[Trade] Canucks Trade Anthony Beauvillier to Blackhawks for 2024 5th round pick

[NHL97OneTimer]

19 minutes ago, Future Considerations said:

Beauvillier was playing pretty decent with good speed.  Thanks Beau for playing hard and making Chicago see you as a good fit.  

 

Cap space is expensive.  A move Canucks needed to make to try and improve.  

Agree.  He played well for us last year and he wasn't a liability this year.  He was kind of like Tanner Pearson.  You don't mind him being on the team but you always wonder if you should keep spending that money for him.  Sad to send any guy from this team over to Chicago.....who wants to do that to someone......but thanks Beau and good luck. 

[Elias Pettersson]

Guys, we need a LHD right now, not a RHD. Friedman is literally playing the left side. Soucy is out until January. 
 

This is a legit playoff team and Allvin promised them a reward. Zadorov is obviously the reward. Whether you like him or not he is the perfect Soucy replacement. And when Soucy eventually comes back we will have great depth for a playoff run. Cole and Zadorov can both play the right side. 
 

With $4 million in cap space we can trade for Zadorov without having to send any cap back to Calgary. That is huge as they are also capped out. Toronto can’t do that. So we have the advantage. 
 

Hopefully, we can negotiate an extension with Milstein so we are not just getting a rental. 

[stawns]

3 minutes ago, Provost said:

I am not good at trades… but as long as we don’t give up a 1st or a top prospect, I am good.  Zadorov is a complementary player and not a guy you throw a lot of assets at to be a rental.

 

He may be overpriced and not worth what Calgary is demanding.

 

I am not high on Raty as he doesn’t seem to be a stylistic fit to the way we want to play.  I would move him for Zadorov.

 

 

Raty is probably the best player in Abby over the last 10 games and the only real depth they have at C

[aGENT]

1 minute ago, EdgarM said:

I don't think we did this move to add "depth". 

 

Why not both? 

[Tusk]

Just now, VegasCanuck said:

Aman wouldn't require waivers, he hasn't been up long enough. 

He hit 10 games. doesnt matter over how many seasons. We would have lost him. Now Aman is set for season... Im personally ok with that over mr Bequ

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Tusk said:

No its not real! unless you dont want Soucy back.

thats 3 mil of your bucket of gold

 

Yes we just gained a huge victory in dumping Beau if that happened but its kinda fools gold because you also gotta put someone in.

Not really. Beau is replaced by Aman. That’s a cap difference of 3.3 mil. Huge win for us. What are you thinking? 

[stawns]

Just now, Elias Pettersson said:

Guys, we need a LHD right now, not a RHD. Friedman is literally playing the left side. Soucy is out until January. 
 

This is a legit playoff team and Allvin promised them a reward. Zadorov is obviously the reward. Whether you like him or not he is the perfect Soucy replacement. And when Soucy eventually comes back we will have great depth for a playoff run. Cole and Zadorov can both play the right side. 
 

With $4 million in cap space we can trade for Zadorov without having to send any cap back to Calgary. That is huge as they are also capped out. Toronto can’t do that. So we have the advantage. 
 

Hopefully, we can negotiate an extension with Milstein so we are not just getting a rental. 

 

I doubt Calgary is in sell mode now that they are playing well and trending well.  They certainly aren't trading him to the division rival they're trying to chase down

[stawns]

Just now, Tusk said:

He hit 10 games. doesnt matter over how many seasons. We would have lost him. Now Aman is set for season... Im personally ok with that over mr Bequ

 

He has 30 days before he requires waivers going back down.

[Hammertime]

I knew I liked Bedards mom. 

[Rocket-68]

For those thinking 5th rounds picks are nothing, a bit of history ... yes you still have to make the pick

 

1. Minnesota Wild ... Kirill Kaprizov, 5th (135), 2015

2. Winnipeg Jets ... Connor Hellebuyck, 5th (130), 2012

3. Ottawa Senators ... Mark Stone, 6th (178), 2010

4. Carolina Hurricanes ... Frederik Andersen, 7th (187), 2010

5. San Jose Sharks ... Joe Pavelski, 7th (205), 2003

6. Dallas Stars ... Jamie Benn, 5th (129), 2007

7. Tampa Bay Lightning ... Ondrej Palat, 7th (208), 2011

8. Columbus Blue Jackets ... Cam Atkinson, 6th (157), 2008

9. Calgary Flames ... Andrew Mangiapane, 6th (166), 2015

10. Florida Panthers ... Mackenzie Weegar, 7th (206), 2013

11. Pittsburgh Penguins ... Jake Muzzin, 5th (141), 2007

12. New York Islanders ... Anders Lee, 6th (152), 2009

13. Montreal Canadiens ... Brendan Gallagher, 5th (147), 2010

14. Arizona Coyotes ... Conor Garland, 5th (123), 2015

15. Buffalo Sabres ... Victor Olofsson, 7th (181), 2014

16. Nashville Predators ... Patric Hornqvist, 7th (230), 2005

17. Philadelphia Flyers ... Patrick Maroon, 6th (161), 2007

18. Toronto Maple Leafs ... Anton Stralman, 7th (216), 2005

19. Detroit Red Wings ... Nick Jensen, 5th (150), 2009

20. Los Angeles Kings ... Matt Roy, 7th (194), 2015

21. Boston Bruins ... Nate Thompson, 6th (183), 2003

22. Colorado Avalanche ... Brad Richardson, 5th (163), 2003

23. New York Rangers ... Carl Hagelin, 6th (168), 2007

30. Vancouver Canucks ... Ben Hutton, 5th (147), 2012

 

... to name a few, there are a lot more 

 

31. Detroit Red Wings ... Henrik Zetterberg, 7th (210), 1999

 

...

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Rocket-68

[VegasCanuck]

6 minutes ago, RinkonRenfrew said:

The team is a little worse without Beau, but should be better once his salary is reallocated.  I’m very happy to see us dump him and a little surprised he had positive trade value. Nothing against him - enjoyed watching him play here and wish him all the best.

 

He isn’t a top 6 player on a good team, and his salary and style make him a bad fit for a bottom six role. He’ll get a better chance in Chi and wherever he goes at the tdl to show off his skills and earn his next contract. Win-win trade.

 

I am warming up to PA. Good job building support for the core and not afraid to move on quickly when his moves don’t work out. Really appreciate that he doesn’t mind looking silly calling Beau ‘like a first round pick’ when we got him, and dumping him for nothing a few months later.

Beauvillier wasn't playing a natural position on the 4th line. Ultimately, although it's a net loss on overall skill, it's realistically an upgrade on defensive coverage with Aman without really sacrificing production you would expect from the 4th line. If we can add Zadorov or Bear, we have a fairly significant net gain on the team as a whole.

[4petesake]

4 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

I feel like people forget what Bear was........it definitely was not a top 4 dman

I kind of doubt Bear in the top 4 is the prize PA has his eyes on from this trade.

[Tusk]

Watching game leave me the fuck alone youre as bad as my wife you people

[Canuck You]

Man , 5th is kinda low..dude is serviceable!

[Miss Korea]

58 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

Hronek, Ratu, 5th for Bo. Nice.

 

We need to re-sign that fucker ASAP.  $6.5M x 8 years.  If he keeps this up he will cost even more.

[aGENT]

Just now, 4petesake said:

I kind of doubt Bear in the top 4 is the prize PA has his eyes on from this trade.

 

Might free up some cap to add him in ~1 month...but I agree, we're still hunting bigger game. I'd add both if I was managing.

[EdgarM]

1 minute ago, aGENT said:

 

Why not both? 

Why not aim your expectations higher? 

[stawns]

1 minute ago, Rocket-68 said:

For those thinking 5th rounds picks are nothing, a bit of history ... yes you still have to make the pick

 

1. Minnesota Wild ... Kirill Kaprizov, 5th (135), 2015

2. Winnipeg Jets ... Connor Hellebuyck, 5th (130), 2012

3. Ottawa Senators ... Mark Stone, 6th (178), 2010

4. Carolina Hurricanes ... Frederik Andersen, 7th (187), 2010

5. San Jose Sharks ... Joe Pavelski, 7th (205), 2003

6. Dallas Stars ... Jamie Benn, 5th (129), 2007

7. Tampa Bay Lightning ... Ondrej Palat, 7th (208), 2011

8. Columbus Blue Jackets ... Cam Atkinson, 6th (157), 2008

9. Calgary Flames ... Andrew Mangiapane, 6th (166), 2015

10. Florida Panthers ... Mackenzie Weegar, 7th (206), 2013

11. Pittsburgh Penguins ... Jake Muzzin, 5th (141), 2007

12. New York Islanders ... Anders Lee, 6th (152), 2009

13. Montreal Canadiens ... Brendan Gallagher, 5th (147), 2010

14. Arizona Coyotes ... Conor Garland, 5th (123), 2015

15. Buffalo Sabres ... Victor Olofsson, 7th (181), 2014

16. Nashville Predators ... Patric Hornqvist, 7th (230), 2005

17. Philadelphia Flyers ... Patrick Maroon, 6th (161), 2007

18. Toronto Maple Leafs ... Anton Stralman, 7th (216), 2005

19. Detroit Red Wings ... Nick Jensen, 5th (150), 2009

20. Los Angeles Kings ... Matt Roy, 7th (194), 2015

21. Boston Bruins ... Nate Thompson, 6th (183), 2003

22. Colorado Avalanche ... Brad Richardson, 5th (163), 2003

23. New York Rangers ... Carl Hagelin, 6th (168), 2007

30. Vancouver Canucks ... Ben Hutton, 5th (147), 2012

 

... to name a few, there are a lot more 

 

31. Detroit Red Wings ... Henrik Zetterberg, 7th (210), 1999

 

...

 

It's still almost a mathematical certainty that whoever is picked in that spot won't ever play an NHL game

[Olli Juolevi]

19 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said:

Lol....a 1st rounder

If you read the topic I made a week or two ago, you'll see that I explained each (including Beauvillier) player's trade value in excruciating detail. 

[drdeath]

This trade seems like a win win win. 
 

Canucks get free cap space without giving anything up to do it. Amazing 

 

Beau gets a chance to play more minutes and showcase himself for a possible move to another playoff team. 
 

Chicago could potentially turn their 5th round pick into a 4th or maybe even more at the deadline and if they do, good for them!

[SilentSam]

51 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

The 5th rounder is conditional.. 650SN

 

So most likely we won't get 5th..

 

Who cares about the 5th...

 

Thanks to Correy Perry we got rid of the cap for free..

watch it all go to arbitration..   

 

Never heard about how E Kanes situation with The Sharks was settled,.  But it was settled out of court I believe ?

[Rip The Mesh]

Mighty nice of them to have the artwork done already;

 

[Provost]

2 minutes ago, Tusk said:

No its not real! unless you dont want Soucy back.

thats 3 mil of your bucket of gold

 

Yes we just gained a huge victory in dumping Beau if that happened but its kinda fools gold because you also gotta put someone in.

You are holding on really tight to being wrong…

 

If you add Soucy back you get to demote the player in his roster spot…. That adds another million to cap space.  Soucy coming back just uses a little over $2 million of that $5.7 million in space, depending on who is demoted, leaving about $3.5 million in space.

 

If you bring in a player in trade for $4 million, they push another player out of the lineup so you have that $3.5 million PLUS the almost $1 million of the person who gets moved out of the lineup… so you still have room for the new player.

 

Moving out Beauvillier frees up $4 million in cap.  There is no made up math you can invent that changes that.  We had cap space to fit everyone except Poolman under the cap… so now we have $4 million space, fairly simple.  We can add a player with about a $4 million salary without even considering who might go the other way.

 

 

 

 

[OldFaithfulcap]

Never really worked out. Shame as he had a good playoff stats and would have been handy there but never really fit as either a grinder or scorer here.

 

Cap space is golden though.

 

Bye new beau

Edited November 29, 2023 by OldFaithfulcap
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[WHL rocks]

3 minutes ago, Tusk said:

He hit 10 games. doesnt matter over how many seasons. We would have lost him. Now Aman is set for season... Im personally ok with that over mr Bequ

Bro you keep making all these posts about the salary cap and waivers. 

 

Clearly you are not knowledgeable on these topics and for a lot of other posters that might have limited knowledge like your self you are causing confusion for them..

 

Multiple posters have corrected your misinformation posts. Please try not to make so many posts on these issues as stating facts.  

 

Perhaps pist them as questions. Lots of guys on here know the details they'll answer your questions. 

 

Thanks.