Jeremy Hronek

Agreed. As I admitted in my initial post, I'll also re-iterate that I can't see Dallas being too enthusiastic about making this deal. Just like he would for us, Marchment fills a significant need for Dallas in terms of toughness and holding opposing teams accountable for taking liberties with their "Star" players (pun?). Unless of course, Dallas has other players that can 'answer the bell' that I'm not thinking of right now. Garland has more offensive abilities and might be better suited to playing with Duchene and Seguin on that 3rd line instead of Marchment but who knows. Maybe we need to hire that Volcano Insurance guy from Family Guy to convince Dallas to make this trade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOx7h3eOZY

Oh he is definitely. But in terms of adding a much needed element to our line-up, he'd definitely fit the bill (and perhaps for that reason and that reason alone, he'd be worth his cap hit here). If the Canucks are destined to make the playoffs this year, no one is going to take liberties with Pettersson and Hughes with Marchment there.

Similar term (25/26 expiration) and money (Garland having a higher cap hit by a few hundred thousand). While Garland is the more versatile and offensively gifted player, Marchment is far tougher and would be considered a modern day enforcer (i.e. a good fighter but can still play the game reasonably well). To be perfectly honest, I see no reason why Dallas would make this move, but what can I say, I'm a biased fuck and have nothing better to do right now than make shitty trade ideas on a message board. Anyways, your thoughts?

We're just better off signing Ethan Bear for free rather than going after Colin Miller. Miller won't do much of anything for us in terms of moving the needle. He's not a "defensive defenseman" and he's not the type of guy that you can play with Hughes (i.e. being good enough to the point where you could move Hronek down to anchor a 2nd pairing). Hard pass on Colin Miller.

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Sens are .500 as of this writing......8 games in. Underachieving, sure, but they are hardly a mess like Calgary is at the moment. *Way* too early to be calling the Sens a mess. I don't like this proposal very much. Hoglander looks like he has taken the next step in his development and only looks like he's going to get better from here. While Suter has struggled offensively, his defensive game has looked fantastic. Perhaps his offensive game takes an uptake once Bluegar returns to the line-up? Might be worth seeing how it plays out right? So for me, I'm not a fan of this proposal.

If the Canucks offered Calgary a 4th for Tanev, their GM would fart in the receiver and then hang up.

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@Elias Pettersson - I like where your heart is at but I'm just not sure if I'm comfortable in moving any more 1st and/or prospects. Jim Benning bled a LOT of picks and prospects during his tenure here (some of it justified......other times, probably not), but kudos to Alvin for adding some more 'cookies to the cupboards' so to speak. Raty, Podkolzin, Lekkerimaki, Hirose, Silovs, etc., are all cooking down there and so let's continue to build on that. Add our 2024 1st to that cupboard, etc. So for me, that 1st trade is completely out of the question. Hoglander has also clearly taken a step this season and so I want to see how he develops. For your 2nd trade, I like the idea of bringing back Tanev but not at the expense of Hirose. If we want Tanev, make a UFA bid in the Summer to bring him back. Sign Ethan Bear for added depth later this year. p.s.______________As promising as the Canucks have looked so far, I'm not sure if they would be at the same level as Colorado, Vegas, Tampa Bay, etc. even with added help. Let the Canucks make the playoffs and win a round this year. That would be a significant step forward this season and something that the boys could be proud about. Next season, maybe 1-3 of Podkolzin, Raty, and Lekkerimaki step into the line-up on ELC's. Myers comes off the books and we make better use of that cap. The point I'm trying to make is slow and steady. Alvin has done some fantastic things during his short tenure here (after taking the reins from Jim Rutherford after the Bruce Boudreau fiasco). p.p.s.____________For the long term, my hope is that the Canucks can progressively take steps forward in the coming years to the point where our core players WANT to stay here long term. Pettersson, Hughes, Hronek, and Kuzmenko, complemented by guys like Hoglander, Raty, Willander, and Podkolzin if they reach their potential. At 30 years of age, maybe we can even sign Demko to a 5 year deal (although that would also be contingent on where Silovs is at in his development and how Demko's body is holding up). Miller's 'peak' probably has another 3 years left, but perhaps he can continue to be a spark plug of sorts for us in different roles as he ages. So for me, rather than 'busting a nut' and aiming for short term success, I'd like to see the Canucks get progressively better to the point where all of the aforementioned players above (with the possible exception of Demko) decide to stay here long term.......that would be the real reward in my opinion.

Garland for Anderson would be a really good deal for Vancouver (for the reasons you mentioned) but I can't see Montreal wanting to do this. The Canucks would likely have to add something here (prospect or a pick?) to make it worthwhile for Montreal.

Agreed with this post. Regarding the "Top 4 RHD" dream goes however, I don't think that's going to happen this season. The only pieces that could fetch you such a piece are -Pettersson -Hughes -Demko -Kuzmenko -Miller -Raping our farm (not literally.....just in case any Albertans in this thread start to get any ideas :-p) Obviously, the first three on that list are off the list, while moving Miller would create too big a hole at center. I pondered about Kuzmenko a few weeks back but he's also too valuable for this team. In theory, we *could* package Myers with a 1st and/or some of our top prospects but I'm not sure if I'd be a fan of this idea. I really love the idea of all or more of Raty, Podkolzin, and Lekkerimaki stepping into the line-up next season on ELC's and being impact players for us. You need these types of guys on ELC's if you truly want to make a difference. Conor Garland gets you Andrew Peeke's shit stained underpants (not even Peeke himself.....who is pretty mediocre btw). Boeser ain't getting you a Top 4 d-man either. I think our best bet for this season is to sign Ethan Bear later in the year.

Forgot about PDG. :facepalm:

Edit - Newly revised idea to an original idea: To Columbus: Andrei Kuzmenko + Anthony Beauvillier To Canucks: Patrik Laine This post might raise a few eyebrows given that Kuzmenko has outperformed Laine since getting into the league. Having said that, lets consider the following: 1. Laine hasn't really had a true "elite" center to play with since his Winnipeg days and even in Winnipeg, he was bullied off the Schiefele line. Remember what Laine's production was when he was playing with Schiefele? 2. Laine is 25 years old and is significantly younger than Kuzmenko. My ultimate point being this. IF you can bring Laine here and staple him to Pettersson, with Mikheyev being the defensive conscience on the other wing, then you might not only see a very formidable line but you'd likely see the return of peak Laine. Pettersson, a great playmaker, and a very good 200 foot player, playing with a guy that would be a clear upgrade over Kuzmenko if he gets back to his peak. More importantly however, Laine, given his age, could possibly become a long term core player for us if he liked it here. Laine-Pettersson-Mikheyev PDG-Miller-Boeser Suter-Bluegar-Garland Joshua-Lafferty-Hoglander Hughes-Hronek Cole-Myers Soucy-Bear Demko DeSmith ________________________________________________________________________________________ The Post below was my original post in this thread but I no longer agree with what was said below ________________________________________________________________________________________ Alright, I myself am not sure if this trade would work out or even be beneficial, but here goes: To Columbus: Conor Garland, Ilya Mikheyev, [1st or Podkolzin?] To Vancouver: Patrik Laine Kuzmenko-Pettersson-Laine PDG-Miller-Boeser Suter-Bluegar-Hoglander Beavillier-Studnicka-Lafferty Columbus gets more depth while the Canucks get a crack at possibly awaking a sleeping giant. Let's face facts - although he's been decent, Laine hasn't lived up to the hype since potting 44 goals in 2017/2018. A large part of this reason is that he was bullied by Scheifele and Wheeler in Winnipeg (and got demoted to a different line as a result), and also hasn't had the greatest of centres to play with in Columbus. In Vancouver, Laine wouldn't have that problem. His face would attached at the hip to Pettersson's crotch, and we'd get this guy his long awaited 50 goals. Laine, as good as he, has the potential to be a LOT better......like we saw in 2017/2018. Didn't the guy score 16 goals in one month one time? That's no ordinary feat. So assuming that the above trade is fair/realistic, I also think that Hoglander is ready to play higher in the line-up since the guy has clearly taken a leap this season. So - Hogs enters the top 6. All 3 of the above players have contracts that expire at or around the same time. Would Laine be able to thrive under a tight and defensively accountable Rick Tocchet system? I think the answer to that is "probably not" at first glance, but....c'mon....the guy would be playing with Pettersson.

I'll take this a step further. I believe that this is the best coaching staff that we've had since the Pat Quinn days.......maybe even better.

He recently watched Pretty Woman and was inspired by Richard Geere's chase of Julia Roberts.

I like the deal but I think it favours the Canucks too much and I can't see the Wings agreeing to that. Who knows........maybe I'm wrong?

Wait for Bluegar to get back + move Suter to wing. I think Suter is more "suited" to be a winger anyways (pun intended) Perhaps Suter was destined to be a (Red) wing? (pun intended)

This above post wins the thread in my opinion. Exactly how I feel about JP after having read this post.

I like this trade idea a lot but I can't see Nashville accepting this. Who knows though....... I do like the idea of Trenin playing on the 3rd line however and moving Suter to the wing.

Not not at all. He hasn't played since 2022. The announcement should have happened about 18 months ago.

No, not even close, lol. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. That 2011 team was one of the greatest teams ever assembled in NHL history (Top 75? Maybe Top 50). I'm very happy with our current Canucks team and the way they are playing, but they are probably closer to 2006-2007 or even 2001-2002 than they are from those 2008-2013 teams. 2014-2015 also comes to mind. We need to see a bigger sample size however. I will say one thing. I am of the belief that this coaching staff of Tocchet, Foote, and Gonchar is the best coaching staff that we've had since the Pat Quinn days. This team's aggression on the PK, gap control, and tremendous attention to detail is absolutely night and day from last season.

I think 6.5 x 5 for Pesce *might* work but I'm also sure that more competitive teams in the Eastern Conference would be likely to match that offer as well. Pesce is a nice pipe dream but I just can't see it happening. Would be happy to be proven wrong however.

Honestly, with the way the Canucks are going right now, I'd just keep things as is and see how things play out.

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I can't see McDavid being traded anytime soon, but I can definitely see him leaving when he becomes a UFA. As far as fantasy trade proposals go, I could see Buffalo potentially being a good fit. Dylan Cozens, Owen Power, and a 1st round pick would be starting points.