eeeeeeeeergh

5 minutes ago, RomanPer said:

And just to add a little colour to the whole “stone throwing is not serious” argument…

That was a massive slab thrown off a rooftop, not a pebble slung by a child

nice try though. 

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Yes I agree with you.

I have all the time in the world for EP and people like him, hes digested every word and all his replies have shown that hes listening, even when I flew off the handle and got too emotional

 its just hard to really fathom until one has seen it firsthand. im genuinely heartened though by some things these past couple days- like that UN resolution calling for a ceasefire. Even though it didnt pass (US veto), the rest of the world was trying to do the right thing. 

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

 

EPs not justifying it, hes just trying to find the practical solution that results in 0 loss of life - which obviously is not to throw stones. 

However, the argument im making has nothing to do with that - its that decades of being treated like "human animals" eventually takes its toll and makes you less than rational, and I'm putting the responsibility on the country treating you like a "human animal". 

18 minutes ago, moosehead said:

 

There is a special place in hell for any psychopath that could shoot a child.   Eternal life in hell.

 

Hopefully the person that did this and is charged with first degree murder / death penalty in this case. al

Same penalty for the Hamas terrorists that the same thing. 

The soldiers that executed the journalist didn’t get charged or disciplined 

just a little “whoopsie daisy” and they were on their way 

6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Good luck getting a soldier in the middle of a war charged with murder.  Maybe the parents can tell their kids to stay at home and watch the Simpsons versus trying to intimidate armed Israeli soldiers...

this is also pretty dangerous logic because it could be used to say stuff like: “if you don’t wanna be the victim of a terrorist attack, don’t go move into a village that was stolen from other people” aka Haifa, Jaffa, Jerusalem 

Both would be fairly equivalent victim blaming I think 

13 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

I hate to say this, but what kids parents would let their kids run up to fully armed soldiers and have them throw stones at them?  Does this sound normal to you?  Especially when they are in the middle of a war.  I'm not trying to justify these soldiers firing rounds back, but these kids shouldn't be anywhere near these soldiers and it is the parents fault for having them roam the streets like that and act like idiots...

Many of these kids don’t have parents, others are caregiving & working by the time they turn 10-11 years old to put food on the table. Remember we’re talking about a place with destitute poverty. 
 

also remember these kids are angry because they’ve watched Israeli soldiers kill their friends, or evicted their friends from their homes to make way for settlers. These kids are taking out their anger with stones, not knives and “Molotov cocktails” like Roman says. Instead of understanding that it created the hotbed of anger, Israel executes these kids in cold blood, and the soldiers don’t face charges. Instead the idea of using rubber bullets against these kids is called “nonsense” by the IDF spokesman. 
 

4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Good luck getting a soldier in the middle of a war charged with murder.  Maybe the parents can tell their kids to stay at home and watch the Simpsons versus trying to intimidate armed Israeli soldiers...

Kids throwing stones have been getting executed in cold blood by IDF soldiers well before October 7. 

2 hours ago, Alflives said:

Exactly! There is evil everywhere, but the vast majority of us common folk just want a peaceful life. Bibi seems evil. Trump for sure. The Hamas terrorists absolutely. Common folk. Definitely not. We common folk are pretty much the same. 

this is right on the money

- common people in palestine just want to live in peace, raise their kids, and put food on the table

- common people in israel want exactly the same (people born in israel are NOT guilty of what their parents or grandparents did to the palestinians)

- common people everywhere else just wanna cheer for their favorite hockey team and shit on the oilers

every solution needs to start from these core principles, and then consider the very real grievances that everyone involved has

28 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

 

Da Nucks .... by 402 to nothing

Petterson with 34 hattricks

Miller with 27 Fights while eating chicken wings

Demko 8 shoutouts playing blindfolded

Da ...... Nucks

 

Sorry didn't mean to spam. Thought this was GDT

 

 

While I'm here

4-2 Nucks

Miller GWG

look the question is not whether we win the stanley cup its how many times

im thinking minimum 7peat, or even an 8peat

2 hours ago, Boudrias said:

Both Meyers and Juulson were caught pinching against Philly. Meyers resorted to throwing pucks to opposing players and was being beaten to the outside. Trading Garland for RD help can't happen soon enough. I am sure Meyers would be gone as well if there was a deal to be had.

 

As a side note OEL is playing 25 minutes of TOI so far this year and is a + player. Go figure? Makes me worry about what Rathbone will do. All that aside RT and coaches seem to have a good grasp on what has to develop.

OEL's rejuvenation was kinda inevitable i think - @AnthonyG got flamed hard for posting very detailed analytics showing that Myers was the problem on the OEL-Myers pair

we need another top-4 RD yet again

14 hours ago, Alflives said:

Yup. Juulsson is bad. Myers is bad too. We have Hronek who is fabulous. We need another right shot D man who is really good and can play 20 minutes. Then Soucy and McWard can be our 5/6. 

Myers is fine on our 3rd pair. We need Bear to come back and play with Hughes, and Hronek to run the 2nd pair. bear was very good with hughes. 

Hughes-Bear

Cole-Hronek

Soucy-Myers

thats a solid D

Still think if Israel wants the moral high ground and to destroy Hamas from within Gaza, all they need to do is come out and say that upon arrest of Hamas senior leadership, Israel is prepared to negotiate an immediate reversal of settlement building in the West Bank, and open to discussing solutions for refugees living In Gaza 

4 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

Where did you get that he's in anyway connected to government?

Multiple sources confirming he's on Netanyahu's digital team, including his own website

https://www.hnaftali.com/

"Hananya has been working for Prime Minister Netanyahu in his digital team for the past 5 years."

https://www.jns.org/the-rise-of-hananya-naftali-social-media-star-and-pro-israel-influencer/

Employed by Netanyahu

Theres a video I saw on X as well from Hananya earlier this year confirming it, ill try to find it for you

@Playoff Beered

21 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

The irony after you just saying "I legit cant believe theres people eating up the IDF propaganda" an hour ago.

Sure i guess, but Hananya Naftali who is literally on Netanyahu's staff reported it as an IDF attack, so you'll forgive me for jumping the gun on the second source

1 minute ago, UnkNuk said:

This may be of limited interest to anyone but me but I was struck by the name of the hospital:  the Al-Ahli BAPTIST Hospital.

 

Why "Baptist" I thought.  And I googled and found this:

 

"The Gaza hospital where at least 500 people died in an Oct. 17 blast once was managed by Southern Baptist Convention missionaries.

 

Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital has been in operation since 1882 and was founded by the Church Mission Society of the Church of England. From 1954 to 1982, it was managed by missionaries affiliated with the SBC Foreign Mission Board, now known as the International Mission Board. Since 1980, the hospital has been run by the Episcopal Church."

 

https://baptistnews.com/article/gaza-hospital-hit-by-airstrike-was-run-by-baptists-for-three-decades/

 

 

theres always been a large christian population in palestine

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/27/israel-behind-christian-exodus-from-palestine

8 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

They're not angels, but calling them no better than Hamas is overkill.  The Israeli leadership needs to stand crime for war crimes.  Hamas' leadership simply needs to be exterminated like the vermin they are.

they executed a journalist shooting her in the head, denied it for a year, then after UN and US investigations confirmed it, finally admitted it, no soldiers were charged. 

they went village by village massacring civilians in 1948 to remove them from their homes (documented and a matter of historical records, they dont deny this)

to this day they evict palestinians from their homes in the west bank and replace them with jewish settlers, effectively re-occupying that territory, because now they're forced to deploy the IDF to "protect" the settlers

no better than hamas

3 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

If you believe that is the official account then your a moron.

I deleted my post in about 30 seconds after looking at the email address attached to the fb page, but hello to you too

1 minute ago, Ilunga said:

 

You have to stop with this no one is paying attention stuff brother.

I have been paying attention to this conflict all my adult life.

I have brought up most of the things you have brought up in a thread on the old board.

 

As I stated, while I am an Australian, I have ties to this conflict. 

 

Many others have also had concerns for the plight of the Palestinians for decades.

i need to be more precise with my words, people were definitely paying attention

but theres a difference between the attention then, vs now

probably 5-10% of people then

80-90% now

the horror of the Hamas terrorist attack on oct 7 has brought this front and center in a way that it hasn't been since the 40s and 50s. 

4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

Neither account is legit source.  One is an Israeli journalist and the other is an account inside Gaza.  Neither account represents the official side of the parties...

Deleting my reply - "official IDF arabic page" is likely a fake page too

My prediction

Nucks 402, TB: zip

"Israel wouldn't lie about something like this, its a civilized liberal democracy!"

Yeah? They lied about killing Shireen Abu Akleh (Palestinian journalist) and a year later admitted it, once the outrage had passed

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/11/shireen-abu-akleh-israeli-forces-kill-al-jazeera-journalist

Just now, Guntrix said:

There’s clearly zero neutrality in this thread.

 

Posters are quick to blame Hamas for attacks but are hesitant to blame Israel for anything. It’s embarrassing. 

"An airstrike in Deir al Balah reduced a house to rubble, killing a man and 11 women and children inside and in a neighboring house, some of whom had evacuated from Gaza City. Witnesses said there was no warning before the strike."

"Shelling from Israeli tanks hit a U.N. school in central Gaza where 4,000 Palestinians had taken refuge, killing six people and wounding dozens, the United Nations Palestinian refugee agency said. At least 24 U.N. installations have been hit the past week, killing at least 14 members of the agency’s staff."

Fucking monsters absolutely no better than Hamas. 

1 minute ago, Guntrix said:

Idk what shocks me more: Israel having the gall to bomb a hospital full of children or posters here posting fake news to dismiss it.

 

 

I legit cant believe theres people eating up the IDF propaganda

1. They took responsibility for it, then deleted the tweet

2. They had issued an evacuation order for the hospital

3. PIJ rockets are miserable wretched explosives without anywhere near the payload to level a massive hospital 

This was a fucking Israeli air strike, ofc they're walking it back now that they've seen the reaction, but this is not the first time the IDF has bombed a hospital, school, or other civilian target. It happened in 2014 too, just that nobody was paying attention in 2014. 

7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

So who’s social media account is correct?

 

 

that @gaza_report account is most definitely not a "gaza" account lol

its IDF propaganda, scroll through some of the tweets. They have dozens of those accounts set up. 

Observe: