Coconuts

So, how do you really feel about the refs

Remember that long-ass Halloween shootout that had Ohlund potting the winner

The Fabbro folks keep asking for, gotten in the wrong way

Seattle had more experienced weapons up front and a more stable D imo, Anaheim has some solid vets still but as a team that's been near the bottom they're starting to see some of their top picks step in and contribute I expect they'll fall out if the mix at some point but it's an encouraging start for them as an organization

Aye Anaheim is surprising, moreso considering the start Zegras has had But they're getting great contributions from youth such as McTavish and Mintyukov If Zegras and Terry get going they may surprise many this season Ducks are flush with high end youth

Kings looking good Good start to the season for Byfield, maybe he's taking steps forward

He makes too much to be a bottom pairing D imo, and odds are he'll want a raise I question whether he'd actually be a top four guy here, size and tenacity or not, I'd need someone to sell me on his actual metrics

Kings up 2-0, hell yeah

It also gave both teams something they needed. NYI got a center for Barzal, the Canucks got a center prospect and a top four RD. Seems pretty even thus far. Beau isn't positive value, Raty is a prospect with potential but that's about it at this point. Maybe Raty turns into something but I'd be a little surprised if he amounted to a top six NHL forward.

Doesn't seem like it was that long ago he was playing for the Avs, time flies

And Raymond and a 1st

What about Ballard

Tochett and Kessel already have history together though, I don't see why this would be an issue He's supposedly been waiting for a team or two to clear space, I'd imagine he's been working out

He ticks three boxes Rutherford Tochett Being a former Penguin

He may not lead us to the promised land but he would lead us to a thrilling new era of Canucks hockey Blessed by the Thrill in all his iron-man, three time Stanley Cup Champion glory

More than likely @Elias Pettersson is right and there will simply never be a lasting peace in that region Too many factions, countries with hands in the pie, religions/faiths/ect involved, and so on Whatever will happen will happen, but it wouldn't shock me if this thread is still going in some way, shape, or form in two or three years Maybe that's a tad cynical but at the end of the day it's the average civilians who pay the highest price during conflicts such as this one

Any minute now..

I dunno, it's really hard to say as we still don't know how things will play out in Gaza or what Hamas will do. It's also tough to gauge how Israeli citizens will view things in a post-conflict setting, if we even get to one sooner than later. Propaganda will also likely be a factor. The government, which I've been pretty openly critical of, isn't representative of Israeli citizens or jews as a whole, what happens in Israel politically will heavily impact whatever comes next for Israel and the Palestinian people. What happens in the US will also likely impact what happens in Israel politically imo. Dunno, it seems this recent assault was years in the making wasn't it? Hard to ascertain what the longer term goals of Hamas's wealthy and likely non-present leadership are.

Depends on who you ask. But I'm personally of the opinion that after nearly a decade of futility the Canucks have to put their money where their mouths are and prove they're actually different over a longer term basis. If they want to be considered a playoff regular they need to actually make the playoffs two or three seasons in a row. If they want to be considered in the mix for a playoff spot closer to the playoffs they need to actually be jockeying for a spot in March. I'm not even going to seriously get into contention aspirations until I've seen this organization consistently make the playoffs. There have been some encouraging signs thus far but I can't emphasize enough how early in the season it still is, all it'd take is a significant injury or two to completely change how we view the current team. Let's see where we're at in February. One can recognize encouraging early signs while remaining pragmatic.

Worth considering in regard to any developments post-Israel/Hamas/whoever conflict is also how it will be politicized in the US. The US will back Israel period, they've shown this for decades, but how it will be politicized, what rhetoric occurs within the US political discourse, and what impact said rhetoric actually ends up having is anyone's guess. How a Republican US president approaches the scenario could be very different than how a Democrat president approaches the scenario. Who ends up being said president for which party will also play a role. The impact of the looming precedential race and the general US political discourse upon this scenario can't be overstated.

Perhaps, the Hamas assault has lead to rising tensions not only in the Gaza region but likely within the surrounding region as a whole. Anger, hate, and so on have likely exacerbated tensions that existed before the most recent assault though, as settler attacks on Palestinian civilians in the West Bank aren't new. If they're escalating that's a concerning development, though not really a surprising one. I'm not sure about the policy but I was able to find the following related to Biden and the US. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-rebuke-israel-west-bank-settlements-frustration-biden-palestinians-rcna76047 https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-750516 https://thehill.com/policy/international/4046213-us-warns-against-israeli-settlement-expansion-after-reports-of-new-west-bank-plans/ This was from a couple days ago https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/biden-pushes-mideast-leaders-to-consider-two-state-solution-after-israel-hamas-war-ends#:~:text=During his visit to the,held U.S. support for statehood.

Shares an Oilers record with Gretzky and Coffey Sam Gagner?

If anything 12x8 is reasonable

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/31/west-bank-violence-settler-crisis-gaza-israel-palestine/