Visp Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Not trying to start any rumors or anything but there are currently 2 player jerseys on clearance/sale at https://www.nhlshop.ca/en/vancouver-canucks/sale-items/t-14265374+os-45+z-911548-3659922758 - a bunch of Horvat jerseys for obvious reasons and 3 different types of Elias Pettersson jerseys... seems odd Edited November 27, 2023 by Visp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Visp said: Not trying to start any rumors or anything but there are currently 2 player jerseys on clearance/sale at https://www.nhlshop.ca/en/vancouver-canucks/sale-items/t-14265374+os-45+z-911548-3659922758 - a bunch of Horvat jerseys for obvious reasons and 3 different types of Elias Pettersson jerseys... seems odd Easy answer, old jerseys they likely wont wear again so trying to sell them as they have been sitting on a shelf for a while would be my guess... I wonder how much it actually costs to make an NHL uniform, the mark up must be real Gud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 12:25 PM, Viking said: Is it just me or if a player refuses to want to sign long term, they are more of a selfish player than a team player?!? Dont give me the he wants to win BullShit... if a player wants out and they are at the level of EP, they can force a trade out! Look at Tampa they seem to have a player max cap hit of 9.5m, yes taxes I know... but they've built a winner and are still perennial contenders every year. At the end of the day this all falls on the worst GM in Canucks history Benning! Why that idiot didnt lock Hughes AND EP to 8yr deals is idiotic. Instead, we tied up cap space trading for Schmidt... Remember, one injury can ruin a career...just saying! Allvin making more astute moves (trading of Beau, earlier today) for a 5th round pick. It doesn't seem like a huge deal, but that's $4M off the books off of the cap. Gives Allvin and his management team some cap flexibility to make some moves moving forward. Strange to me, though, that the contract with Petey is taking, well, it feels quite long. I wonder what the hold up is. Is it the numbers? Does Petey not want to commit long term to the franchise and city? Is management not convinced that he's a franchise altering player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 8 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Allvin making more astute moves (trading of Beau, earlier today) for a 5th round pick. It doesn't seem like a huge deal, but that's $4M off the books off of the cap. Gives Allvin and his management team some cap flexibility to make some moves moving forward. Strange to me, though, that the contract with Petey is taking, well, it feels quite long. I wonder what the hold up is. Is it the numbers? Does Petey not want to commit long term to the franchise and city? Is management not convinced that he's a franchise altering player? If management uses the cap retention of OEL as an argument to keep $ down, Peteys side will likely say in that case, they'll only sign a shorter deal, leaving room for a monster deal further down the line, when there are more money available. A 3 year deal will leave Petey to get a new contract at the age of 28. Likely a 7-8 year deal at that stage similar to Miller, but obviously at higher $... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, spook007 said: If management uses the cap retention of OEL as an argument to keep $ down, Peteys side will likely say in that case, they'll only sign a shorter deal, leaving room for a monster deal further down the line, when there are more money available. A 3 year deal will leave Petey to get a new contract at the age of 28. Likely a 7-8 year deal at that stage similar to Miller, but obviously at higher $... Likely Petey’s next deal is 4 years at 9.5 per. If the term gets longer then the yearly cap allocation will certainly go up. Likely by .7 mil per year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: Likely Petey’s next deal is 4 years at 9.5 per. If the term gets longer then the yearly cap allocation will certainly go up. Likely by .7 mil per year. I think, you are dreaming/hoping Alf... if only this was the case, we could probably become a contender sooner than we think. (would be fabulous for us all). More like 10-11.5 for 3 -4 years and then the same for additional 8 years maybe increased by 0.5 as you say. This would give him about the same, as if he signed here for 8 years, and then had to sign an extension after that at likely far less money. Either way Alf this is likely, what they are discussing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/29/2023 at 5:54 AM, Alflives said: Likely Petey’s next deal is 4 years at 9.5 per. Yeah I'm thinking something like this too anywhere in the 9.5-10.5 range. I don't hate the idea. It will keep the cost down a bit compared to a longer term deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Bobby James said: Yeah I'm thinking something like this too anywhere in the 9.5-10.5 range. I don't hate the idea. It will keep the cost down a bit compared to a longer term deal. I'd be fine with a deal like that, especially if he wants to cash in for a final deal after that. Or, he could walk as a UFA. With his recent play, though, I'm not sure how management wants to sign him long term - maybe they don't want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillisD Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Take a hundred grand off the offer every time he goes bambi legs on the ice. Man I wish he would clean that up. It's embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando27 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Wouldn't pay Petey any more than Miller or Hughes right now. He isn't doing himself any favors for a big contract this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Yip, agree with many on here. EP is an elite talent and we are lucky to have him. He may well get on par with the elite in hockey, but not yet. I thought it was his wrist hurting, and may well be, but he is not skating well either. Something is up. Injuries? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rekker said: Yip, agree with many on here. EP is an elite talent and we are lucky to have him. He may well get on par with the elite in hockey, but not yet. I thought it was his wrist hurting, and may well be, but he is not skating well either. Something is up. Injuries? Maybe. When we where healthy our guys played great.Defense injuries force him to play2/3 of time on our half.Doesn't help that Tocch grind them in to dust.Interesting question is why Edmonton have 5 days free between games if i am not mistaken? Edited December 1, 2023 by Lemon Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Rekker said: Yip, agree with many on here. EP is an elite talent and we are lucky to have him. He may well get on par with the elite in hockey, but not yet. I thought it was his wrist hurting, and may well be, but he is not skating well either. Something is up. Injuries? Maybe. Dint it get reported groin? Or am I crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, R3aL said: Dint it get reported groin? Or am I crazy And groin and hit by Myers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, R3aL said: Dint it get reported groin? Or am I crazy Might help explain why he gets knocked over every single time he gets bumped. Idk wtf it is but he cannot stay on his feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Wake up petey, team goes as far as you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 All this pettersson hate but it’s clear kids dealing with an injury and he’s still the best defensive forward in the ice and the power play entry’s he does with his poise never get praised, he will get going again we seen what his potential is I’m happy locking him up max term at 11 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Lemon Face said: When we where healthy our guys played great.Defense injuries force him to play2/3 of time on our half.Doesn't help that Tocch grind them in to dust.Interesting question is why Edmonton have 5 days free between games if i am not mistaken? I imagine the schedule evens out and we will have some bigger gaps between games as well. EP looks off, not really into excuses, he needs to be better and has shown he can do more. I'm a huge EP fan and he has the skills to be dominant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, R3aL said: Dint it get reported groin? Or am I crazy Interesting, groin would make sense, his speed isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Captain insano said: All this pettersson hate but it’s clear kids dealing with an injury and he’s still the best defensive forward in the ice and the power play entry’s he does with his poise never get praised, he will get going again we seen what his potential is I’m happy locking him up max term at 11 million If he's dealing with an injury that is impacting his performance why is he still in the line up? You would think management would be more cautious considering the Pearson fiasco Edited December 2, 2023 by iinatcc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, iinatcc said: If he's dealing with an injury that is impacting his performance why is he still in the line up? You would think management would be more cautious considering the Pearson fiasco Sick of guys making excuses for this guy, if he is hurt he should have been shut down a month ago when he started to suck because he's clearly not getting any better and I'm tired of it, You know the team is very shallow at C when they have to trot the broken 170 lb brittle wonder Petey out there week after week. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, sxqhfeh said: Sick of guys making excuses for this guy, if he is hurt he should have been shut down a month ago when he started to suck because he's clearly not getting any better and I'm tired of it, You know the team is very shallow at C when they have to trot the broken 170 lb brittle wonder Petey out there week after week. I doubt he's injured, he's just being his broody little self...he's not exactly mister personality after all....and who knows, maybe the contract thing is hanging over his head like a big turd, and he's second guessing himself now? Or even worse, he's just going through the the motions and has already "checked out", knowing/thinking that he wants to head out for greener pastures....who know, the guys an enigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusk Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I think Petey is just stressed thinking he would have a breakout year like we all thought. Instead, Miller and Brock showing what a 7 or 8 million dollar contract looks like. There have been so many people saying give Petey 10, 11 or whatever for 8 years.... How would he ever live up to that? that would be an OEL anchor around Petey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 You last posters suck so hard haha! It’s been publicly reported he is dealing with a groin injury (don’t ask me for a link just google it you idiot). Anyone who has dealt with a groin injury and played hockey will understand why he’s losing his feet from under him. I know it would be a blow to our lineup but I’d sit him a couple if that’s something that could help. But I’m not a doctor and a doctor has chosen the course, so I’ll trust their decades of sports medicine over everyone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Tusk said: I think Petey is just stressed thinking he would have a breakout year like we all thought. Instead, Miller and Brock showing what a 7 or 8 million dollar contract looks like. There have been so many people saying give Petey 10, 11 or whatever for 8 years.... How would he ever live up to that? that would be an OEL anchor around Petey I hope this isn't the case because If this is then Pettersson isn't a team guy then. It would indicate he cares more about his individual stats than winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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