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Maybe, maybe not, but I'm sticking to my long held stance of not liking giving big money and term that takes guys into their later 30's. I understand why Guentzel appeals to people, I just don't see it the same way. Maybe not, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. I do think we could land him, it just might mean the forward we bring in for Pettersson isn't as sexy an option. I'm not keen on Toffoli for similar reasons, I like him but I question his speed. I'd rather bring in a forward who skates better. I think Marsh will cost too much, but he'd be intriguing on a shorter term deal as a guy who can probably still produce. I like Stephenson best, I think he'd be a great playmaking center or winger for either the Pettersson or Miller line.

Probably Toronto, which is fine They traded for Tanev too but I won't be surprised if he hits UFA, I'd rather look for someone younger than Tanev on the right side though

Maybe, they'll have to jockey with every other team that wants D though too I like to think so, regardless of which other teams are after the D that will hit the market I think we'll have a good chance at landing some players We just had a very impressive season, I do think players will be intrigued if Vancouver offers fair deals, which I reckon we will

He would, Jersey seems poised to land him though I wouldn't be surprised if we end up going after the same players in Pesce, Roy, and Dillon

If he'd it his way he'd have landed Zadorov from Calgary too, we were the team who didn't need them to retain

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Allegedly

Has anyone tried telling him he can acquire players that didn't used to play for us

Yeah, there was an updated tweet

Ideally, yeah

Treliving and former Canucks, name a more iconic duo

Yeah, we got fucked by the league with the Luongo deal.

It'd be funny if they gave him a 5-7 year deal

But real talk, if Toronto's willing to do something silly with a 5-8 year deal to bring down the cap hit, go for it

I don't think he'll be back, and as much as I like him I'm fine with that tbh His not signing with a better team in Dallas is a good indicator that there's a solid chance he hits UFA imo The Treliving familiarity is a bit of a wildcard, particularly if they're willing to do something ridiculous with a contract

Good chance he still hits UFA imo, Toronto guy or not Dallas is a better team

I think so too, that's pretty good money for a guy who's never been able to stick as a top 4 regular on teams with a quality defense. He wasn't able to do it in Calgary, he wasn't able to do it in Colorado. Based on ATOI during his regular season stint as a Canuck, he didn't do it here either. Despite playing 54 games as a Canuck he only averaged 17:04, which places him behind Hughes, Hronek, Myers, Cole, and even Soucy. Even if it wasn't the rumoured 5M, they probably made him a fair offer based on his overall body of work, which spans multiple seasons, not based on a 13 game playoff stretch. https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/VAN/2024.html

Maybe, but we really don't know. There's a chance that could happen, absolutely, it's part of why I don't want Guentzel. I went round and around in circles on CDC with folks because I don't like handing out long term deals that take guys into their later 30's, I still don't like those deals. Which is why I'd rather opt for a quality second line talent and a top 4D on 4-5 year deals over Guentzel.

Seems to me like a lot of folks are just fine with management having a firm line, and that there are folks who are indeed disappointed. You're more than welcome to have an opinion that this might be a mistake, just as others can point out that he's historically been more of a 5D on quality D cores. I'm not usually happy with every move, and I don't want Guentzel. But I'm glad that management is actually willing to walk away when they feel what a player wants is too much.

And if management's track record regarding information is anything to go off of, it won't be. Doesn't change the fact that if he'd been willing to play ball and take a lesser amount that worked for the Canucks that he'd likely be signed right now. Joshua, Myers, and Blueger all took less to stay, Zadorov could have too. I get the angst about losing him, but it takes two to tango and Zadorov was party to negotiations. If he walks it's going to be because he chose to walk.