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I get that, but Elias is a position where can realistically achieve both. He's arguably a top 10 NHL forward in his 24-25 year-old season. He doesn't need to go to Columbus to get paid, he's going to get paid everywhere so why wouldn't he elect to sign somewhere he's got a better chance of winning? Pettersson's deal is going to likely be over 100M if it's long term, I don't see why he wouldn't take a little less to go somewhere he's got an actual chance of winning. I just see the odds of him signing a deal in Columbus being slim to none, and Columbus doesn't make such a deal without a guarantee he sticks around. Hell, most teams won't. If the Canucks are to trade Pettersson they'll have to negotiate with teams Pettersson is willing to extend with.

True that, Myers has looked much better overall this season

Not so sure Kuzmenko would work for the Rags, despite them having the cap space for him this season. That additional season could be more a hindrance than a help, both Schneider and Lindgren are due for raises as pending RFA D this offseason. They may have to replace Quick, they'll need to re-sign some of their bottom six. Chytil will also be back at some point, taking his cap space back. Monahan works better precisely because he's a pending UFA who can step into the Chytil spot. He's cheap too, which potentially leaves room for another addition (Kaako trade perhaps, or maybe he goes to Montreal for Monahan). Rangers have to be careful with the cap space they do have, I don't really see us as a good trade partner for them in a deal that doesn't involve Kaako.

New York is also in a position, similar to Carolina, in that they need to either shit or get off the pot at some point. They've been in that position for a couple years, which is why Miller to New York was actually a reasonable argument at one point. Panarin will be 33 in October, he's their offensive engine up front. Zibanejad will be 31 in April. Kreider will be 33 in April. Trocheck will be 31 in July. Laffy and Chytil have come along and shown they should be valuable to the Rags going forward, but Chytil is done for the season. Their D is more on the younger side, which helps them going forward. Shesterkin will be 29 in December and has one more year on his current deal, which features a bargain 5.6M cap hit. He's due for quite a raise. The Rangers simply don't have a broad window to contend, they should have just ante'd up for Miller.

Senators have interest in Tanev, he'd have to be willing to accept a trade there this season and be willing to extend there for it to happen though. He's exactly what Ottawa needs though, on the older side or not. He'd help bring their goals against down, which could be the difference between them making the playoffs and being a bottom feeder. Goaltending, coaching, and goals against have been the biggest reasons Ottawa's sunk to the basement. Though the Chabot injury certainly didn't help. https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/ottawa-senators/latest-news/report-calgary-flames-defenceman-chris-tanev-may-be-on-senators-radar

Maybe, but why would Pettersson sign long-term in Columbus if he isn't willing to do it in Vancouver? Pettersson doesn't just want to get paid, he wants to win, he won't be doing much of that in Columbus. Hard to see teams being willing to trade for Pettersson without an extension worked out beforehand.

Worse, baseball player

Speaking to the first two bolded bits, it's because teams usually have to give to get, most moves don't involve one team ripping off the other imo Kaako put up 40 points last season, his 21-22 year-old season, he's also got high pedigree, this is why he'd be appealing Rangers want to chase a cup and have limited trade chips on their NHL roster, that's why he's available They're looking for an upgrade, or a center which is why they're linked to Monahan, that doesn't necessarily mean they don't see him as holding value Possibly, he could likely be in a top 9 role next season if we move Garland out Size does matter, Garland is an engine on the third line this season which makes him less likely to be moved in-season, but I could very easily see him being moved in the offseason for cap reasons, Hoglander could step into his spot if this occurs Realistically that third line could see quite a bit of turnover anyway, Joshua and Blueger probably won't be back at bargain rates, there's a chance that only one of that trio is a Canuck next season

Aye, more than likely it just seems like Dube lied about his motivations Although there's actually a chance he wasn't lying if he knew what was coming down the pipeline, this will cast a shadow over any career Dube goes on to have (whether in hockey or otherwise), dude is being charged with a very serious crime and this is a high profile case now I could absolutely see Dube's mental health being shit nowadays, regardless as to whether he's guilty or not It's just unfortunate that the Flames organization got caught up in it, I applaud any sports franchise that supports the mental health of their players and as you've alluded to, they've been more than willing to do so

He was, and I get your point But it doesn't benefit the Flames at all to lie about it is the thing, and optics and PR are important nowadays Flames already have a looming retool/rebuild ahead of them, they don't need this kind of attention

It's a tricky one, Hoglander could very well be a Garland replacement sooner than later, but on the other hand a team usually has to give to get. I'm not keen on moving Hoglander, but Tochett also doesnt seem interested in giving him a chance at playing a larger role in the top 6. I'm fine keeping him, but if the Rangers want NHL level help and the Canucks are inquiring I could see Hoglander's name coming up. Trading Hoglander as opposed to Kuzmenko or our 1st means we still have those pieces to move, not that we'd give up a 1st for Kaako anyway. Kaakio's a pending RFA with a 2.1M cap hit, he shouldn't be due for much of a raise. 40 points last season, 23 on February 13th, 6'3". Could be tempting. Particularly if we can free up Kuzmenko or Garlands this season or in the offseason. And I think Kuzmenko is on outs. I'm open to moving Podz, he just hasn't done as much in the NHL though, which probably makes him less appealing to a team wanting NHL level help. I'd be down to move Kuzmenko to the Rags, they have the space now, but I question how they'd juggle Kuzmenko's cap hit next season when they've got RFA D in Schneider and Lindgren to extend this offseason.

Posted this yesterday but I'll post it again

Dunno, at the time they likely had couldn't have proven his leave was related to the investigation even if they'd had an inkling Tough to prove a guy's leave isn't related to mental health I'd give the Flames the benefit of the doubt here, they don't want egg on their face, having a player involved (a player they now don't have on the ice) is bad enough

I'd kick something around Kaako for Podz+ around but the Rangers probably want NHL level help It'd smart, but maybe something around Kaako and Hoglander? He's underwhelmed in New York, but it's unusual for a young guy who was drafted that high to be available, could be a good reclamation project If you're gonna gamble it may as well be on pedigree

Seems Dube pulled a fast one https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/team-statement-on-dillon-dube

I think that'll happen Myers takes a pay cut and sticks around as a 4-5D who can play top 4 of needed He's a known quantity, knows the systems and coaching staff, well liked in the room, has roots here, probs wants to stay on a competitive team, brings size and looks much better when surrounded by a quality D core Myers ticks a lot of boxes, we'd probs get him for less than other teams given how long he's been here too Myers at 2.5-4M with cap increases factored in is a lot better than Myers at 6

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Kaako for Monahan and a 3rd or 4th

Hard to say given this is a very high profile case, I'd be a little surprised by plea deals I don't think this story will go away, every bit of news just reignites things Hard to see the guys getting off with nothing though I think Hockey Canada's reckoning has just begun, there's a lot more public interest in the state of things now

You're not wrong, but a swift resolution wasn't ever all that likely