[PGT] Canucks vs Sharks - Nov 20, 2023

[Alflives]

12 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Tochett appears to be shaking things up a little, some shifts with Miller outside of PP, trying to get him going.  Pretty sure he's got something sore.   
 

It's pretty great that we don't have to depend on just a couple guys right now.    If Miller cools down, EP could heat up.   When they are all on, we seem to be able to beat anyone.  

 

Nice thing this year is we haven't blown big leads, and we can win low scoring games as well as blow the doors off.   Our worst stretch of hockey so far since the TO game, with an emotional come from behind NYI game.    Even IF thats how things go for the remainder of the season, we still get in.    Unlikely we have our best roster from now until the end of the season too.    Allvin needs to be on the phones, at the very least signing Bear.    Personally think this team isn't missing much.   A Zadarov, Bear  and a Sutter (prime not injured - but a player who excels as a 3C and can move up when needed).  

IMHAO our core: Goalie, top two D, top two centres, scoring winger is as good (if not better than) any team’s core. Allvin and company are still building out the supporting cast. 

[grumpyone]

-if not for Blackwood this would have been another blow-out.

- Hoglander gets a 5 min match penalty for being stronger/ more physical than Lafluff?

-the sharks DID play much better than last time, but we DID play a lot of the game in their end where it looked like we were on a power play, but weren't .

- I like the matte black helmets, but I wonder how much better they would look if they were teamed up with matte black unis( still with the skate logo)

[grumpyone]

7 hours ago, -dlc- said:

I'm going to the Ducks game next week, can hardly wait!

 

I'm gonna see if Harry and Meghan need cowbells.

they probably already have some..........from his mother in law ( what a cow)

[Rekker]

6 hours ago, theochar said:

 

 

Yes me too. Not surprising really

Lol. New York Post = National Enquirer.

[grumpyone]

7 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said:

This is just nasty,..

 

not sure how THIS isn't intent to injure.

[HKSR]

5 hours ago, hockeyfan-observer said:

Tougher game but I did expect this given the very poor outing by the Sharks the last time.   Midway through, I was a bit worried about Blackwood possibly stealing this one - especially after the SJ goal that was eventually disallowed.  - so good on our captain H to eventually take charge and see this through.

 

Wednesday's match against the  Avs will be on another level though - especially since they lost in the last minute tonight. Up there with Dallas, the Avs have quite a formidable lineup with depth scoring and one of the more mobile Ds in hockey.

 

Will be a very good test early in the season for the Nucks.  Don't even mind if the Canucks try to slow it down a bit and get a boring a 1-0 victory - as the late Al Davis says

 

Just Win, Baby!

 

5 hours ago, Kragar said:

Avs have been quite mediocre lately, 5-5 in their last 10.  No idea if schedule or injuries have any part to play in all that.  Just nice to see.

 

Hope our boys are rested enough after last week to put it to them and win, and win well.

Yeah, but you can see Makar pushing hard to try and catch Hughes.  He's only 3 points behind having played 2 games less.

[stawns]

13 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

This is where patience is the better road to travel. A lot of teams (Toronto is a good example) keep trading firsts and making moves, trying to find "the missing piece".

Look where Toronto is. Spinning it's wheels. In worse cap situation than ever. With no way they are going to sign Nylander, unless he decides not to get a raise, or  unless they make some moves. With 2 firsts in 3 years and no second round picks.

 

Now is not the time to fall into the trap of going "all in" .

Exactly right.

[LaBamba]

6 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 

Rick Tocchet doesn’t give a Fuck who you are. 

[Goal_thecup]

7 hours ago, theochar said:

they are entitled pricks.

 

Thank you.

[Bob Long]

44 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

This is where patience is the better road to travel. A lot of teams (Toronto is a good example) keep trading firsts and making moves, trying to find "the missing piece".

Look where Toronto is. Spinning it's wheels. In worse cap situation than ever. With no way they are going to sign Nylander, unless he decides not to get a raise, or  unless they make some moves. With 2 firsts in 3 years and no second round picks.

 

Now is not the time to fall into the trap of going "all in" .

 

We are already pretty much there tho. The commitment to JT over Bo, getting Hronek, the d additions pretty much is this teams all in.

 

We need some better support players now. 

[conquestofbaguettes]

1 minute ago, Bob Long said:

 

We are already pretty much there tho. The commitment to JT over Bo, getting Hronek, the d additions pretty much is this teams all in.

 

We need some better support players now. 

 

Supporting cast, depth, prospect pool.

 

This regime has a far easier job than the last one. That's for fucking sure.

[stawns]

6 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

We are already pretty much there tho. The commitment to JT over Bo, getting Hronek, the d additions pretty much is this teams all in.

 

We need some better support players now. 

 

His point was to be patient and don't go chasing some mythical deal that will bring it all together and deplete the depth of the organization the way Edm and TO do.

 

He's right, imo

 

 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, conquestofbaguettes said:

 

Supporting cast, depth, prospect pool.

 

This regime has a far easier job than the last one. That's for fucking sure.

Got to disagree fellow Fan. Gillis GMed during our best era. He went to ownership with a plan to rebuild. Owner said no and hired Benning. Then the dark years came. New management has greatly changed our roster in just their two years. And got a coaching staff that knows how to win. Benning bragged about his great draft prowess. He left the cupboards bare, and that was during a time when he should have been filling them up. Gillis used picks to get a team close to the Cup a real chance to win. That is what teams that are close do. Go for it when the winning window is open. Benning went for it when our window was shut. 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

His point was to be patient and don't go chasing some mythical deal that will bring it all together and deplete the depth of the organization the way Edm and TO do.

 

He's right, imo

 

 

Those two clubs don’t have Demko. And they don’t have Hughes. 

[stawns]

I think we can all (well most of us) agree that they play better in the black skate 

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, stawns said:

I think we can all (well most of us) agree that they play better in the black skate 

Teams look bigger and tougher in black. 

[Inkidu]

3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Teams look bigger and tougher in black. 

 

I thought black was "slimming."

[CanucksJay]

9 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said:

@Darius

 

 

I agree. It's crazy to say but he's on that track. And on track to be a first ballot HHOFer if he isn't already at 24. It's nuts.

 

Im just a tad too young for Bure but I've never seen anything like Hughes before in a Canucks jersey.

 

Easily my fav Canuck of all time. Such a treat to watch, and just reminding myself he plays for us brings me joy.

 

I never imagined Quinn could get to this level. To think he thinks he can get even better is unfathomable. 

I would have been ecstatic if he was Lidstrom light but Bobby? Seriously. Bobby???  That's the comparable? 

[PhillipBlunt]

50 minutes ago, LaBamba said:

Rick Tocchet doesn’t give a Fuck who you are. 

Nor should he. Especially that wankerous prince. 

[conquestofbaguettes]

14 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Got to disagree fellow Fan. Gillis GMed during our best era. He went to ownership with a plan to rebuild. Owner said no and hired Benning. Then the dark years came. New management has greatly changed our roster in just their two years. And got a coaching staff that knows how to win. Benning bragged about his great draft prowess. He left the cupboards bare, and that was during a time when he should have been filling them up. Gillis used picks to get a team close to the Cup a real chance to win. That is what teams that are close do. Go for it when the winning window is open. Benning went for it when our window was shut. 

 

It's harder to draft core superstars,  rebuild a whole team from the ground up (especially with the mandate of staying competitive for the duration) than it is to take a core of young superstars to the next level. Acquiring supporting pieces, depth, and developing a prospect pool is far far easier task. That part actually sounds like fun.

 

And much like Burke and Nonis with Gillis getting all the credit, the same will be true for Benning with Allvin and Rutherford. Majority of the heavy lifting was done before they even arrived... and in many different aspects, not just team building.

 

It's easy for a coach to look good with an all-star goalie. Just as it's easy for a GM to look good if they inherent an all-star core to work with.

[Bob Long]

33 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Those two clubs don’t have Demko. And they don’t have Hughes. 

 

And we are not as top heavy on salary. Right now we are middle heavy, we need to get rid of our spare tire gut of overpaid middle 6.

[Alflives]

11 minutes ago, conquestofbaguettes said:

 

It's harder to draft core superstars,  rebuild a whole team from the ground up (especially with the mandate of staying competitive for the duration) than it is to take a core of young superstars to the next level. Acquiring supporting pieces, depth, and developing a prospect pool is far far easier task. That part actually sounds like fun.

 

And much like Burke and Nonis with Gillis getting all the credit, the same will be true for Benning with Allvin and Rutherford. Majority of the heavy lifting was done before they even arrived... and in many different aspects, not just team building.

 

It's easy for a coach to look good with an all-star goalie. Just as it's easy for a GM to look good if they inherent an all-star core to work with.

Facts. Gillis was GM and POHO during our most successful era. Than the  Benning dark years. Now we have competent management again. 

[Bob Long]

45 minutes ago, conquestofbaguettes said:

 

Supporting cast, depth, prospect pool.

 

This regime has a far easier job than the last one. That's for fucking sure.

 

We need our top prospects to all hit their potential but that's another area where I think we are better off than TO - they don't have a Lekkerimaki or Willander.

[AnthonyG]

8 hours ago, Grandmaster said:

The Hogs match penalty was ridiculous. They were BOTH battling it out. Refs were out of control there. Also with the non calls on Petey for the trips and slash on breaking his stick. They probably didn’t like being yelled at for that too many men. A call they were forced to make because of Petey. If that’s the case, that’s pretty petty. 

100000%
 

2min penalty at most. Buddy’s leg came up and infront of Hoglanders first. Hoglander didnt stick his foot behind his leg and then give him a can opener. They battled and that player was off balance as the engagement started. Sure Hoglander gave him a bit of a can opener but it never started with him intentionally sticking his foot behind buddys legs and then trying to injure him. 

[Breadnbutta]

9 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

I've often complained how the Canucks have never won the draft lottery.

 

In hindsight we did with Petey and especially Hughes.

 

Hughes is 100% a generational talent.