[PGT] Vancouver vs. Anaheim

[Cocanuck]

I dont think jt is really getting enough credit for how good a playmaker and passer he is..  he forchecks, wins battles and is clearly a play maker !!  Wonderful to have two centers like him and petey!!   

[Steamer4GM]

4 hours ago, iinatcc said:

 

Seems like every team struggling find their groove after beating Vancouver? Leafs, Flames, and Sharks.

Or maybe teams that have beaten Vancouver just as they’ve begun to find their groove

[Cuzzizzle]

10 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said:

Respectfully disagree. Been watching the Canucks since day one. Finishers like Brock don’t come along very often. 
Yoo don’t just trade them because they don’t “ drive play”. All three forwards don’t have to do that. You need a playmaker, finisher, and puck hunter. 
Brock is the finisher. He doesn’t need to drive play.

 

We will see, I don’t think he’ll be around for too many more seasons. The goals he scores a lot of people put in his position could do the same. Don’t get me wrong, he’s playing better than he has.. but his game has so many flaws.  He has 17 goals, Zach Hyman has 12. Neither of these players are as good as the players they’re around in the goal scoring list. He could have even more goals if he could ever cleanly one time all the times they try to set him up, but nope it’s empty netters and rebounds.

 

 

[Cuzzizzle]

Just now, Cocanuck said:

I dont think jt is really getting enough credit for how good a playmaker and passer he is..  he forchecks, wins battles and is clearly a play maker !!  Wonderful to have two centers like him and petey!!   

That I can agree with.. having Miller and Petey is such a luxury. Miller really does do it all, he’s a beast and can absolutely rip the puck.

[Rip The Mesh]

Some of the more notable excerpts from Rick's post game;

Ducks were in a bad mood after losing to Edmonton, they came out hard.

Brock deserves to be where he is / in all pressure situations.

We played better in the third.  Before that, we were hanging on to the puck too much,

Rick openly talks about the extra additional cap space we have now.

Miseys playing great. Always aware what's going on. Moving the puck quickly.

Petey hits better then I did when I was playing, love his unique style. The backing in

is great!

 

 

 

[Johngould21]

If IM is out for a bit, is it time to move Hoglander up to EP's line? That kid deserves a shot, he's playing his guts out, as is Garland.

[IBatch]

3 hours ago, Cuzzizzle said:

Brock’s start to this season is best case scenario for us. His trade value will never be higher and in my opinion he is still a 6-7 million dollar player max. He can score all the empty net, tap ins he wants but he creates absolutely ZERO on his own. All the power to him for having the goal scoring start he’s having, but if we don’t move him now it’s a big mistake. 

Nice troll post.   When did you start watching hockey?   Maybe when you were five you saw Higgins play and thought he was amazing.   I'd say Tyler Toffoli.   Is he why you're so upset?   Like a certain group of this fanbase that wanted to just give up on the Calder winner who, with context, didn't have an easy go of his career...Brock wasn't a pussy-cat in the playoffs, took some solid hits to make good plays.   Toffoli was though, ran away from the boards and didn't do much other then sneak into a scoring spot because well he's not good at board battles.     

 

Creates zero on his own.   Wow.   Brock is a good passer.   He backchecks.   No he's not fast but he's not slow either.   Funny how the new toy Kuzmenko is the one been benched.   Brock had to endure the likes of Dries.    Not that i don't Kuzmenko either.    Brock and Miller.   You think Miller is doing it all I guess.  
 

As for board battles.   They keep stats on those.   Take a look.   I dare you.  

[wai_lai416]

1 hour ago, Rip The Mesh said:

I could look at this all day. He's going to have to perfect the delivery to keep the bad guy's down but if this is the new Petey, we'd be in fine shape.

Ya I rather not.. EP will eventually have a target on the back of his head. His hits have been great but it’s usually on unsuspecting player on walks on the borderline. If he’s going to be throwing out hits like this. It’s only a matter when someone else returns the favour. That hit last night almost turned out to be a disaster. He was lucky his skate hit him in the helmet instead of a few inches down

[Hairy Kneel]

Brock's doing everything we've always wanted him to to. Score and play a responsible 200 foot game. Now we want to minimize his accomplishments?

Such a sketchy, changing the goal post response. Let him be. Keep going Boes!

[-dlc-]

I really loved it when Miller came up into the stand in his skates to fist bump me and tell me I'm the best fan ever in the whole wide world, "good game".

Wat? It's real.

 

 

[-dlc-]

12 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

Ya I rather not.. EP will eventually have a target on the back of his head. His hits have been great but it’s usually on unsuspecting player on walks on the borderline. If he’s going to be throwing out hits like this. It’s only a matter when someone else returns the favour. That hit last night almost turned out to be a disaster. He was lucky his skate hit him in the helmet instead of a few inches down

You're wrong though....often, the hits are him going back at someone so they should be some what expected.

 

I don't want him to change that element of his game...especially if he's not on the scoresheet, it keeps him engaged. I think it sends a message too....he's no pushover. He HAS been targeted in the past so him showing he's not going to shy away is a good statement.

 

Also, I have to give a shout out to Hronek. Not for anything special but, for me, he evokes the opposite reaction from me than Myers. I hold my breath and shut my eyes with Myers but I have a calm confidence in Hronek. I like Myers, I want to support him but that penalty he took was just another "why'd you do that?" moment. 

[PistolPete13]

28 minutes ago, Cuzzizzle said:

We will see, I don’t think he’ll be around for too many more seasons. The goals he scores a lot of people put in his position could do the same. Don’t get me wrong, he’s playing better than he has.. but his game has so many flaws.  He has 17 goals, Zach Hyman has 12. Neither of these players are as good as the players they’re around in the goal scoring list. He could have even more goals if he could ever cleanly one time all the times they try to set him up, but nope it’s empty netters and rebounds.

 

 

I’ll just keep celebrating the goals and the wins. 

[JayDangles]

25 minutes ago, Johngould21 said:

If IM is out for a bit, is it time to move Hoglander up to EP's line? That kid deserves a shot, he's playing his guts out, as is Garland.

Hogz should actually go with Miller and Boes. He had 1 shift with them last night in the 3rd and was awesome.

I'd like to try Garland with Petey. Garland is a bit more shifty and seems to have more play making craftiness. Just zero finish. His ability to create turnovers in the offensive zone would be huge for Petey and Kuz

[wai_lai416]

8 minutes ago, -dlc- said:

You're wrong though....often, the hits are him going back at someone so they should be some what expected.

 

I don't want him to change that element of his game...especially if he's not on the scoresheet, it keeps him engaged. I think it sends a message too....he's no pushover. He HAS been targeted in the past so him showing he's not going to shy away is a good statement.

 

Also, I have to give a shout out to Hronek. Not for anything special but, for me, he evokes the opposite reaction from me than Myers. I hold my breath and shut my eyes with Myers but I have a calm confidence in Hronek. I like Myers, I want to support him but that penalty he took was just another "why'd you do that?" moment. 

Again I don’t mind ep hitting. But all and most of his hits are on unsuspecting player in a borderline vulnerable position. I don’t mind him hitting people with a nice clean shoulder check. Every check doesn’t need to have the intent on sending the other guy flying. He’s not mcdavid the league isn’t going to protect him like they do with mcdavid. He keeps throwing out these “big hit” eventually some borderline player will return a “big hit” last thing we need. 

[-dlc-]

4 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

Again I don’t mind ep hitting. But all and most of his hits are on unsuspecting player in a borderline vulnerable position. I don’t mind him hitting people with a nice clean shoulder check. Every check doesn’t need to have the intent on sending the other guy flying. He’s not mcdavid the league isn’t going to protect him like they do with mcdavid. He keeps throwing out these “big hit” eventually some borderline player will return a “big hit” last thing we need. 

That's playing scared of the big bad wolves out there.

 

I get your point, but don't agree. He was thrown, WWE style, to the ice by someone targeting him who didn't have the skill to beat him fair and square. You see it as him giving them reason to (go after him). As one of the league's best, they already have reason....that reason. So him showing a bit of strength, resiliency and a lack of fear plays into his favour in my view.

 

You're making his hits sound "dirty" but he's actually often on the receiving end of those hits (already). So tit for tat stuff.

 

I don't think people will target him less if he lays low. He's a great player and has been targeted since day one. Now he's just pushing back. And it appears to be a very natural instinct/reaction. I love his feisty side that we're seeing. Our entire team has to have that.

[Attila Umbrus]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Mik is one tough guy. He will play through this. And play good too. 

I hope your right Alf, he is a tough guy, no questions there. Just worry about the accuracy of our medical staff some days. Hopefully swelling goes down, get a second image of the knee to really tell then get positive news from there. 

[Jaimito]

 

PA will do media today. 

[PhillipBlunt]

Just now, -dlc- said:

That's playing scared of the big bad wolves out there.

 

I get your point, but don't agree. He was thrown, WWE style, to the ice by someone targeting him who didn't have the skill to beat him fair and square. You see it as him giving them reason to (go after him). As one of the league's best, they already have reason....that reason. So him showing a bit of strength, resiliency and a lack of fear plays into his favour in my view.

 

You're making his hits sound "dirty" but he's actually often on the receiving end of those hits (already). So tit for tat stuff.

 

I don't think people will target him less if he lays low. He's a great player and has been targeted since day one. Now he's just pushing back.

Agreed. He's shown that he can take a hit as well as he can throw it. Pettersson isn't a cheap player and doesn't try to shield himself from the rough stuff. 

 

So that wasn't you by the Ducks penalty box yesterday?

[Darius]

32 minutes ago, Cuzzizzle said:

We will see, I don’t think he’ll be around for too many more seasons. The goals he scores a lot of people put in his position could do the same. Don’t get me wrong, he’s playing better than he has.. but his game has so many flaws.  He has 17 goals, Zach Hyman has 12. Neither of these players are as good as the players they’re around in the goal scoring list. He could have even more goals if he could ever cleanly one time all the times they try to set him up, but nope it’s empty netters and rebounds.

 

 

I love it when posters minimize Brock's accomplishments by saying "put anyone in his spot, they can score the same".

 

Lets look at the stats since his first full season 2017-2018.  Brock ranks 12th in goal scoring for Right Wingers in the whole of the NHL.  Thats top line goal scoring production you would think.  Of course, he is just lucky right?  He is 2 goals behind guys like Giroux and Toffoli who have played like 50 more games than him, 2 goals back of the great Mitch Marner, who has played 38 more games than him.     He is about to leap over a bunch of guys in this list IMHO, while playing fewer games.  But of course any average hack could continue to do this over the long term with tap ins, empty netters lol

 

 

 

 

[PhillipBlunt]

Just now, Jaimito said:

 

PA will do media today. 

He'll talk about the Beaulivier trade and the one he's making today for the defenseman coming back. 

[-dlc-]

2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Agreed. He's shown that he can take a hit as well as he can throw it. Pettersson isn't a cheap player and doesn't try to shield himself from the rough stuff. 

 

So that wasn't you by the Ducks penalty box yesterday?

It was not. But she's probably a cousin I didn't know about.

[PhillipBlunt]

1 minute ago, -dlc- said:

It was not. But she's probably a cousin I didn't know about.

Fair enough. Having around 40 cousins, I hear you. 

[greenbean30]

2 hours ago, stawns said:

 

The problem is, when they have possession time they're not getting shots or scoring chances 

I agree 100%, we were afraid to shoot the puck or take it to the net in the first period. And that's been happening a lot lately in the last 10 games. Need to get back to driving the net and shooting like we were in the first 13 games.

[-dlc-]

14 minutes ago, Darius said:

I love it when posters minimize Brock's accomplishments by saying "put anyone in his spot, they can score the same".

Me too.

 

"His spot" when he scored isn't an easy spot to hang out at. Sort of mosh pit meets meat grinder at times. This was his "easy" goal last night (photo courtesy of Jeff Vinnick)

 

Remember, he's had a back injury (etc) and could very well avoid taking punishment and the front of the net/slot area. In order to be the recipient of those goals (whether by rebounds or beautiful passes), you have to place yourself there.

[Jaimito]

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