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By John Tavares

This is why I take issue with the idea that we have to somehow capitalize on this brief window before Boeser, Hughes, Pettersson, and Demko extensions get done. It's not as if we're simply going to stop trying to compete going forward because top guys are getting bigger dollars. Obviously it makes it a bit more challenging to fit pieces in, but that's why actually using first round picks, drafting, and developing prospects is so important. Every team around the league has to work around guys getting paid, we're not unique in that instance, having to pay players is the price of success regardless of whether you win a cup or not. If we have players worth paying fans should be thankful, there are many years over the past decade we were nearly capped out with questionable cap hits on the books. Larger deals on the books just means finding cheaper complimentary players has to be done, and it means players on ELC's or who are RFA's are all the more important. The Canucks still have quite a bit to prove before they consider mortgaging what's a top heavy prospect pool to somehow go "all-in". The Canucks are better served trying to build a longer competitive window imo, which can be done with a management group that makes savvy decisions regarding cap, term, drafting, and player acquisition.

Yeah, that's a tough one They could always put up statues of players outside the arena or something My bar for retirement is definitely higher, but there are several Canucks who could easily be put into the ring, a few probably play for us now in Boeser, Demko, and Miller (if the first two extend) Pettersson and Hughes are the only current Canucks I view as having a shot at jersey retirement

If Lou had stayed longer I'd agree, but his loyalties were a bit too shared for me Should be in the ring though, absolutely The other bit is he shares that number with McLean, who's a Canuck great in his own right, it's easier to just have them both in the ring I understand your argument for Bure, but the HHOF doesn't really impact my Canucks tinted lens when it comes to jersey retirement, in part because of his contributions in Florida helping him get in in the first place Ideally Bure and Naslund would have been ROH but I don't make these decisions

They've fumbled the ROH a bit, which isn't to say I take issue with anyone they've put in there thus far, it just seems like something that gathers dust when there are several players they could be putting up and honoring. The ROH was a unique idea, they should be utilizing it more. But yeah, the Nazzy bit was a weird one, I think very highly of him but I don't that retirement as necessary. I'm not gonna argue it isn't deserved, he ticks the boxes I look for (perhaps just not as much as I'd like). Bure was a strange one because he's largely been distant from the organization for ages. There are other franchises around the league who have great players who didn't end up getting retire too, I view him as a high ROH guy myself as well. Felt like his retirement was a bit of an Aquilini pet project. Part of my only having Smyl, Linden, and the twins in the rafters also boils down to my feeling we have too many retired numbers in the rafters for a franchise that's never won a championship.

Over the years I've argued that the Canucks standard for jersey retirement is too low for my liking, if I had my way we'd only have four numbers retired: Smyl, Linden, and the twins. There's an argument for Naslund but I was never on board with Bure, I've been around enough to learn about his impact on the franchise but I'm of the opinion that he lacked the longevity as a Canuck to end up in the rafters. Smyl was the first in the rafters and his jersey being in the rafters has to be considered within the context of the time. @Kevin Biestra spoke to his impact, he held most Canucks records at one point and was our all-time greatest Canuck when he retired. Smyl benefits from being the first in the rafters, in a way he set the standard for jersey retirement going forward. Linden went on to surpass him on a number of fronts, and was arguably the greatest Canuck when he retired as well. The twins went on the surpass Linden, doing things that no players had ever done as Canucks. The longevity of these four players combined with their community contributions, their contributions to the organizational culture (to this day), combined with what they did on the ice deservedly has them in the rafters. Nazzy comes up a bit short for me tbh, but if I had to pick between him and Bure I'd have him in the rafters. But there are legit arguments for Naslund. Bure was a dynamic talent who almost certainly contributed to the Canucks staying in Vancouver, but he was only here for seven seasons and some of those were cut short. Two of those seasons combined, the 94-95 and 95-96 seasons combine for 59 games played. He has the numbers and the point per game numbers, but for me he lacks to longevity of the others and that's the deciding factor for me.

I appreciate your contributions when it comes to Canucks that played in decades past, I'm too young to have actually watched any of them play My understanding of Smyl is that he was basically Linden before Linden was Linden, his importance to the franchise is sometimes understated When debates as to whether the Canucks have too many retired jerseys or not pop up he's one of the few I always emphasize as belonging in the rafters

For real tho, and they're paid so much less than athletes in other major NA sports leagues

Jesus

blink-182 has had more commercial success but Sum 41 is better live and has put out higher caliber music

A taste from the metal half of Sum 41's upcoming pop punk/metal album Helluva way for them to retire, bringing their career sounds full circle in a single album, you don't see many double albums nowadays

I had no idea, what a horrible thing to happen! Yet another successful player who made a pit stop in Vancouver

On the twelth day of Canuckmas, Canucks lore gave to me Mike Corrigan 1971-1972 Ron Stewart 1972 Barry Wilcox 1973 Dan Gloor 1974 Leon Rochefort 1975-1976 Jim Wiley 1977 Rob Flockhart 1978 Stan Smyl 1979-1991

Raymond, Ballard, and a 1st

McDavid is the Oilers personality equivalent of longtime former Calgary Flame Sean Monahan

The zipper descended

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