Gurn Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Horvat was a 3C for us. Petey is our 1C. Zero chance we trade him. Horvat was a 1 or 2 center for us and Miller or Petey took turns playing the wing. Put down those bottles, they are ruining you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 29 minutes ago, Gurn said: For this year and next year-yes for 2 years after that -maybe for the rest of Miller's contract -probably not. We wont have anything close to the same line up in 4 years so not worried about that far down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, EdgarM said: We wont have anything close to the same line up in 4 years so not worried about that far down the road I expect to still be watching in 4 years, so I'm still concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 56 minutes ago, Alflives said: Horvat was a 3C for us. Petey is our 1C. Zero chance we trade him. C'mon Alf, Horvat was at least a 2C while in Vancouver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: C'mon Alf, Horvat was at least a 2C while in Vancouver The problem was, we had 3 guys who thought they were the #1 center. Everyone thought Miller was the winger. I think maybe Petey might not be that guy(#1 c). Nobody wants to take the bull by the horns to be the undisputed #1 guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Gurn said: Horvat was a 1 or 2 center for us and Miller or Petey took turns playing the wing. Put down those bottles, they are ruining you. Horvat was expendable. He would now be our 3C behind Petey and Miller. Zero chance we trade Petey. He’s irreplaceable. Unlike Horvat who was an extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Horvat was expendable. He would now be our 3C behind Petey and Miller. Zero chance we trade Petey. He’s irreplaceable. Unlike Horvat who was an extra. I wonder if we'd have had conflict between Tocc and Bo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, Coconuts said: C'mon Alf, Horvat was at least a 2C while in Vancouver Now Bo would be our 3C. He’s clearly not as good as either Petey or Miller. He was expendable. Petey is near to impossible to replace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I wonder if we'd have had conflict between Tocc and Bo? With the changes that Boeser made, i would be interested to see what changes Bo could have done. Bo started out his career great, i think he just got too comfortable with the culture that was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 (edited) 15 minutes ago, EdgarM said: The problem was, we had 3 guys who thought they were the #1 center. Everyone thought Miller was the winger. I think maybe Petey might not be that guy(#1 c). Nobody wants to take the bull by the horns to be the undisputed #1 guy. I don't disagree, if management saw Miller as a center instead of a winger it was a position of strength But at the time he wasn't a 3C 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Now Bo would be our 3C. He’s clearly not as good as either Petey or Miller. He was expendable. Petey is near to impossible to replace. Dunno, if one guy were to be slotted back to wing it'd be Miller or Pettersson, if only because of Horvat being strong in the dot Horvat is a top six center, no bones about it, and he's showing that in New York Edited January 6 by Coconuts 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, EdgarM said: With the changes that Boeser made, i would be interested to see what changes Bo could have done. Bo started out his career great, i think he just got too comfortable with the culture that was here. I think thats correct. It would have been interesting to see Bo play physically for a season tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Now Bo would be our 3C. He’s clearly not as good as either Petey or Miller. He was expendable. Petey is near to impossible to replace. Defensively, Bo was better, I would be ok with Miller #1 and Bo #2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I like Quinn as captain way more than Bo, so not gonna even go down that path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Horvat was a 3C for us. Petey is our 1C. Zero chance we trade him. People think they are on the market selling eggs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Lemon Face said: People think they are on the market selling eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 William Nylander $11.5 million for 8 years. Still laughing at the people who thought Petey was going to get less than $10 million. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 hours ago, Alflives said: Now Bo would be our 3C. He’s clearly not as good as either Petey or Miller. He was expendable. Petey is near to impossible to replace. We got a top pairing RHDman for BO. It was a great trade for us. Nobody cares about BO anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 28 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: William Nylander $11.5 million for 8 years. Still laughing at the people who thought Petey was going to get less than $10 million. That can't be... him and petey have a plan to play for the hawks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If W.Nylander gets 11.5 EP should not get more. Anymore would be an overpayment since he so far has only got 100 points once.Make it two if he does this season which looks like he will.12 plus I would trade him and as said the picks can be traded and make the team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, cripplereh said: If W.Nylander gets 11.5 EP should not get more. Anymore would be an overpayment since he so far has only got 100 points once.Make it two if he does this season which looks like he will.12 plus I would trade him and as said the picks can be traded and make the team better. Why? EP40 plays a far more important position on the team - a centreman. If Nylander, a winger, is getting 11.5M over 8 years, then EP40 is worth probably 12M over the same term. Petey's also younger than Nylander. I think Petey signs a deal long term, for 12M. Management can't afford to lose him - that would cripple any chance of a championship. With the cap supposedly rising over the next few years, it should be manageable. Good thing Allvin, Rutherford and the staff are paid good money to figure this stuff out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Wonder when the Nylander domino will fall, you know we're gonna pay for Toronto overpaying their core 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 hours ago, Coconuts said: Wonder when the Nylander domino will fall, you know we're gonna pay for Toronto overpaying their core 4 Not with this management group. They know an overpayment when they see it. Our players will get fair offers according to their play. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Not with this management group. They know an overpayment when they see it. Our players will get fair offers according to their play. Yup. Dumperooed the Fat Wallet and got huge return when he wanted 68 million. Petey is snout winning, unlike the Fat Wallet, and will sign for 4 x 9.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 22 hours ago, cripplereh said: If W.Nylander gets 11.5 EP should not get more. Anymore would be an overpayment since he so far has only got 100 points once.Make it two if he does this season which looks like he will.12 plus I would trade him and as said the picks can be traded and make the team better. Petterson is worth more than Nylander all day everyday. The question is whether Nylander is worth 11.5. Either way, I have a hard time seeing Petey coming in under 12 after this (if the reports on Nylander are correct). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, EdgarM said: Not with this management group. They know an overpayment when they see it. Our players will get fair offers according to their play. I dunno, they've yet to re-sign a bona-fide star of Pettersson's caliber In retrospect the Miller signing looks really good, but Miller supposedly took a bit less and likely opted for security over looking to bet on himself the way Pettersson has Few probably expected Miller to fall off sooner than later, but I do think his contract does factor in a degree of decline in regards to overall cost Management is savvy, but they can't control the prices other GM's set around the league more than any other management group, if Nylander hits a home run financially there absolutely could be implications for Pettersson's next deal How they handle Pettersson now, Boeser sooner than later, and Demko and Hughes down the road will be interesting Edited January 8 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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