Pears Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Just now, HKSR said: Out of the top 15 scorers in the league, he has the 3rd lowest primary assists and that's including Matthews who only has 25 assists in total. He also has a better points percentage against teams in the top 10 than he does against others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 6 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Have you been watching - him- he disappeared - for the past month he’s lost his spark - looks disengaged and disinterested - he might be putting up points but he’s lost his fire You can bet your bottom dollar Oilers fans were asking the same questions about McDavid and Draisaitl for the first month before they figured it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 17 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: That would Be epic… but ya A guy can dream, right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post old guy Posted February 26 Popular Post Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Coryberg said: That would be hilarious... but any team who gives up a ton to get him is going to want assurances. If EP doesn't want to re-sign he can just walk in a year, nobody is selling the farm for that. If he wants to play on a winning team-he's got that. If he wants too much money- he'll have to go where that cash is available, and if that's all he wants he'll go wherever that is offered. I'm not worried that management will drop the ball here, but it will be interesting. I'm older and don't have time for bullshit games, I believe JR and PA feel the same way. 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohthehumanity Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 34 minutes ago, Pears said: Exactly this. It's pathetic and downright embarrassing to criticize this guy for a "rough" stretch where he still has 9 points in his last 10 games. He is also a minus 2 in those last 10 games, and he looks like he doesn't give a rip. IF the rumor is true that he was offered that mega deal but didn't sign it, then he wants out. If he was 22 still, I would cut him some slack, but the fact that he still gets knocked down so easily has convinced me that we are not going to see Sundin v2 here, and if that is the case, then he is nowhere near a $12 million dollar player for max term. $12 million dollar players are guys like McDavid, MacKinnon, or Matthews. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 7 minutes ago, Ohthehumanity said: He is also a minus 2 in those last 10 games, and he looks like he doesn't give a rip. IF the rumor is true that he was offered that mega deal but didn't sign it, then he wants out. If he was 22 still, I would cut him some slack, but the fact that he still gets knocked down so easily has convinced me that we are not going to see Sundin v2 here, and if that is the case, then he is nowhere near a $12 million dollar player for max term. $12 million dollar players are guys like McDavid, MacKinnon, or Matthews. The last report was he never in fact turned down that 8 year, $96 million offer in the summer but, again, stated he wanted to see how the season went and didn't want to negotiate during it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, MJDDawg said: The difference with Kesler was that he’d already put over 10 years of his blood, sweat and tears into the organization, working his way up from the Manitoba Moose to almost single handedly getting us the Cup final on one leg. After that he just wasn’t interested in being part of another rebuild at his age. I don’t like how it eventually ended for him but I don’t begrudge him wanting to leave. He’d earned it by that point imo. Petey hasn’t earned a damn thing at this point. Agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 43 minutes ago, Pears said: Can you tell me who made the heads up play in overtime on Saturday that lead to Boston getting called for too many men? One example doesn’t equal a body of work does it… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 42 minutes ago, gwarrior said: A guy can dream, right? Edited February 26 by I.AM.THE.WALRUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Maybe it's something in his personal life? He just doesn't seem to be the player we all know he can be. His focus seems off. Hopefully he will be back soon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 45 minutes ago, Pears said: You can bet your bottom dollar Oilers fans were asking the same questions about McDavid and Draisaitl for the first month before they figured it out. The deal is McGoats was injured he got better and hasn’t looked back petey fades in and fades out over and over… And he’s lost his spark isn’t emotionally invested 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: The deal is McGoats was injured he got better and hasn’t looked back petey fades in and fades out over and over… And he’s lost his spark isn’t emotionally invested Bullshit. There was not a single report of McDavid playing injured whatsoever. That's just a sad made up excuse to fit your narratives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Just now, Hammertime said: Maybe it's something in his personal life? He just doesn't seem to be the player we all know he can be. His focus seems off. Hopefully he will be back soon. Ya that crossed my mind maybe he’s depressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Just now, Pears said: Bullshit. There was not a single report of McDavid playing injured whatsoever. That's just a sad made up excuse to fit your narratives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) SmElliotte Friedman trying to create waves again. Teams call on different players all the time doesn’t mean they’re being shopped or that there’s anything to it. He “reports” on this because he likes to try and rile this market up. It’s unprofessional. Report on something concrete not a bunch of supposed phone calls that went nowhere. Edited February 26 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 We all care about Petey and this team we want management to assemble the best team possible that will give us the best possible chance of bringing home Lord Stanley we all believe he has the talent to be top 5 in the league but something has gone out in him… “the thrill is gone” we all approach this situation a little differently that’s all we don’t have to agree - but let’s keep it fun around here… don’t take yourself too seriously hugs not drugs stay classy we all want the same thing… Lord Stanley… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wes Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 48 minutes ago, Ohthehumanity said: He is also a minus 2 in those last 10 games, and he looks like he doesn't give a rip. IF the rumor is true that he was offered that mega deal but didn't sign it, then he wants out. If he was 22 still, I would cut him some slack, but the fact that he still gets knocked down so easily has convinced me that we are not going to see Sundin v2 here, and if that is the case, then he is nowhere near a $12 million dollar player for max term. $12 million dollar players are guys like McDavid, MacKinnon, or Matthews. And if the rumor isn’t true? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Dhali mentioned that there's zero indication that Petey wants to sign long term, and there's "frustration there." He also mentions Petey doesn't want out. So it's just a case of Petey wanting a short-mid term deal and management wanting 7-8 year deal. I think Petey is more concerned with chasing the bag than winning like he claimed. Again, that's his right. But the writing is on the wall that he's more interested in money. Following the Matthews model of getting the biggest possible bag on 4-5 year deals. I don't think the sky is falling. I think Petey would re-sign. The question is, how committed is he to winning and the team. And how much of it is just him trying to get every single penny he can. Is the lack of commitment to a long term deal enough for management to trade off the center with arguably the most talent we've ever had? I somehow doubt it. I think they begrudgingly sign him to a 4-5 year deal for 12+mil and just try build around him and Huggy as best they can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I think it's best for both sides to just wait it out, it's hard to say if he doesn't want to be here forever, maybe he wants some California love, I don't think it's really hurt us not locking him up he's been hot and cold, no way we trade him this year Jesus that would be stupid. We still have leverage here. Hard to see him making 4 mill more than Miller. Would have been nice having Miller Horvat Petey this year but Bo wanted that chedda cheese and maybe Petey is the same. At least we got Lindholm as I think our Centers were not at contender level with Bo gone. And maybe Lindholm signs cheaper than Bo would have? By a million at best probably.. I still see Petey at a level below McJesus, Matthews, Mckinnon.. so I'm still in the 11 max crowd. Doesn't seem like that'll get it done but maybe we trade him next year like Colorado did with O O OReilly, and a bunch of other young stars, would be nice to get a damn good roster player And a 1st + to keep some youth coming in while we go for it. Just has to be the right package which Petey would collect for us. I'm not worried really. Miller still has some good years of the player coming back is a big step back in progress and needs some time. But if that's their plan gotta get a damn good Center back, and a high pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohthehumanity Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 3 minutes ago, Mr Wes said: And if the rumor isn’t true? Then it is a whole lot to do about nothing, but this is a forum, and we talk about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Pears said: Can you tell me who made the heads up play in overtime on Saturday that lead to Boston getting called for too many men? Petterson is an excellent smart hockey player, and a top player in the league. No one on here said he wasn't; he is VERY good, not élite. The question is if a guy that fades in and out for periods of time throughout the year and seems disinterested/disengaged at the moment is worth >12m/yr over 8 years. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testycal Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Petey is here for now...I want him to play hard in the playoffs and if he wins the cup, he has his cup, his qualification money for next year or a trade to another team and I suspect PA and JR will pull the plug early so as not to be further backed into a corner. Win a cup and leave..love and leave them way of operating one's life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I think the main reason they got Lindholm was insurance in case Pettersson wanted out. Seems that may be a possibility now. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted February 26 Popular Post Share Posted February 26 If the season ended right now Miller would possibly garner some Selke and even Hart nominations. Petey wouldn't I dare say Miller is more valuable to us right now than Petey If Petey doesn't want to be here so be it. Trade him where he wants to be and reap the futures for it Don't hold on for the sole reason of hope 2 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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