Jeremy Hronek

To San Jose -Kuzmenko (5.5) -Mikheyev (4.75) -Myers (6) =16.25 To Vancouver -Couture (8) -Duclair (3) -Granlund (5) =16 Pettersson-Miller-Boeser Duclair-Couture-Granlund Joshua-Bluegar-Garland Hoglander-Suter-Lafferty Hughes-Hronek Soucy-Zadorov Cole-Juulsen Friedman Demko DeSmith Personally speaking, I’m not sure if I make the above deal since it might leave us too thin on defense. Maybe just do Kuzmenko + Mikheyev for Couture + Duclair Pettersson-Miller-Boeser Duclair-Couture-Suter Joshua-Bluegar-Garland Hoglander-Aman-Lafferty PDG Hughes-Hronek Soucy-Myers Cole-Zadorov Juulsen Demko DeSmith [maybe Podkolzin gets called up and plays with Couture and Duclair while Suter replaces Aman on the 4th line]

A part of me suspects that a large part of Gaudreau’s poor play stems from guilt over leaving Calgary. I could be wrong though. Matt Tkachuk on the other hand could care less about having left Calgary imo (happy as hell to be in Florida and hasn’t looked back).

4-2 Canucks Miller

Nucks understandably looked gassed in the 3rd period. Still- goes without saying that this was a very successful road trip. 11 out of 14 points on a tough eastern road trip is a sign of an elite team.

Fond memories of the helmet heads at HF Canucks “bragging” about how the Minnesota Wild would be powerhouses now that Judd Bracket had signed on with them. Lots of mediocre prospects over there biting boners on the farm. Perhaps it’s safe to say that Judd Bracket wasn’t the second coming of Jesus Christ?

I’ll give you that much.

Anthony Beauvillier.

Good god Dan Cloutier sucked a lot of balls when we needed him the most.

In assessing this Vancouver Canucks team, the only real weakness I see is that this team is likely doomed if Quinn Hughes went down with injury for the long term. We don’t have that #2A/#3 calibre defenseman that could “step up” to the top pairing and still maintain that we have an elite top pairing even if one of Hughes/Hronek went down with injury. Now - here is what’s going to happen: Some people are going to respond to my post and say, “Soucy, Zadorov, Cole, or Myers would all do just fine playing alongside Hughes or Hronek……and to that, I would say, “Yes, those players are more than capable of playing with Hughes or Hronek and being decent………….,BUT, they wouldn’t be elite. They wouldn’t drive play or “tilt the ice” in our favor just as Hughes/Hronek are currently doing. Quinn Hughes is the one player that the Canucks cannot afford to lose to injury. Think about it. Mikheyev or Kuzmenko would easily be able to join “the lotto line” and keep the line fairly elite if one person got injured. Similarity, Suter could fill in anywhere on the Garland line if any of that trio got injured. Then, you have all of Hoglander, Podkolzin, and Raty that could fill in on all lines except for the first line in a supporting role. Even in net, the Canucks wouldn’t sink if we lost Demko since we still have DeSmith. Losing Quinn Hughes however, for an extended period of time, would single-handedly move us from being an elite calibre team to a middle-of-the-road calibre team since we don’t currently have a #2A/#3 calibre dman. Soucy, Myers, Cole, and Zadorov are all solid defenseman, but they are #4 calibre dmen at best. That’s one thing about that 2011 Canucks team. Losing any ONE player to injury wouldn’t have sank that team. In 2019/2020, everyone knew that losing Markstrom (before Demko truly became Demko) would sink us. Fast forward to 2024, and I now make this same argument with Quinn Hughes. Using Myers++ to trade for Chychrun would help alleviate that in my opinion. If you don’t want to pony up assets, for “Chych the bitch,” that’s understandable. I would then suggest taking a look at Chris Tanev however and seeing if Calgary would give him back to us for cheaper (although at this stage of his career, I’m not even sure if Tanev would be considered a strong #3). Remember how from 2011-2017, the media in Vancouver became obsessed with the Boston model and Boston’s sphincters? Now might be a good time to temporarily go back to that mindset. Boston are weak up front but are absolutely stacked on the back-end and there’s a reason for that).

Anyone feel a bit bad for Hodgson at this point? I think we all know how his attempted comeback is going to go.

Good finds. I suspect it’s more of a case of Jenner being trapped in a bad system with irresponsible players. Did he play with Laine much?

ErikssonEK would cost a helluva lot more than Kuzmenko and a 1st. There lies within the problem.

Auty Raty.

@AnthonyG Pretty much this. If I'm Alvin, I hang up the phone and text sphincter pics if Columbus' GM's asking price involves Willander, Lekkerimaki, or Podkolzin. 2024 1st + B level prospect + 2025 2nd + 2026 4th is more than reasonable to me, given the nature of a seller's market. The fact that we'd potentially have Jenner for multiple years without having to give up a Top 6 roster player would also be a huge advantage.

I think you'll be disappointed if you expect a 2024 1st to not be involved. Deadline deals are always a sellers market. The way I see it, if the Canucks could acquire Jenner without having to move any of Willander, Lekkerimaki, Podkolzin, or a current Top 6 forward, then I think we come out with a win here......especially when you consider Jenner's cap hit ($3.7 million), and the fact that he's signed multiple years.

The problem is that all of these guys are going to be expensive, whether it's Lindholm, Crouse, etc. In the case of Lindholm, not only would he be expensive, but we wouldn't be able to keep him beyond this season. A lot of these other guys would likely cost us one of Lekkerimaki, Kuzmenko, or Podkolzin. So, in the case of Boone Jenner, if it only costs us a 2024 1st, a middling prospect, and a 2nd and a 3rd, I don't think that would be too unreasonable given the market. Jenner is currently 30, and his contract will expire at age 33.......which I don't think is *that* bad. Jenner can help us on the PK and chip in some offence. Furthermore, Jenner's presence would allow Suter to move to the 4th line. It's also within reason that a 2nd line of Mikheyev-Jenner-Kuzmenko could possibly start 'clicking' and producing offence. Jenner would also give us some options just in case we split up the Lotto line. Pettersson-Miller-Boeser Mikheyev-Jenner-Kuzmenko Joshua-Bluegar-Garland Hoglander-Suter-Lafferty Aman Hughes-Hronek Soucy-Myers Cole-Zadorov Juulsen Demko DeSmith

I’m not entirely sure if I’d make that deal since you’d pretty much have to break up the Lotto line to maximize the acquisition. Why? Because - if Miller, Pettersson, and Boeser are all playing on the same line (with Joshua, Garland, and Bluegar on another), then Eriksson-Ek’s only linemate options would be Hoglander, Mikheyev, or Suter……which, while would be great in terms of utilizing Eriksson EK’s defensive skills, would likely not fairly maximize his offensive talents (ie for example, would you expect a line of Hoglander-ErikssonEK-Mikheyev to be a dangerous 2nd line scoring threat?). Minnesota are also already short at center depth and so I don’t see why they make this deal. Hence, I’d likely be more interested in Boone Jenner (the rumored deal). Jenner has a lower cap hit and his acquisition cost likely wouldn’t cost us Lekkerimaki or Willander.

I was actually looking at Jenner’s cap hit ($3.7 million + 3 more years), and his games played per season. It’s not as bad as I thought. Yes he has missed about 10 games in multiple seasons but it’s not an awful amount. I might have had a change of heart here. That is an excellent cap hit and Jenner would definitely fill a need. Hopefully, the rumored acquisition cost isn’t as high as we are making it out to be.

Basically this. I think this is why Alvin is interested in someone like Jordan Greenway instead.

Petey and Jack aren’t comparable since Jack has a sweetheart cap hit of 8 million that will be locked in for a long time. Petey, on the other hand, will likely have a 10.5-11 million dollar cap hit from next season onwards. NJ has Jack and Luke and will likely try and make a big push for Quinn when Quinn becomes a UFA. I have a better chance of dating Elton John than the Canucks do in landing Jack Hughes.

Very true but most of that team was assembled by Burke-Nonis. That’s not to say that Gillis didn’t play a key role (ie Torres, Malhottra, Lapierre, Hamhuis), but most of those guys were Burke-Nonis drafted and/or acquired. With our current team, all/most of our core players were drafted or traded for by Benning (Lotto line + Garland + Hoglander + Hughes + Myers + Demko + Podkolzin). My opinion is that both Gillis and Benning made some solid moves that were ultimately overshadowed by some concerning red flags (Benning with his pro scouting and signings / Gillis with his drafting and some questionable trades post 2011 SCF). But - to me, it’s like who cares? Neither Gillis nor Benning are relevant to Canucks hockey in 2024. About as relevant as my grandmother’s penis. Ultimately, the Canucks have an excellent team and an excellent opportunity in front of us. The first time since 2012. Makes more sense for the conversations to revolve around this year rather than the GM’s of yesterday-year.

is that Hunter Shinkaruk or Pavel Bure?

Laine would be interesting for sure but it would be quite risky. Potential high risk high reward? To CBJ: Kuzmenko + Myers To Van: Laine + Peeke Cap hits would work to be almost identical (I’m just doing some rough math).

Acquiring Guentzel would make zero sense if the long term plan is to keep the Lotto line together. Guentzel, or any other “high ticket” forward, won’t be able to produce much of their linemates are any combination of Hoglander, Mikheyev, or Suter.

Just say no to Boone “I broke a nail, gonna be out for 5 weeks” Jenner.