RU SERIOUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Embarrassing game tonight. Like the Canucks of old. If the start was just mirage it might be time to change the logo 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Good point… I’m sure he cares but he says a lot of things… He said before the game that there’s still a lot of hockey to play in this year this is just another game… That is a losers mentality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Pettersson and Miller should be on a line together. I think it's time to see the Lotto line back together. Petey Kuz and Mik isn't working. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, Lemon Face said: Just trust the proces Ya step by step Rome wasnt built in a day been waiting for way too long my nerves are shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Kragar said: Fancy crystal ball you have there. Do poor defensive teams win in the playoffs Ask EDM or Tor 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, AlwaysACanuckFan said: I think it's time to see the Lotto line back together. Petey Kuz and Mik isn't working. Too soft - they need grit on that line 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Kragar said: Fancy crystal ball you have there. And in a two weeks will come back and say how stupid he was.Ready to eat crow,bla blah.Never learn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, CanuckFanForever said: That is a losers mentality Ya it sure surprised me… this was such a hyped game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Starting to lose a bit of confidence tbh. We'll see how they respond on Saturday but they seem to be clearly lacking against top team (expected to some extent), but even against lesser teams can't put together a full effort anymore. I have alot of faith in Tocchet but to see this team consistently fall apart when met with a bit adversity is very discouraging, don't think they've had 1 significant comeback win this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: I don't understand how people are blaming the core Miller and Pettersson in particular. The team structure comes from the Coach Maybe because the team is in its 3rd coach in 3 years. how many times are we going to keep blaming the coach and not the core? You know the old saying If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quack likes a duck ... basically at this point this team is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: Because the Defensive Structure has never been fixed. Scoring hides a lot from fans but if you played this game in the higher tiers you could see this coming a mile away. Still missing 2 more tier 2 defensmen. I'm not expecting Zadorov to be the answer as he only play 12-15 miniutes on average per game and is a 3rd liner D, but he should be better that Jewelson or FriedMan so it should help somewhat and is a move in the right direction - but slightly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: JR and AV has already made 11 roster regular changes only the core remain. So who needs to go Miller, Pettersson, Hughes, Demko who. Myers I will give you but who else. If you start naming JR an AV players they brought in we are having a different discussing We need to add a top 4 D that can eat 20+ minutes at a high level. We got two right now. We need to add a top 6 forward that brings elements we lack and can help elevate the core. We need 2-3 better bottom 6 forwards. Some speed, size, bite , heart, pushback. If they had the cap they would have done a whole lot more. They are restricted because of our cap situation. That’s why management had tempered expectations going into the year. That’s why I said next year will also be a big year as they will probably continue to try and add pieces they feel fit. Once they get players that fit in better and help round the roster a coach can work magic. Right now we gotta bunch of puzzle pieces that don’t fit together. Team composition and more talent. That won’t happen till we got cap so it’s a waiting game. So far they’ve made some good additions but they’ll need to continue to do so. There’s a lot of work ahead. Edited December 1, 2023 by Junkyard Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Ya step by step Rome wasnt built in a day been waiting for way too long my nerves are shot Find Alff and his empties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Lemon Face said: And in a two weeks will come back and say how stupid he was.Ready to eat crow,bla blah.Never learn I will admit when I'm wrong when the Canucks go to the Second round of the playoffs. But right now the first round goes through LA or Vegas. We aren't making the second round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Lemon Face said: Find Alff and his empties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: We need to add a top 4 D that can eat 20+ minutes at a high level. We got two right now. We need to add a top 6 forward that brings elements we lack and can help elevate the core. We need 2-3 better bottom 6 forwards. Some speed, size, bite , heart, pushback. If they had the cap they would have done a whole lot more. They are restricted because of our cap situation. That’s why management had tempered expectations going into the year. That’s why I said next year will also be a big year as they will probably continue to try and add pieces they feel fit. Once they get players that fit in better and help round the roster a coach can work magic. Right now we gotta bunch of puzzle pieces that don’t fit together. Team composition and more talent. That won’t happen till we got cap so it’s a waiting game. So far they’ve made some good additions but they’ll need to continue to do so. There’s a lot of work ahead. Who do they replace. Which players currently on the roster goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: No playoff success. Is that what you want from the Canucks. Because with Tocchet that is what you are going to get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Every game is like a new condensed season in here. Lol. This game doesn’t mean shit. It’s Nov 30th. go to bed. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Buzzsaw- Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I don't know why people are so surprised and upset. Every building contender goes through this. It is very common for younger teams on the cusp to come out of the gate really fast, then slow down. As others have said, this team is miles better than it was last season or the seasons before... when Markstrom or Demko had to stand on their head for the team to win. I expect this team to make the playoffs, but likely they won't finish top of the division... or even second, not with Vegas and LA in the division. I would be happy if they finish third... but they may need to do it the Wild Card route. Team needed defense improvements... size and skill... now they have Zadorov... lets hope Foote and Goncharev can teach him positioning and discipline. If that happens, the team will improve. And we need to have more defensive discipline at the front of the net and better control of the boards. They also need more speed and size up front... when I was watching this game the thing I noticed was how quickly the Vegas players caught up to the Canuck forwards on the backcheck... Vegas has a fast team. So either the Canucks get more speed, or they start to work on their passing game so they can use puck movement to accelerate the attack. Overall I am happy with the progress of the team this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, CanuckFanForever said: Do poor defensive teams win in the playoffs Ask EDM or Tor Wait, I thought you were bitching about the coach? Now you are moving to the D? Better stop chasing the rotgut with Red Bulls. All that anger boosted with energy ain't a great mix. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Petey is beaten up.. he might be too frail for the NHL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 PDG needs to sit. He does nothing. Nice story out of training camp but 0 offensive capabilities and is soft. Doesn't hit doesnt fight. Needs to know what he's here. Soft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RU SERIOUS said: Still missing 2 more tier 2 defensmen. I'm not expecting Zadorov to be the answer as he only play 12-15 miniutes on average per game and is a 3rd liner D, but he should be better that Jewelson or FriedMan so it should help somewhat and is a move in the right direction - but slightly. Agree with this, Juulsen Friedman in the lineup forces Myers to play more...its not a recipe for success when half the D is suspect. Getting a couple legit NHL regulars back into the lineup will settle the D down and will help Myers ...if he is in a limited role he actually is not that bad. IMHO its unrealistic to expect this team to beat up on the top tier NHL teams with this sort of hole in the lineup right now. I wont even get into the fact that one of the top 2 lines looks like it has no chemistry and isnt doing much. Some big disadvantages that make it hard to keep up with the better teams. The star players can probably overcome these holes against avereage/below average teams but it will be hard to beat the Colorado/Vegas type teams till they get healthy on the back end and figure out whats going on with EP's line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: We need to add a top 4 D that can eat 20+ minutes at a high level. We got two right now. We need to add a top 6 forward that brings elements we lack and can help elevate the core. We need 2-3 better bottom 6 forwards. Some speed, size, bite , heart, pushback. If they had the cap they would have done a whole lot more. They are restricted because of our cap situation. That’s why management had tempered expectations going into the year. That’s why I said next year will also be a big year as they will probably continue to try and add pieces they feel fit. Once they get players that fit in better and help round the roster a coach can work magic. Right now we gotta bunch of puzzle pieces that don’t fit together. Team composition and more talent. That won’t happen till we got cap so it’s a waiting game. So far they’ve made some good additions but they’ll need to continue to do so. There’s a lot of work ahead. SO in you mind good coaches can only work "magic" when things are perfect. Vegas is missing there top d-MAN AND THEIR #3 D-MAN. They ran over us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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