Bob Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Lemon Face said: JT at 10 still better then half of Laffs top line Yep. To land him with Horvat money is a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Already spoke to this, a sign and trade that Pettersson wasn't on board with wouldn't look good for the Canucks. Sign and trades aren't a common occurrence at the NHL level. Don't see why a team that's historically been a bottom feeder in Columbus would pony up what it'd cost to acquire Pettersson without having him locked in long-term anyway. Acquiring him and then having to either trade him again down the road or risk having him walk wouldn't be a very smart way to handle assets. If Pettersson doesn't want to sign long-term on a team that finally looks to be more of an up and comer than I don't see why he'd sign long-term in Columbus. He's made it pretty clear he wants to be on a winning team. Its strictly business, if he doesnt want to be here long term other players/agents would understand moving him. Columbus has lots of pressure to make the playoffs in a tough division. If he doesnt want to sign with any team long term, then it doesnt matter. If he is looking to break the bank that's fine he has that right, but it shouldnt be with the Canucks, lots of desperate teams probably willing the shell out max dollars for his services even for just 4 years. Edited January 16 by Bure_Pavel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, Lemon Face said: Wonder how much he is going to love Queen when his new contract come up.Or we will see new trade pop up here? I expect it'll be the same thing all over again, folks will love Quinn til he looks to cash in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I expect it'll be the same thing all over again, folks will love Quinn til he looks to cash in Not sure about that. Quinn is pretty darn unique. We've never in the history of this franchise had a defenceman like Quinn. If he wins a Norris, and the Canucks win a Cup with him at the helm, I think most people would just want to give him whatever he wants lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, HKSR said: Not sure about that. Quinn is pretty darn unique. We've never in the history of this franchise had a defenceman like Quinn. If he wins a Norris, and the Canucks win a Cup with him at the helm, I think most people would just want to give him whatever he wants lol Sedins are unique.Spent all there pro years here,and still giving us a lot more then any other hockey retired superstars .Should we hate them because they didn't win Cup???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I'm sorry; I truly think Pettersson adamantly wants to stay in Van. However that's not to say a gigantic home town discount will be fine, it certainly won't For two or three years I have thought in or around twelve per with all the goodies. They could try and negotiate that number and see what happens but I seriously think that is it. Agent demands more? Tata Pete.. suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 22 minutes ago, Lemon Face said: Sedins are unique.Spent all there pro years here,and still giving us a lot more then any other hockey retired superstars .Should we hate them because they didn't win Cup???? Hate them? What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 18 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: I'm sorry; I truly think Pettersson adamantly wants to stay in Van. However that's not to say a gigantic home town discount will be fine, it certainly won't For two or three years I have thought in or around twelve per with all the goodies. They could try and negotiate that number and see what happens but I seriously think that is it. Agent demands more? Tata Pete.. suffice. I disagree. Elias can barely answer a media question with out being sarcastic and seeming hugely frustrated and offendend. He's lost my respect with the attitude. The fans pay him a lot of money to be a part of an organization. That aside this does not seem like a man who wants to answer why he isn't performing to his 13 million dollar contract every day when he can disappear in Tampa and no one will take up his time with media questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, ronning4center said: I disagree. Elias can barely answer a media question with out being sarcastic and seeming hugely frustrated and offendend. He's lost my respect with the attitude. The fans pay him a lot of money to be a part of an organization. That aside this does not seem like a man who wants to answer why he isn't performing to his 13 million dollar contract every day when he can disappear in Tampa and no one will take up his time with media questions. Guess we'll see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_can_fan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Not looking good..... Sportsnet: Is there any change in Elias Pettersson’s situation? Any sign of negotiations resuming? Allvin: I have conversations (with his agent) but nothing obviously has changed. We want to keep Petey here. He knows that. At some point it's going to come down to negotiations and if it's working or not. We have another year with him as an RFA; we're not going to lose him this summer. But that being said, I'm trying to plan for our team this year and next year and I want him to be a big part of it. Sportsnet: Based on your experience, is this situation unusual — a core player eligible for restricted free agency wanting to hold off negotiations? Allvin: Maybe a little bit, yeah. Sportsnet: Do you believe Pettersson wants to remain a Canuck? Allvin: I do believe that he wants to be a part of a good team. He wants to be part of a winning team and I do know that he has a good relationship with Toc and he really appreciates the changes and the direction the team is going. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/qa-with-canucks-gm-patrik-allvin-on-pettersson-kuzmenko-and-being-known-as-trader-pat/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, van_can_fan said: Not looking good..... Sportsnet: Is there any change in Elias Pettersson’s situation? Any sign of negotiations resuming? Allvin: I have conversations (with his agent) but nothing obviously has changed. We want to keep Petey here. He knows that. At some point it's going to come down to negotiations and if it's working or not. We have another year with him as an RFA; we're not going to lose him this summer. But that being said, I'm trying to plan for our team this year and next year and I want him to be a big part of it. Sportsnet: Based on your experience, is this situation unusual — a core player eligible for restricted free agency wanting to hold off negotiations? Allvin: Maybe a little bit, yeah. Sportsnet: Do you believe Pettersson wants to remain a Canuck? Allvin: I do believe that he wants to be a part of a good team. He wants to be part of a winning team and I do know that he has a good relationship with Toc and he really appreciates the changes and the direction the team is going. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/qa-with-canucks-gm-patrik-allvin-on-pettersson-kuzmenko-and-being-known-as-trader-pat/ This is pretty telling. Alvin usually dodges questions pretty well. He's all but said this isn't going well and we need to plan for the future. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I honestly don’t care what he gets. It’s not like negotiating with a first liner, Petey is elite and we still haven’t seen his best. Petey and when Hughes is up can both get top dollar and I won’t blink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, ronning4center said: This is pretty telling. Alvin usually dodges questions pretty well. He's all but said this isn't going well and we need to plan for the future. No he didn’t! Allvin said he will negotiate a new contract for Petey. Only a fisher would see otherwise. Fish in another pond., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Devron said: I honestly don’t care what he gets. It’s not like negotiating with a first liner, Petey is elite and we still haven’t seen his best. Petey and when Hughes is up can both get top dollar and I won’t blink Yup. Petey and Hughes are both generational talents. They will lead us to multiple Cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, ronning4center said: This is pretty telling. Alvin usually dodges questions pretty well. He's all but said this isn't going well and we need to plan for the future. I think this is the most worrisome part: "Sportsnet: Do you believe Pettersson wants to remain a Canuck? Allvin: I do believe that he wants to be a part of a good team..." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: No he didn’t! Allvin said he will negotiate a new contract for Petey. Only a fisher would see otherwise. Fish in another pond., He literally said that this was unusual....and when asked if he wanted to be a canuck....he said I think he wants to be on a good team. Thats not fishing bro. Also...if he was really a team a guy do you really think he'd not have signed? Or maybe answer some questions without the attitude. No way he wants to deal with our media for life when under performs on a 13 million dollar contract. Prove me wrong Edited January 17 by ronning4center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, HKSR said: I think this is the most worrisome part: "Sportsnet: Do you believe Pettersson wants to remain a Canuck? Allvin: I do believe that he wants to be a part of a good team..." Totally! This is Alvin frustrated and letting us know petey is not sold on vancouver long term. I think he'd rather play in a quiet market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I love Petey but, i'm now over this. If he re-signs great. if he really doesn't to re-sign than we don't want him. I'm sure we can get a kings ransom in a trade for him and rather have players that want to be in vancouver than guys just chasing top dollar. Whatever happens i have full confidence in PA and JR with this one. Sign Reinhart in Free Agency and bring in 3-4 young, good, and cost controlled players for Petey (a la better package than PLD in WPG/LA) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 My gut tells me he gets the good ole ' sign and trade '. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, bh90 said: I love Petey but, i'm now over this. If he re-signs great. if he really doesn't to re-sign than we don't want him. I'm sure we can get a kings ransom in a trade for him and rather have players that want to be in vancouver than guys just chasing top dollar. Whatever happens i have full confidence in PA and JR with this one. Sign Reinhart in Free Agency and bring in 3-4 young, good, and cost controlled players for Petey (a la better package than PLD in WPG/LA) Petey will extend with us. The empties have spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Dom said: My gut tells me he gets the good ole ' sign and trade '. Nope he’s staying for a team friendly deal long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, bh90 said: I love Petey but, i'm now over this. If he re-signs great. if he really doesn't to re-sign than we don't want him. I'm sure we can get a kings ransom in a trade for him and rather have players that want to be in vancouver than guys just chasing top dollar. Whatever happens i have full confidence in PA and JR with this one. Sign Reinhart in Free Agency and bring in 3-4 young, good, and cost controlled players for Petey (a la better package than PLD in WPG/LA) I rather just 1 or 2 REALLY good and established young players. Quality over quantity. Easier said than done, but that'd be the hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Alflives said: Petey will extend with us. The empties have spoken. I hope so. But i'm done worrying about this because of PA and JR. Sign or not sign we have options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, bh90 said: I hope so. But i'm done worrying about this because of PA and JR. Sign or not sign we have options Petey will extend long term. That is fact. Accept it. Now now to the empties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, HKSR said: I rather just 1 or 2 REALLY good and established young players. Quality over quantity. Easier said than done, but that'd be the hope. i agree i think in a trade we should expect to get at least a first line forward and a first pairing deenseman. Similar to Tkachuk for Huberdeau and Weegar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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