Tusk Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I dunno, they've yet to re-sign a bona-fide star of Pettersson's caliber In retrospect the Miller signing looks really good, but Miller supposedly took a bit less and likely opted for security over looking to bet on himself the way Pettersson has Few probably expected Miller to fall off sooner than later, but I do think his contract does factor in a degree of decline in regards to overall cost Management is savvy, but they can't control the prices other GM's set around the league more than any other management group, if Nylander hits a home run financially there absolutely could be implications for Pettersson's next deal How they handle Pettersson now, Boeser sooner than later, and Demko and Hughes down the road will be interesting How Toronto has to eat contracts next summer will be more interesting. How many retention trades allowed? only 3 HA HA HA leafs are leaving the building next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Dizzle said: Petterson is worth more than Nylander all day everyday. The question is whether Nylander is worth 11.5. Either way, I have a hard time seeing Petey coming in under 12 after this (if the reports on Nylander are correct). Well points as is Nylander has more. According to most on here then he should right now get more money. We have not had a real taste of EP in the playoffs, Nylander has been good for the Leafs and that's really when it matters. Way I see it if EP wants 12 plus he needs to get 110 points this year and be a stand out in the playoffs helping us win at least a round. Other wise he is a 10 to 11 mill guy at best. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EdgarM Posted January 8 Popular Post Share Posted January 8 47 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I dunno, they've yet to re-sign a bona-fide star of Pettersson's caliber In retrospect the Miller signing looks really good, but Miller supposedly took a bit less and likely opted for security over looking to bet on himself the way Pettersson has Few probably expected Miller to fall off sooner than later, but I do think his contract does factor in a degree of decline in regards to overall cost Management is savvy, but they can't control the prices other GM's set around the league more than any other management group, if Nylander hits a home run financially there absolutely could be implications for Pettersson's next deal How they handle Pettersson now, Boeser sooner than later, and Demko and Hughes down the road will be interesting Dealing with Bo showed me they will absolutely do whats best for the team. They will not overpay, and if they have to, they will get adequate compensation for our assets. The closer we get to a team like Vegas and farther from a team like Toronto the better, IMHO. I would much rather have less skilled players on the team who want to win, then higher priced players who are more concerned about getting the max amount in their deals. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 36 minutes ago, cripplereh said: Well points as is Nylander has more. According to most on here then he should right now get more money. We have not had a real taste of EP in the playoffs, Nylander has been good for the Leafs and that's really when it matters. Way I see it if EP wants 12 plus he needs to get 110 points this year and be a stand out in the playoffs helping us win at least a round. Other wise he is a 10 to 11 mill guy at best. I agree, I would actually take Willy over the other high paid leafs as he showed up come playoff time. I agree with the numbers for Petey. I would like to see what he can do for us is the playoffs when the real season begins. P.S. The bubble playoffs don't count, I would like to see him when there is real pressure to perform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Petey and Kuz for Crosby and Guentzel. Sign Guentzel, make a run, and then sign a UFA to replace Crosby when he retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnthonyG Posted January 8 Popular Post Share Posted January 8 35 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Petey and Kuz for Crosby and Guentzel. Sign Guentzel, make a run, and then sign a UFA to replace Crosby when he retires 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 50 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Alright, they can add a pick or two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 So, I would say the signing this morning with Toronto, sets an expectation on Pettersson. Is we can do the same, 11.5 million x 8 years, I would just lock it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: So, I would say the signing this morning with Toronto, sets an expectation on Pettersson. Is we can do the same, 11.5 million x 8 years, I would just lock it in. Agreed but I assume EP wants more. I expect current expectation is plus $12M. Hopefully they can get a deal done in the high $11M range so Mgmt can begin locking in other key pieces. The longer EP takes the less time Mgmt has to implement their subsequent plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 20 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: So, I would say the signing this morning with Toronto, sets an expectation on Pettersson. Is we can do the same, 11.5 million x 8 years, I would just lock it in. I believe he already turned down that much, he was reported as looking for the 12.5 range instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 12x8 for Petey. Get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 34 minutes ago, KoreanHockeyFan said: 12x8 for Petey. Get it done. 54 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I believe he already turned down that much, he was reported as looking for the 12.5 range instead. Yeah, Petey's camp is probably looking for $12.5. Canucks and Allvin are probably wanting $11.25 or $11.5M. If it gets done, $12M x 8 will probably be the magic number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, NoCupSyndrome said: Agreed but I assume EP wants more. I expect current expectation is plus $12M. Hopefully they can get a deal done in the high $11M range so Mgmt can begin locking in other key pieces. The longer EP takes the less time Mgmt has to implement their subsequent plans. Personally, I think that 11.5 gets it done, but we shall see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, EdgarM said: I believe he already turned down that much, he was reported as looking for the 12.5 range instead. We don't know what has been offered or what has been turned down or if they are getting into hard numbers. Everything out there is complete speculation by sites that really want everyone to believe that they have insider information that they really do NOT have! If there is one thing I've noticed about this Canucks management group, they are exceptional about playing cards close. They do not release information about salary negotiations or even potential trades, until they are done. They do not negotiate in public, no matter how much sites like Canucks Army and Canucks Daily want everyone to believe so that they can get more clicks on their highly speculative and really inaccurate click bait headlines. Remember what they were bouncing around as potential return to Calgary to acquire Zadorov? Was about 3 - 4 times higher than what we gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Horvat’s 8.5 looking pretty nice right now. Maybe we traded the wrong C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, The Duke said: Horvat’s 8.5 looking pretty nice right now. Maybe we traded the wrong C. Is that wrong C play like real one????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Prob looking at 12 + now.. Edited January 8 by Canuck You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, The Duke said: Horvat’s 8.5 looking pretty nice right now. Maybe we traded the wrong C. Agreed, imagine Bo playing behind Miller and then saving 4 + Million to improve in other areas of the team? Yikes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, The Duke said: Horvat’s 8.5 looking pretty nice right now. Maybe we traded the wrong C. So you'd rather have traded JT Miller? The JT Miller with 53 points in 39 games and 53.9% on FOs? To keep Bo Horvat? The Bo Horvat with 39 points in 38 games and 48.9% on FOs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Canuck You said: Cue the trade proposals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: Cue the trade proposals! "Taj" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 26 minutes ago, The Duke said: Horvat’s 8.5 looking pretty nice right now. Maybe we traded the wrong C. nah, Bo still isn't worth 8.5. Dunno, I think if Petey really wanted to be here long term it would have been done by now. I get the hesitation, its been a shit show under Benning. Interesting days ahead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAA Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Petey wants to be on a winning team, he said so himself. If he thinks Van is or can be a cup contender, he going to have to take a slight discount. You can't tie up majority of the cap on a select few players (like Toronto has done), this leaves no room for the role players and complimentary pieces necessary for playoff and long term success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, HKSR said: So you'd rather have traded JT Miller? The JT Miller with 53 points in 39 games and 53.9% on FOs? To keep Bo Horvat? The Bo Horvat with 39 points in 38 games and 48.9% on FOs? I was making a joke about Petey, actually. As Edgar said, Bo and Miller in the 8s - both at PPG or more - and we’d be laughing. Not that I’m upset or anything, hindsight and all, plus I do believe Petey will be better over the long stretch than either. Just something I noticed. Edited January 9 by The Duke 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, The Duke said: Horvat’s 8.5 looking pretty nice right now. Maybe we traded the wrong C. Wasn’t good enough for us here. Glad he’s doing well 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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