Jeremy Hronek

3 minutes ago, Nuckin Kingsly said:

 

Petey will need to step it up for sure, but I think we all know he certainly has that in him!

I hope you're right.  We saw it for the first 10 games of this season, and at certain moments during the season after that, but he's going to need to work on his consistency.  

2 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Except Matthews will be over $13m next year, and McDavid will be way higher soon.  

 

Petey is a solid $1m behind Mackinnon.  

 

The only guy he needs to really play up to is Pastrnak.

MacKinnon is the clear cut #1 or #1A player on his team alongside Makar.  You can play MacKinnon with pretty much anyone and his line is a threat almost every single time.  MacKinnon, as of this writing, has surpassed 100 points. The guy us a clear cut Franchise superstar with a Cup to his name.

I love Petey, and we have seen flashes of franchise potential (i.e. first 10 games of this season + 2nd half of 21/22 season, etc.), but there's too many stretches where he's been non-existent.  He has one goal in his last 10 games right now.  He's the 4th best player on the Canucks right now.  

With respect, Petey is a lot more than $1m behind Mackinnon at current imo.  

I like Petey and see potential, but he'll need to step up if he wants to earn his new Franchise level contract.  

2 minutes ago, Nuckin Kingsly said:

He left money on the table tho, he is a center that has been in the selke conversation the last couple years. The cap is going up and he could have gotten more. So that’s what makes it a discount. Yes he has been a different player the last couple months, but he’s also playing with mediocre wingers

 

i agree he is the 4th best Canuck at the moment. It’s not a huge discount, but it is one, and I think fans should be happy to See it. 
 

He will become the first Swedish born player ever to record back to back 100 point seasons if he gets there this year and is only 25. 

You might be right but here's how I'm seeing things right now:

Along with Pettersson, comparable cap hits now include MacKinnon, McDavid, Panarin, Matthews, and Pastrnak.

I love Pettersson, but can we honestly say that as of this writing, Petey belongs in that same weight class?   I'm not so sure.

Petey is going to need to step up.  

16 hours ago, Dom said:

What do you suggest then bud? Cole-Myers? LOL

Earlier in the season, I would have suggested

Soucy-Hronek as a 2nd pairing, and Hughes + (an acquired #2A/#3 calibre d-man) as a top pairing.......but that ship seems to have sailed.  

3 hours ago, AngryGoose said:

He has a M-NTC (submits 12 team no trade list).  Coming off an ACL injury.  Playing not great.  Gets paid 5.3ish million in actual dollars next year.  

 

I hope he can bounce back but I dont think the Canucks have the luxury of waiting.  If he can be moved at all-where?

 

He's not untradable if you're willing to take on a bad contract (i.e. Logan Couture, Huberdeau, etc.)

5 hours ago, GrammaInTheTub said:

Oh great, so Kyle Turris is our new Monica Lewinsky.  

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

If Lekkerimäki shows up in Vancouver then 100% I am playing him with Petey. 
 

Pettersson    Lindholm   Lekkerimäki

Mikheyev      Miller         Boeser 

Joshua          Blueger     Garland 

Höglander     Suter         Lafferty 

 

All of a sudden everyone is where they should be. I’d also try Mikheyev with Miller. He doesn’t need to score. Just play solid defence and retrieve pucks. 

That could work, but Petey and JL being on the same line together during playoff hockey might be a bit concerning.  

Lots of skill on that line, but JL is about the same size as Taylor Swift while "bowling pin Petey" might need someone bigger than Lindholm to help dig out pucks.  

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I’d definitely try that out. Joshua coming back will give a huge boost to the 3rd line. 
 

Our “secret” weapon is still in play though. Jonathan Lekkerimäki. He could be the weapon we need in the playoffs. 

Agreed.  In that scenario, I’d still reunite the Lotto line but play Lekkerimaki with Lindholm.  

10 hours ago, Devron said:

But Lindholm does all the little things right

#LittleThingsLindholm

5 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

The 3rd line hasn't been the same since Joshua was injured.  That's the main problem right now.  Kuzmenko had no chemistry with Petey, so Lindholm isn't making it worse.  Hoglander was taken off the 4th line, so that line isn't going right now either.

 

So, we really only have one line going right now.  This is the issue.  If we get Joshua back and move Hoglander back to the 4th line, then we'd be in the exact situation as before Kuzmenko was traded.  

Pettersson-Miller-Boeser (Sc1)

Mikheyev-Lindholm-Suter (shut down)

PDG-Bluegar-Garland (Sc2)

Hoglander-Aman-Lafferty (4th)

Thats what I’d do right now

28 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Auston Matthews isn't a play driver.  He gets paid to score goals.  He has 25 assists.  Petey has 46 assists.  So they aren't even close in terms of play driving.

 

Yes, we did have a problem.  The problem was that Kuzmenko doesn't know how to play defense.  And it looks like Calgary has also figured that out.  So, Conroy isn't as smart as some people think.  Kuzmenko won't be easy to move next year, they may not get much for him.  And our 1st round pick will be a very low first.  Hunter B may not even play in the NHL, and if he does he may be Tyson Barrie 2.0.

 

In terms of Lindholm, he may not be a 40 goal scorer any longer, but he is elite defensively.  He can easily be our 3C long term.  He's not going to get $8 million if he puts up 50 points this year.  $6 million would be the maximum I think.  

 

As for chemistry, I don't think that is the problem.  The problem right now is we are tired and worn out and that 9 game home stand is looking real good right now. Also, missing Joshua is bigger than some people think.  Our 3rd line is not the same without him.  He is more important than Garland.

Agree with you on Matthews but I think most people would agree that Matthews is a class above Pettersson.  
 

My point with Kuzmenko is that the Canucks were winning games even with Kuzmenko shitting it up on the 2nd line.  Lotto Line and Garland gave us all of the primary and secondary scoring that we needed.  My ultimate point is that we should go back to that instead of trying to over-cater to Lindholm.  Have Lindholm form a super shut down line with Mikheyev and Suter, and re-unite the Lotto line.

Agree with you on Joshua.  Try PDG on that line while he’s out instead of Bains.  

Pettersson for Horvat++

1 hour ago, Rypien-Punch said:

To NYR:  Elias Pettersson

 

To Vancouver: LW/RW - Alexis LaFreniere, RD Braden Schnieder, RW Matt Rempe, 2024 1st

 

To Pittsburg: 2024 1st, Myers 

To Van: Lars Eller 

 

 

Lafranier Miller Boeser

Suter Lindholm Mikheyev

Joshua Eller Garland

Rempe Blueger Lafferty 

 

Hughes Hronek

Cole Schnieder

Zedorov Juulsen 

 

 

 

Does it make sense for a Top 5 team in the NHL to make so many trades before the playoffs (taking into account all of the previous trades that we've made this season).  

What type of impact would this have in the locker room?  Team Chemistry.  

Move Petey if you must be save that shit for the off-season.  

Also, how many 1st rounders in life are we expected to give up?

3 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

4-5-1 in last 10.

 

Weve only got two less points than some top teams in this apparently disastrous stretch. 

Hopefully, we turn it around.  
 

1. Stop making trades and creating a volatile environment for the players.

2. Re-unite the Lotto Line

3. Put PDG with Bluegar/Garland since he’s somewhat stylistically similar to Joshua.

4. Make Mikheyev-Lindholm-Suter an elite shut down line (focusing primarily on defense) that can take on tough match ups and free up more offensive deployment for the Lotto Line.

1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

Who’s Daniel Sedin and who’s Duncan Keith this time around?

Probably Pettersson except I don’t think he needs a modern day Duncan Keith.  Anytime someone even nudges Petey, he falls down like a bowling pin.  
 

Seriously - Pettersson is a very very very good hockey player, but it will be a mistake if we pay him 12 million.  

6 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Top Western teams in the last 10 games:

 

Stars - 4-3-3

Avalanche - 5-4-1

Knights - 4-5-1

Oilers - 5-4-1

 

See the trend? 
 

This happens to teams down the stretch. You’ve got hungry teams fighting for wild card spots coming in every night. It’s hard to get up for every game this time of year.

Canucks = 1-5-1 in the last seven.  Slice it however you want but we’ve consumed a lot of different dna lately.

2 hours ago, GothamGhost said:

Gross

#1 seed Canucks might face off against a #8 LA Kings team consisting of Kopitar and Doughty in the first round.  Deja vu?
 

2 hours ago, spook007 said:

Would that be 100+ point 'passenger Petey'?

How the hell does anyone make 100+ points being a passenger?

And before you speak too highly of Bo, there were pages after pages written about 'soft' Bo, who didn't get the boys going. If he did, he would still be here...

I hear you about Petey and you’re right…..statistics wise, he has everything.  His point totals + the advanced stats do paint a pretty good picture of Petey.

Now having said that - let me ask you this:  Ignoring the stats and the underlying numbers, what does the eye test say to you?  
 

In your opinion, Does Pettersson scare opponents in the manner that 94 Bure, 96 Mogilny, 03 Bertuzzi, or 2011 twins did?  Take away the first 10 games of this season (which I will admit was incredible), and how has Petey *really* looked this year?  

12 minutes ago, IBatch said:

 Biggest difference this year, teams are chasing us.    The ones below will all be high intensity.    Bruce bump, teams did start taking us seriously.   Beating COL...their fans that sneak in and end up playing us in the first round, rightly so.   Oh so close. 

 

Last year ... easy schedule, but you're right, we did play better, and with an AHL loaded defense. 

 

Can't break up Miller and Brock.   Adding EP to their line to spice things up, that's fine once Joshua is back.   Create a second line with Lindholm, Mikheyev maybe, we'll just call it our third line.  

 

That said, if you're going to blender, this could be an experiment worth trying.     The blender is on full right now, messing with Brock and Miller isn't something i'd like to see. 

In that case, I'd just re-unite the Lotto line.  Put PDG with Bluegar/Garland for the physical presence, and make Mikheyev-Lindholm-Suter a super shut down line.  

3 hours ago, GothamGhost said:

Bigger, heavier team. 

 

There Goalie played better than our Goalie. 

 

 

This semen definitely smells familiar.

Smells like April 2012 all over again.  

Just now, N4ZZY said:

 

Right. But reports were that he was asking for more than what management wanted to offer. 

 

Actually, Allvin and Rutherford to me seems like they "bully" their way. It feels like that with Petey negotiations, and it certainly felt like that with Bo. I still believe that Horvat should be a Canuck today. But I wonder if Horvat and some players didn't gel well with Miller. JT seems like a guy most don't seem to get along with in the room. Just speculation and guesses on my part, though. 

 

 

I think the Miller/Horvat beef was specularly over-blown.  

From what I understand, management offered Horvat Jean Gabriel Pageau type money, lol.   

Horvat is and was definitely worth 7-8 million in my opinion.   

Even if overpaid, who would you rather have?   Horvat at $8 million or "passenger Petey" at $12 mill?