Bob Long Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Drakrami said: What's the logic behind that? Matthews just signed a 13.25 for 5 years. Shorter term doesn't mean less money for established top scorers lol. Allvin is smarter than Treliving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, Drakrami said: What's the logic behind that? Matthews just signed a 13.25 for 5 years. Shorter term doesn't mean less money for established top scorers lol. Matthews is proven to be selfish. He’s all about his being the top paid guy. Petey is a great player who wants to win the Cup. A shorter term absolutely will bring down the yearly cap allocation. Petey will sign 3-4 years at 9.5. Accept the empties and bow to their residual odour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe King Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 10 hours ago, HKSR said: The team is a winning team now, but Petey is sucking right now too... no deal because he wants both -- winning team and the big bucks. Big bucks comes from big performance which he isn't doing right now. Imagine if he was performing better,like he was before. We would probably not only be leading the league but have a points gap to boot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Joe King said: Imagine if he was performing better,like he was before. We would probably not only be leading the league but have a points gap to boot. Yup. If Petey and Miller are firing on all cylinders with the emergence of our top tier 3rd line, we'd be a serious cup contender. Edited December 30, 2023 by HKSR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 10 hours ago, HKSR said: The team is a winning team now, but Petey is sucking right now too... no deal because he wants both -- winning team and the big bucks. Big bucks comes from big performance which he isn't doing right now. Imagine if Petey does sign for 11+ million and then doesn't perform in the playoffs, or slumps multiple times and doesn't live up to the dollar amount. Skillwise he's elite, but mentally so far in his career he's still very immature. He's also seen what can happen to guys who don't perform in this pressurized market, so maybe he's deciding if he does want out. Whatever it is, I just hope he decides sooner rather than later, because right now it seems like he's waiting it out so he can bend Allvin over the table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocanuck Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Imagine if Petey does sign for 11+ million and then doesn't perform in the playoffs, or slumps multiple times and doesn't live up to the dollar amount. Skillwise he's elite, but mentally so far in his career he's still very immature. He's also seen what can happen to guys who don't perform in this pressurized market, so maybe he's deciding if he does want out. Whatever it is, I just hope he decides sooner rather than later, because right now it seems like he's waiting it out so he can bend Allvin over the table. I think you make a good point.. people on these boards or fans in general feel who wouldn't want to be a star hockey player in a Canadian market? The fact is not as many as you would think. I think petey probably wants to play in a market where off the ice he is more normal with less attention.. if he really wanted to stay in vancouver i am sure negotiations would have already been ongoing. Its sad for the people around here but i feel that is why he only signed a three year deal so he had more control over his ability to leave. Just my 2 cents 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cocanuck said: I think you make a good point.. people on these boards or fans in general feel who wouldn't want to be a star hockey player in a Canadian market? The fact is not as many as you would think. I think petey probably wants to play in a market where off the ice he is more normal with less attention.. if he really wanted to stay in vancouver i am sure negotiations would have already been ongoing. Its sad for the people around here but i feel that is why he only signed a three year deal so he had more control over his ability to leave. Just my 2 cents Just makes me appreciate Miller. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) I actually thought his contract would be done during this break. There were no game distractions. Very disappointing. Edited December 30, 2023 by Grandmaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got the Babych Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Drakrami said: What's the logic behind that? Matthews just signed a 13.25 for 5 years. Shorter term doesn't mean less money for established top scorers lol. But Matthews is an established top scorer in the league. Petey is not. In AM's 7 seasons he has over 30 goals every year, over 40 five years, including one 60 goal year. Petey is over 30 twice in his five seasons. This season so far, AM has exactly 3X as many goals as Petey. That's some hungover math right there. Apparently 13 X 3 does not = 29. So, AM only has 2.25 X as many goals as EP this season. Edited December 30, 2023 by Got the Babych IQ deficiency. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: I actually thought his contract would be done during this break. There were no game distractions and the Very disappointing. His side is demanding 12.5 if it’s for 8 years. Canucks are offering the same as Pastranak got (11.25). Neither side is budging. I think Petey ultimately Re-signs here for 2-3 more years at 11.5. But if not, I think we see something crazy this off-season like he gets qualified then traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, Northern_Nuck said: His side is demanding 12.5 if it’s for 8 years. Canucks are offering the same as Pastranak got (11.25). Neither side is budging. I think Petey ultimately Re-signs here for 2-3 more years at 11.5. But if not, I think we see something crazy this off-season like he gets qualified then traded. I was about to go off on 12.5 being too high but it really is only about 1M of a difference with his comparables. He is supposed to be our core and top 3 player on the team so I think the Canucks should bite the bullet and sign him, even though he isn’t playing at that standard at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Got the Babych said: But Matthews is an established top scorer in the league. Petey is not. In AM's 7 seasons he has over 30 goals every year, over 40 five years, including one 60 goal year. Petey is over 30 twice in his five seasons. This season so far, AM has exactly 3X as many goals as Petey. Yup, I can't stand Matthews, but you can't deny he is on another level compared to Petey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Northern_Nuck said: His side is demanding 12.5 if it’s for 8 years. Canucks are offering the same as Pastranak got (11.25). Neither side is budging. I think Petey ultimately Re-signs here for 2-3 more years at 11.5. But if not, I think we see something crazy this off-season like he gets qualified then traded. Pastrnak money is MORE than fair. I don't know how Petey could garner more than Pasta. Can't even argue that Pasta plays with top line talent either. He's doing it this year with Zacha and Morgan Geekie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Grandmaster said: I actually thought his contract would be done during this break. There were no game distractions. Very disappointing. I'm not surprised. Petey played like ass this month. His stock is at a low point coming into the break. Next time frame is all stars. He definitely ain't gonna be picked and if he steps up Jan than it probably gets done by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got the Babych Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, HKSR said: Yup, I can't stand Matthews, but you can't deny he is on another level compared to Petey. Haha, yep I feel the same way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 2:52 PM, Tusk said: But the only way EP is going there is if Bedard is coming home with Maklin Celebrini guy so Chicago has to tank again, just to get the trade done Agreed, highly unlikely this happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Cocanuck said: I think you make a good point.. people on these boards or fans in general feel who wouldn't want to be a star hockey player in a Canadian market? The fact is not as many as you would think. I think petey probably wants to play in a market where off the ice he is more normal with less attention.. if he really wanted to stay in vancouver i am sure negotiations would have already been ongoing. Its sad for the people around here but i feel that is why he only signed a three year deal so he had more control over his ability to leave. Just my 2 cents I found this odd at the time too. Then he does this with this round of contract talks and it gets even fishier. That is why I am thinking they should nip this in the bud right away and not let it carry on where we are forced to do something right before his contract runs out. Sometimes its just a matter of not having the right fit(player/team) and that fine, but at the end of the day, he is an asset to the team and they have to do what is best for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Elias Pettersson reportedly demands a fortune to stay in Vancouver Will the Canucks sign him to such a contract? HockeyFeed Published 1 day ago Ever since the 2023-24 season got underway, there has been lot of special about star forward Elias Pettersson and his next contract with the Vancouver Canucks. There are many questions about Pettersson’s desire to stay in Vancouver and what it would cost the Canucks to keep the pending restricted free agent. The Canucks have publicly stated more than once that they will do everything in their power to keep Pettersson in Vancouver, but it sounds like they will have to reach deep into their pockets to do so. According to team insider Rick Dhaliwal of The Athletic, Canucks’ management is looking at Boston Bruins’ David Pastrnak’s deal as a comparable in negotiations. You may recall that Pastrnak inked an eight-year contract back in March worth a total of $90 million, an average of $11.25 million per season. The issue is that Pettersson is believed to be asking for more. His specific demands aren’t known and for the moment remain under the radar, but it is believed that Pettersson is hoping to be closer to what was offered to Colorado Avalanche’s Nathan MacKinnon, who became the highest paid player in the entire league with an average salary cap of $12.6 million! Earlier this month, it was confirmed that by commissioner Gary Bettman that the NHL is projecting the salary cap to rise to $87.7 million for next season. The cap, which is expected to rise $4.2 million, has not increased more than $4 million season-over-season since it went up $4.5 million from $75 million in 2017-18 to $79.5 million in 2018-19. This means the Canucks will have more to play with, and therefore, could have no other choice than to satisfy the demands of his best forward to keep him in Vancouver for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: Elias Pettersson reportedly demands a fortune to stay in Vancouver Will the Canucks sign him to such a contract? HockeyFeed Published 1 day ago Ever since the 2023-24 season got underway, there has been lot of special about star forward Elias Pettersson and his next contract with the Vancouver Canucks. There are many questions about Pettersson’s desire to stay in Vancouver and what it would cost the Canucks to keep the pending restricted free agent. The Canucks have publicly stated more than once that they will do everything in their power to keep Pettersson in Vancouver, but it sounds like they will have to reach deep into their pockets to do so. According to team insider Rick Dhaliwal of The Athletic, Canucks’ management is looking at Boston Bruins’ David Pastrnak’s deal as a comparable in negotiations. You may recall that Pastrnak inked an eight-year contract back in March worth a total of $90 million, an average of $11.25 million per season. The issue is that Pettersson is believed to be asking for more. His specific demands aren’t known and for the moment remain under the radar, but it is believed that Pettersson is hoping to be closer to what was offered to Colorado Avalanche’s Nathan MacKinnon, who became the highest paid player in the entire league with an average salary cap of $12.6 million! Earlier this month, it was confirmed that by commissioner Gary Bettman that the NHL is projecting the salary cap to rise to $87.7 million for next season. The cap, which is expected to rise $4.2 million, has not increased more than $4 million season-over-season since it went up $4.5 million from $75 million in 2017-18 to $79.5 million in 2018-19. This means the Canucks will have more to play with, and therefore, could have no other choice than to satisfy the demands of his best forward to keep him in Vancouver for the foreseeable future. Like I predicted, he is trying to go by way of his buddy Bo, he followed the same pattern with contract talks. Wants to Win? Mackinnon? Get real! I knew he was "pouting" lately and not "injured". He was hitting like a pissed off little kid, but not much else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 Trade petey if he gets greedy. We will get a buttload of assets for him. And knowing our new front office, they will get someone that is a bit of a downgrade on petey while getting other important assets. I don't really care if he gets traded any longer. Unlike Miller, if he isn't putting up points he is not doing much other than falling down lol. It will be an interesting couple of months if petey gets too greedy. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 EP 40 for Erickson Ek and Brock Faber EP 40 for zacha and Mcovoy EP 40 at draft for 1st OA and draft Macky C use cap to bolster lineup 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 27 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Like I predicted, he is trying to go by way of his buddy Bo, he followed the same pattern with contract talks. Wants to Win? Mackinnon? Get real! I knew he was "pouting" lately and not "injured". He was hitting like a pissed off little kid, but not much else. 34 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: Elias Pettersson reportedly demands a fortune to stay in Vancouver Will the Canucks sign him to such a contract? HockeyFeed Published 1 day ago Ever since the 2023-24 season got underway, there has been lot of special about star forward Elias Pettersson and his next contract with the Vancouver Canucks. There are many questions about Pettersson’s desire to stay in Vancouver and what it would cost the Canucks to keep the pending restricted free agent. The Canucks have publicly stated more than once that they will do everything in their power to keep Pettersson in Vancouver, but it sounds like they will have to reach deep into their pockets to do so. According to team insider Rick Dhaliwal of The Athletic, Canucks’ management is looking at Boston Bruins’ David Pastrnak’s deal as a comparable in negotiations. You may recall that Pastrnak inked an eight-year contract back in March worth a total of $90 million, an average of $11.25 million per season. The issue is that Pettersson is believed to be asking for more. His specific demands aren’t known and for the moment remain under the radar, but it is believed that Pettersson is hoping to be closer to what was offered to Colorado Avalanche’s Nathan MacKinnon, who became the highest paid player in the entire league with an average salary cap of $12.6 million! Earlier this month, it was confirmed that by commissioner Gary Bettman that the NHL is projecting the salary cap to rise to $87.7 million for next season. The cap, which is expected to rise $4.2 million, has not increased more than $4 million season-over-season since it went up $4.5 million from $75 million in 2017-18 to $79.5 million in 2018-19. This means the Canucks will have more to play with, and therefore, could have no other choice than to satisfy the demands of his best forward to keep him in Vancouver for the foreseeable future. 18 minutes ago, Mac said: Trade petey if he gets greedy. We will get a buttload of assets for him. And knowing our new front office, they will get someone that is a bit of a downgrade on petey while getting other important assets. I don't really care if he gets traded any longer. Unlike Miller, if he isn't putting up points he is not doing much other than falling down lol. It will be an interesting couple of months if petey gets too greedy. If the Nux have been willing to shell out a similar deal as Pasta Man's, and to be at this junction in time with ZERO progress....then "stalling" (greedy) Petey can flack off! Enough of this bullshit already. I'll take the assets and savings from a trade, TYVM! We are a good enough team to carry on without him, just like when we punted BoHo (when many thought we'd be doomed for years haha)....we'll probably be even better off, depending on bodies/assets returned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Sounds like he wants out of he's asking for more than Pasta and MacKinnon. I'm over this situation. Trade him for a haul and move on from this fiasco. I hope this isn't true, but Petey's attitude leans towards real. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I said on page 2 of this thread that this will be a distraction this year. Poster Tas wasn't buying it, but here we are. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sophomore Jinx said: If the Nux have been willing to shell out a similar deal as Pasta Man's, and to be at this junction in time with ZERO progress....then "stalling" (greedy) Petey can flack off! Enough of this bullshit already. I'll take the assets and savings from a trade, TYVM! We are a good enough team to carry on without him, just like when we punted BoHo (when many thought we'd be doomed for years haha)....we'll probably be even better off, depending on bodies/assets returned I was thinking this too, we have been doing pretty good , even during this time he has been pouting. This group has a good track record of accumulating what we need with minimal assets, imagine what they can do with multiple firsts etc ? I knew when they said they were continuing contract talks , with nothing to come of it, and then he started his down slide, something was up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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