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Gotta wonder if am extension is in play, if we go out and he walks that'd smart a bit

That's a lot to give up, Lindholm was a good target though

I think we see four new teams over the next 10-15 years, they may very well get one

Maybe, location of any arena is a big factor imo I understand why the NHL wants Atlanta to succeed

It's definitely not just a Canadian issue, western birthrates have been declining for decades But not just out west, as you've mentioned

I'm not sure what to make of that one, as someone with ADHD and a learning disability Two of my three siblings have one, the other, or both as well I can see why that would scare folks away from having kids, but I also think folks are more likely to be diagnosed nowadays in part because we know so much more than we did when even I was a small child I think a lot of folks from previous generations simply went undiagnosed, or that negative stigmas were more prevalent than they are now to some degree Disability a broad, multifaceted subject, but while there's still much to learn and figure out we know more than we once did

I think societal views on what amounts to "independence" haven't caught up with modern realities to a degree too With the way costs of housing, costs of living, costs in general have gone up it's tough to be single and financially independent Not impossible, several folks make it work, but it's tough I think you're right about stuff too though, many Canadians have credit card dept and it ain't all the day to day essentials But it's tricky, I understand why economic turmoil and the barrage of bad news could drive spending habits too Maybe, I'd love for my partner to go back to school for similar reasons, probably isn't as feasible as home owners though so it'd probably have to come first It's tough though, school makes you put a lot of things on the back burner, parenthood would likely be one of them, hard to say Could be I'm just closer to 40 as a first time parent

I think there's still a lot of negative stigma attached to living with your immediate family, particularly for younger folks. I grew up with the view of moving out, getting a car, and getting a place being the goal. Many us still do it, but most of the folks I know in my age bracket rent. Those who don't usually either have family help or have gotten an inheritance. This is just my lived experience though. But times have changed, I don't get to participate in the economies my parents did. I think many Canadian families are going to have to adapt, which should lead to more intergenerational families and dwellings. There are upsides and downsides to it, but it's fascinating to explore. Many folks do it out of necessity. If I go back it'll probs be for a masters of social work or some sort of counseling masters. Doubt I'd do it full time, doing a full time bachelors has been pretty miserable, particularly given mine is an online program. But that's also more common nowadays. It being online is why I'm on CFF so much tbh, I spend most days on my laptop.

Probably. Canada's social safety net, or what remains of it, seems to be leaning further and further towards putting the responsibility of taking care of the young and old old on the backs of families and communities. This isn't insignificant considering Canadians are living longer than ever. There is no single answer to declining birth rates, but I wouldn't necessarily say school/career or family has to be one or the other. Not that you were. A couple years back Canada was the most educated country in the world per capita, not sure if that's the case anymore. Many go back for family reasons, to try and get ahead. It's why I went back a third time, if I go back for a masters it'll be the biggest reason why. Mind you, the western world does place more emphasis on individualism than collectivism. Multigenerational families are much more of a norm in many Eastern countries for example. The nuclear family is also a relatively modern western thing if I'm not mistaken.

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Ahh, yes. But won't Chytil coming back whittle into that? I'm assuming Kaako goes, but I'm assuming that cap space is used on the return. Hard to say whether it stays open or not. Their bottom six may get modest raises, nothing huge. I'm assuming Lindgren and Chytil get modest increases too, and that their backup costs more than Quick. Maybe Kuzmenko could fit if they moved out Goodrow. Dunno, I just don't really see Kuzmenko as being a great fit for New York.

That's definitely a factor, families often aren't as big as they were even a few generations ago.

Hasn't that already been happening? I can't say I've paid super close attention to that, but it makes sense how costs of living would squeeze younger folks out. Honestly, there's a lot of appeal to not having children. It's a sacrifice any way you spin it, and sometimes the pros just aren't going to outweigh the cons. I've always viewed parenthood as something that would be an adventure, but I can definitely understand the appeal of deciding not to have children. More time, money, and freedom to mention a few factors. I thought I'd be a father by now tbh, I always wanted to be one growing up, but the older I get the cooler I am with it not happening.

Yukon could be interesting, don't know about Nunavut though, that's a very hard place to live for almost anyone. At least Whitehorse would be larger. Northern BC is interesting, there seem to be a lot of folks who live in Dawson but work out of Alberta. Grande Prairie is about an hour away in good weather. You could probably say the same for Fort St. John, which is only about an hour from Dawson. Daycare is a huge need, it's a huge expenditure for families. The problem is working in that field doesn't typically pay all that well, my mom's been an early childhood educator longer than I've been alive and the profit some centers make is pretty nuts. Particularly if it's more on the side of being a montessori. It's amazing what folks will spend on childcare when considering the other month to month expenses families have. But what do you do? Can't just leave your young children home alone. Maritimes are physically beautiful, absolutely. Smaller populations though, so you get everything that comes with that economically. It's tricky nowadays any way you spin it, most Canadians definitely don't have it easy regardless of their age. Lot of Canadians both young and old will probably never be able to retire, that may be a thing of the past going forward.

Not necessarily, multigenerational families will become more of a norm going forward imo.

I kinda already have, moved from Nanaimo to Dawson Creek in June. I'm basically in Alberta at this point. The plan was always to go back, but plans can change. We won't be staying in Dawson though, my partner was born here and given she's fourth or fifth generation Dawson Creek she wants out. The problem with smaller towns/cities is that when your roots are that deep you've got family connections everywhere. She works for Service BC, which would make leaving the province trickier, but we could realistically move anywhere in BC that has a Service BC opening. I'll graduate in 2025 and there's seemingly no shortage of work for social workers, but it really depends on where the work is and what I do/don't want to do. I'm open to the idea of being a father but not entirely sold on it, my partner is uncertain too and that's the biggest factor tbh. I'd be lying if I said economic factors weren't a good reason not to, raising children was never cheap. A lot of folks have been trying this though, a couple friends of mine moved up to Dawson 5-6 years ago because houses in Nanaimo were selling before they could even physically look at them. They've got a young daughter now. Dawson itself seems to be a popular destination for immigrants, the population up here is much more diverse than Nanaimo was when considering population proportions imo. Housing costs are less up here, but one has gotta wonder how long that'll last as housing is a strong draw. Lot of folks have been doing precisely what you asked me it seems.

This ties into several other issues, namely the housing crisis and the costs of living. Lot of young folks are struggling to get by, let alone raise families. As someone in their early 30's I can't tell you how many folks in my age bracket I've spoken to who are choosing not to have kids for these reasons. If my partner and I don't have children it'll be a big contributing factor. There's never a perfect time to have kids, but it just doesn't seem feasible or responsible for many. It's not necessarily that folks don't want to have children, but it's seemingly more expensive than ever when other economic factors are accounted for. https://globalnews.ca/news/10262331/canadas-fertility-rate-record-low/ The Canadian fertility rate has hit its lowest level since Statistics Canada began collecting data more than a century ago. The agency released its most recent numbers Wednesday, showing the birth rate fell to 1.33 children per woman in 2022, well below the replacement level of around 2.1. Canada’s birth rate dropped from 1.43 in 2021 and continues a “downward trend [that] began in 2009.” This is a national trajectory with record lows in nearly every province and territories. Quebec and Nova Scotia were the exceptions, says Statistics Canada. “Canada seems to be moving into this club of nations with birth rates that could be characterized as ‘ultra-low,’” Don Kerr, a demographics professor at King’s College, Western University in London, Ont., said in an interview earlier this month. While birth rates have been steadily declining for more than a decade, the pace accelerated “at the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic,” according to Statistics Canada. Its report ‘Fertility in Canada 1921 to 2022’ says Canada, like other countries, is riding the “fertility ‘pandemic rollercoaster’” with more families putting off having children. “Given the COVID-19 pandemic initiated a period of public health crisis, as well as economic and societal shocks, it is possible that a segment of the population responded to this period of widespread uncertainty via their childbearing choices,” it reads. How economic uncertainty factors in Kerr says prolonged economic uncertainty may be dragging Canada’s low birth rates down even further. “It’s been tight for a lot of people. Inflation certainly hasn’t helped. For some couples, looking at their paycheques, looking at their expenses, they’re saying ‘maybe now is not an ideal time to have kids.’” The average age of mothers at childbirth was 31.6 in Canada and 34.4 for fathers. The demography professor says there are notable regional differences, with the country’s largest cities seeing even lower levels than the national average. He points to Vancouver, where the birth rate is 1.1 children per woman. “I’d assume that the cost of housing is relevant there,” adds Kerr. Why Canada is not unique Every G7 country experienced a dip in fertility rates between 2021 and 2022, except for the United States. Canada saw one of the largest percentage drops (-9.7 per cent) after South Korea, which experienced the steepest (-15.3 per cent). That country is in the midst of a demographic crisis. The South Korean population is shrinking; its fertility rate is 0.78 children per woman, the lowest in the world. Even France, which seemed to be an outlier in the West with higher-than-average birth rates, is experiencing a similar challenge. Earlier this month, French President Emmanuel Macron promised to increase parental leave pay to encourage the French to have more children, after birth rates plummeted to their lowest point since the end of the Second World War. How Canada's population continues to grow It’s a tale of two demographic shifts in Canada. The country is seeing record low birth rates, and historically high immigration. “We’ve relied increasingly upon immigration in maintaining population growth,” said Kerr. “That’s the logic behind much of the immigration policy from the federal government.” Canada’s population surpassed 40 million last year, growing at the fastest pace since the 1950s. But the record growth has been tied to a national housing crisis and increased pressure on the health care system. “Immigration certainly helps if you’re talking about an aging population. But if our birth rate continues this downward trajectory, our population will be aging at an accelerated pace.” Kerry says both Canadian-born adults and new Canadians are having fewer children. “Regardless of how fast our population grows, our family networks are getting smaller and smaller and this over the long term can be quite dramatic,” he added. “If you don’t have kids around, if you don’t have grandchildren, there are going to be consequences, because people rely upon family.”

Where is that coming from? Am I missing something? Capfriendly has them at $5,237,500 in both current day cap space and deadline cap space. That's with Chytil on LTIR. They don't seem to have any large cap hits coming off the books, what am I missing?

Got me there, I was exaggerating but probably not by much Manny was a stud

Dunno, I could see the Sens offering more than other teams regarding both cap and term tbh, he's exactly the sort of D they need. Sens can score, it's keeping the puck out of their net that's the issue, if they can sell him on his being a difference maker there it could happen.

Not me, the Canucks don't have a great track record with bald men the past few decades outside of maybe Sundin and Demitra

That's a smile?

Probably, but the Sens will likely be very interested in the offseason. I could potentially see him going there, he's stuck with Canadian teams thus far. Sens would only trade for him with an extension in place.