Bob Long Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: It doesn't have to be 12M available though, more than likely we'd be taking cap back. Let's take a look. I could see Nashville being interested, O'Reilly is their 1C and he ain't getting any younger. Hard to say which direction Trotz wants to take the Preds. I don't view them as a likely trade partner, but you never know. Potentially Buffalo, but we'd likely be taking one of Mittlestadt or Cozens+ back. They could fit him, Thompson being on such a palatable deal helps them. But I don't see it as being a likely thing. Columbus could certainly use him, but I don't see Pettersson having any interest in the mess that's been Columbus. Potentially Carolina? Pettersson and Aho would be a nice 1-2 punch. We'd likely be asking for Svechnikov+ though. Winnipeg could use Pettersson, I don't see a Monahan extension as a sure thing and Schiefele will be 31 in March. Doubt Pettersson has any interest in Winnipeg though. Pettersson and Barkov would also be a nice 1-2 punch, he'd likely cost him less due to taxes. Hard to say what Florida does, them keeping all of their current crew seems like a stretch, they're a wildcard. Hard to say what we'd want from them though. Seattle has Beniers, Wennburg is a pending UFA. Walking away from both Eberle and Wennburg would pay for most of Pettersson. We'd be asking for Beneirs or Wright+, but maybe they'd go for it to get a 1C. Maybe Dallas? Someone to go with Hintz? Benn's deal will be up after next season, Pavelski won't play forever. Duchene is having a great year but he's 33 and isn't a long-term option up front. Maybe something around Robertson? Harley and Johnston are appealing pieces. Boston has Coyle and Zacha as their top two centers, and while they've both performed admirably Pettersson would be an upgrade. We'd probably have to take one of them back in any deal, they have trade clauses and Coyle has a NMC, but who knows. Boston has limited trade assets though, probably not an ideal trade partner. Strome has played well for Washington but they need a top six center something fierce. They have the Backstrom LTIR, and his deal is up entirely after next season. Hard to say what we'd want from them though. If Minnesota didn't have another season of 14M+ in dead cap space ahead of them I'd list them, but they do. Tampa could opt to let Stamkos walk and try to trade for Pettersson but it seems extremely unlikely given he's a franchise icon. Cernak and Hagel are interesting pieces. Vegas has Eichel, but never count them out. I just wonder how many of these ar destinations Petey would want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43isprime Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, ronning4center said: Well this is interesting. First the top ten points leaders. Next the top ten highest salaries. Since a lot of people simply sight points productions this would put petey around the Mitch marner value of 9.8 which is exactly where I feel he should be. Though points is not my personal driving factor to value. For my "best player" I like a guy who has character, can change a game, can play with an edge and is team first... hmmm Pettersson is actually 14th in points per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 33 minutes ago, LillStrimma said: Why let the drama queens dictate? I don't think we should. But why do you think Petey hasn't signed yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, Dizzle said: It’s a first round pick and a grade a prospect short of being something that you don’t hang up the phone on… So you think a Big, offensive Physical 20 year old center (3rd overall) and potentially Cellebrini plus 12 mil in cap room isn’t enough? really? That’s a haul in my books given the age and quality, and Anaheim would be probably tough to convince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, Bardown said: So you think a Big, offensive Physical 20 year old center (3rd overall) and potentially Cellebrini plus 12 mil in cap room isn’t enough? really? That’s a haul in my books given the age and quality, and Anaheim would be probably tough to convince. Especially because Petey wouldn't sign with them and they know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43isprime Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, ronning4center said: Well this is interesting. First the top ten points leaders. Next the top ten highest salaries. Since a lot of people simply sight points productions this would put petey around the Mitch marner value of 9.8 which is exactly where I feel he should be. Though points is not my personal driving factor to value. For my "best player" I like a guy who has character, can change a game, can play with an edge and is team first... hmmm This makes the 12m valuation of Pettersson just that much more comical. Sure...if 32 teams bid for him, at least one GM will massively overpay, but that doesn't mean he'll provide value at 12m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I just wonder how many of these ar destinations Petey would want? Dallas, Seattle, Florida, and Carolina jump out to me Maybe Boston or Washington, but I don't like their pieces as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, 43isprime said: This makes the 12m valuation of Pettersson just that much more comical. Sure...if 32 teams bid for him, at least one GM will massively overpay, but that doesn't mean he'll provide value at 12m. 12 mil has to be a franchise player a player who changes the game on the Canucks that’s Hughes, Miller and Demko Petey is a heck of a point producer, not a guy you can lean on to change the game. this is what Halford and Brough said this morning and I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Especially because Petey wouldn't sign with them and they know it. See my previous post to coconuts on this issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 27 minutes ago, Bardown said: Why is it bad? Selling dollar for pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, bhoodlum said: Does Pettersson have a limited NTC because if not then he has to go wherever he's traded. his 1 year rfa pretty much is the biggest NTC u can get as a rfa.. he literally have to say i'll only sign with xxx city and no where else.. then ya no team would put a package for him unless they are planning on a 1 year rental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43isprime Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, Bardown said: 12 mil has to be a franchise player a player who changes the game on the Canucks that’s Hughes, Miller and Demko Petey is a heck of a point producer, not a guy you can lean on to change the game. this is what Halford and Brough said this morning and I agree Agree. He's great at capitalizing on opportunities presented to him, but has a hard time generating opportunities on a consistent basis. I suspect this is why his play appears so inconsistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, 43isprime said: Agree. He's great at capitalizing on opportunities presented to him, but has a hard time generating opportunities on a consistent basis. I suspect this is why his play appears so inconsistent. Best way of saying it. It would be interesting to see how he performs without a Quinn Hughes and Miller on the PP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) should be tarred and feathered, dumb smucks... Edited February 28 by Rip The Mesh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourTimeisNow Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Yeah, I’m not liking this Petey situation. It reflects badly on his character. If he’s upset about a history of poor line-mates, that’s fine…but management has done enough imo to work toward correcting that. He didn’t like all the losing. Okay, but pretty hard to argue against first in the league at the 3/4 mark. Just sign your 12 by 8 and stop pissing around. Management has so many decisions to make in the near future, and he’s getting in the way of that. They need to know if they can keep Lindholm or keep the third line intact. Do they keep Zadorov or Cole? Can they chase Tanav at some point. Can they get Mik’s cap off the books, etc etc. If he’s going to be one of those zoomer loser athletes, I’d try to make a trade with Comubus: Fantilli and Jiricek…or Fantilli and Werenski. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, bhoodlum said: Does Pettersson have a limited NTC because if not then he has to go wherever he's traded. For 1 yr (only) while under contract EP has to go where traded, But doubtful a team trading for him for only 1 yr of service. (without knowing he will re-sign with them) will give up equal value trading talent the Canucks will get multiple years from Were not trading EP because we don't like him, we are doing it because either he won't re-sign in Van or his price/term is not in line for keeping a strong depth team for years to come what would people be saying Miller is getting if was re-signing this year? He is the leader and gets more points at centre, where as EP got quite a bit being a w on his line and pp Miller wanted to stay and glad he signed and is the #1 centre right now Ep already held out, Not sure why with so many Swedes we have resigning troubles Didn't Gillis have to fly to Sweden in 2009 to convince the Sedin's to re-sign? Now they live here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43isprime Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Bardown said: Best way of saying it. It would be interesting to see how he performs without a Quinn Hughes and Miller on the PP This is what he looks like with and without Hughes 5 on 5. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lemon Face said: Selling dollar for pennies. I don’t think so actually. McTavish is 4 years younger Also a left Handed Center bigger, more physical and 3rd overall year one 43pts in 82 games This year 39 pts in 50 games plays a hard heavy hame - he’s a great replacement the pick will be top 3. We’re getting Celebrini or a top 3 pick regardless Edited February 28 by Bardown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: Fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, 43isprime said: This is what he looks like with and without Hughes 5 on 5. Says a lot doesn’t it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, Bardown said: Fake news $13 mill per is too much- unless it is a sign and trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, Bardown said: Says a lot doesn’t it? Maybe- but a chart of Hughes without Petey may show a similar drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43isprime Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Gurn said: Maybe- but a chart of Hughes without Petey may show a similar drop? Here's the rest (source is a recent Drance article from The Athletic). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) Anyone have a list of teams that have all 4 of their first round picks, needed to offer Petey a new deal?- I'm figuring it at being 4 first compensation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- edit- nvm found one at capfriendly https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator Edited February 28 by Gurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, J-23 said: The Rangers would definitely include Mika if it meant they were getting Pettersson back. The additional guys would be interesting Lafreniere, Chytil, Schneider, Miller, etc. Who would it be? This is why I’m not really concerned. If he stays we are good. If he wants to leave, then there is nothing we can really do about it. Also we would get a really good trade back. Nothing to worry about in my opinion. Sounds so familiar. Hopefully it will turn out the same way as the JT Miller trade proposals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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