Alflives Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: He still has the tools to carve out a bottom 6 NHL role if he puts in enough work. He’s a big body and has elite puck skills. Can’t teach either of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/14/2024 at 4:15 PM, Alflives said: He’s a big body and has elite puck skills. Can’t teach either of those. I’m pretty sure he will be given a much bigger role and rope next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 9 hours ago, RomanPer said: I’m pretty sure he will be given a much bigger role and rope next season. JR said we need to improve on wing. Klimovich has a big opportunity to progress into one of those guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kettlevalley Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 hours ago, Alflives said: JR said we need to improve on wing. Klimovich has a big opportunity to progress into one of those guys. Not sure that is a realistic expectation. Ship may have sailed on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 hours ago, kettlevalley said: Ship may have sailed on him. I doubt that very much. He just turned 21 back in January; still lots of time to develop IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 10 hours ago, kettlevalley said: Not sure that is a realistic expectation. Ship may have sailed on him. What are you basing this opinion on? Asking for a friend. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kettlevalley Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 3 hours ago, RomanPer said: What are you basing this opinion on? Asking for a friend. A juolevi like lack of improvement and stagnation and injuries. He could just jump back to where he could be like Lekkerimaki did......I just don't see it though. My opinion is this one is a bust. Hope I am wrong, but they don't all turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaptainCanuck12 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 17 hours ago, Don Brodka Jr said: OMG! Sooo glad we didn't take Pinelli or Fedotov! Benning was genius!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 5/20/2024 at 1:03 PM, kettlevalley said: Not sure that is a realistic expectation. Ship may have sailed on him. I think you're right that it's not realistic for the coming season. But I'm not going to say the ship has sailed on him. I'm just hoping for a healthy season in the AHL where we his his skills translate into some offensive production. I'll worry about him helping the big club another year down the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchesMalone Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 5/22/2024 at 1:54 AM, CaptainCanuck12 said: OMG! Sooo glad we didn't take Pinelli or Fedotov! Benning was genius!! To be fair that's a couple of really strong drafting teams in Arizona and Carolina that passed over Stankoven too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Oh, how many people in this thread will be eating crow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 The history of this franchise and the league are littered with guys FAR more skilled or hungry than Klimovich who just never panned out. Expectations for him should be at a very low point and for good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 5/14/2024 at 4:15 PM, Alflives said: He’s a big body and has elite puck skills. Can’t teach either of those. Define elite please. 12 hours ago, RomanPer said: Oh, how many people in this thread will be eating crow I love me some crow, but he hasn’t shown anything that says he is going to be a big league player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, D.B Cooper said: Define elite please. I love me some crow, but he hasn’t shown anything that says he is going to be a big league player. Klim O has elite hands. It’s those hands (puck skills) that attracted Benning so much he drafted him. Package elite puck skills with size and there’s a very high ceiling. Didn’t grow up playing high level hockey though so patience is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Klim O has elite hands. It’s those hands (puck skills) that attracted Benning so much he drafted him. Package elite puck skills with size and there’s a very high ceiling. Didn’t grow up playing high level hockey though so patience is needed. You didn’t answer the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, D.B Cooper said: You didn’t answer the question Why do you think Benning used our top pick in that draft on Klim O if not for the combination of elite puck skills and size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Why do you think Benning used our top pick in that draft on Klim O if not for the combination of elite puck skills and size? Because Benning was a fucking idiot. We both know you won’t answer the question because everyone knows there isn’t a single ‘elite’ thing about Klim. If he was elite, we’d all be hearing about it. He isn’t even in our top 5 of prospects. That isn’t elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, D.B Cooper said: Because Benning was a fucking idiot. We both know you won’t answer the question because everyone knows there isn’t a single ‘elite’ thing about Klim. If he was elite, we’d all be hearing about it. He isn’t even in our top 5 of prospects. That isn’t elite Yes Benning is a moran. But Klim O does have elite puck skills. Both can be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 58 minutes ago, Warhippy said: The history of this franchise and the league are littered with guys FAR more skilled or hungry than Klimovich who just never panned out. Expectations for him should be at a very low point and for good reason. Klim's first two seasons in Abby were quite striking for such a young player. He was derailed last season with injuries and just couldn't get his game off the ground. It is the norm in all drafts that 2nd rounders take longer to make the NHL; if ever. Have a look at the 2021 draft and you will see that most 2nd rounders have not played a single game and some have just completed Jrs. A quick look, shows that Klim has done fairly well compared to other 2nd rounders playing in the AHL After looking at this draft, it shows us of Raty's remarkable upward trend. He is the same age as Klim and will likely make the NHL next season. The big difference is that Raty developed through great hockey systems since he was a teenager; whereas Klim has the raw skills, but requires more development. Raty clearly should have been picked late in the 1st. I think there's a decent chance Klim will get there, but it will take some time. Canucks should not give up on him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, D.B Cooper said: Define elite please. I love me some crow, but he hasn’t shown anything that says he is going to be a big league player. Somehow I trust Sedins' and Allvin's opinion about Klim a little more than yours, sorry, bud . And all of the above believe in his skills and development. The way he was used (or shall I say - not used) in the Abby this past season after his injury was one of the reason for Colliton not being back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I prefer a wait and see approach. Hopefully he had his bad season, and next season he can move forward and grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Klim O has elite hands. It’s those hands (puck skills) that attracted Benning so much he drafted him. Package elite puck skills with size and there’s a very high ceiling. Didn’t grow up playing high level hockey though so patience is needed. Elite hands and puck skills? 51 points in 153 AHL games does not scream elite at any level. vs Stankovens 57 points in 47 AHL games which does in fact scream elite. Temper those expectations because the amount of turn around needed to see Danila as even a bottom 6 role player at this point in the NHL let alone a productive top line player in the AHL is going to be beyond dramatic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: Klim's first two seasons in Abby were quite striking for such a young player. He was derailed last season with injuries and just couldn't get his game off the ground. It is the norm in all drafts that 2nd rounders take longer to make the NHL; if ever. Have a look at the 2021 draft and you will see that most 2nd rounders have not played a single game and some have just completed Jrs. A quick look, shows that Klim has done fairly well compared to other 2nd rounders playing in the AHL After looking at this draft, it shows us of Raty's remarkable upward trend. He is the same age as Klim and will likely make the NHL next season. The big difference is that Raty developed through great hockey systems since he was a teenager; whereas Klim has the raw skills, but requires more development. Raty clearly should have been picked late in the 1st. I think there's a decent chance Klim will get there, but it will take some time. Canucks should not give up on him. There's a chance he'll get there yes. But every indication is that it is an outside shot at this point. That's not hate. That's just the facts. I go to bat and have gone to bat for every prospect we've had for decades but some times the reality sets in and the hopes of an NHL calibre player from a D3-D4 prospect are further away every month that goes by. He's had Cull, Cotillon and will now have Malhotra as a coach. So at some point the reality starts looking more and more like a longer shot than you'd hope for and more like a missed pick; of which we've had literally hundreds if not bordering on the thousands over the decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 59 minutes ago, RomanPer said: Somehow I trust Sedins' and Allvin's opinion about Klim a little more than yours, sorry, bud . And all of the above believe in his skills and development. The way he was used (or shall I say - not used) in the Abby this past season after his injury was one of the reason for Colliton not being back. What are they going to say about him? ‘Klim has been a disappointing pick by our franchise and it doesn’t look good for him’. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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