HKSR Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 To VAN: Josh Norris Artem Zub To OTT: Elias Pettersson Tyler Myers ($1M retained by VAN) Filip Johansson OTT does this as Petey is a solid upgrade on Norris. Gives them a 1-2 punch of Petey and Stutzle down the middle for the next decade. They also acquire a very good prospect in Johansson for development (not far off from NHL services IMO). Myers moved for cap purposes, but gives them a usable RHD for the remainder of this season. VAN acquires a very good and young centreman, likely more of a top tier 2C that can play behind Miller. He's also locked in for the long term. Artem Zub gives the Canucks the solid 2nd pair RHD they desperately need right now. The new Tanev for the Canucks. Defensively one of the best. Hoglander-Miller-Boeser Mikheyev-Norris-Kuzmenko Garland-Suter-Joshua Aman-Blueger-Lafferty Hughes-Hronek Zadorov-Zub Soucy-Juulsen/Friedman/Bear (if we sign him) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Brady or bust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeremy Hronek Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, HKSR said: To VAN: Josh Norris Artem Zub To OTT: Elias Pettersson Tyler Myers ($1M retained by VAN) Filip Johansson OTT does this as Petey is a solid upgrade on Norris. Gives them a 1-2 punch of Petey and Stutzle down the middle for the next decade. They also acquire a very good prospect in Johansson for development (not far off from NHL services IMO). Myers moved for cap purposes, but gives them a usable RHD for the remainder of this season. VAN acquires a very good and young centreman, likely more of a top tier 2C that can play behind Miller. He's also locked in for the long term. Artem Zub gives the Canucks the solid 2nd pair RHD they desperately need right now. The new Tanev for the Canucks. Defensively one of the best. Hoglander-Miller-Boeser Mikheyev-Norris-Kuzmenko Garland-Suter-Joshua Aman-Blueger-Lafferty Hughes-Hronek Zadorov-Zub Soucy-Juulsen/Friedman/Bear (if we sign him) You know what's funny? I was actually on the verge of creating a "Pettersson proposal idea" thread earlier today but then deleted it half-way because I didn't think it would fly on here. With my Laine idea in another thread, I wanted to limit my shitty ideas and so I deleted half-way. But - having said that, I like your thought process a lot. Like you said, Norris is signed long term to a good cap hit. My concern with Pettersson is that if he 'strikes gold' this off-season and gets something north of 11 million, it will be difficult for the Canucks to build depth in their line-up.....the type of depth that wins you a cup (see Chicago, LA, and Pittsburgh from 2010-2017). All of those teams had relative low C.H% to their top players which allowed these teams to invest heavier in depth. Ditto for both Boston and Vancouver in 2011. The proposal I had in mind from earlier today was Cozens and Power from Buffalo, but your proposal is probably more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman955 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Ottawa knows what they have in Norris. They were all in on his recovery. Zub on the other hand will not be moving on , he has found himself in his role. the buffalo senario makes more sense for our need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Getting rid of a Selke, Hart, Art Ross level player for a 2nd line center that has never shown he can play in an actual system, and is coming off a year-long rehabilitation process on his shoulder (of all lingering injuries to have). Maybe if you had 2 unprotected 1st round picks, the value might be relatively closer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Long said: Brady or bust. Problem is then we have only Miller as a decent centre right now? Brady is awesome. But we'd need an NHL ready centre too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The idea is to not sell players when you think their value is at their absolute lowest. Dude falls into a slump and you want to dump him for a 2nd line centre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Dude falls into a slump and you want to dump him for a 2nd line centre? So 34 points in 26 games is a slump? At the pace he is putting up points, he would finish this season with 107 points. And yet there are people who want to trade him. WTF more does a guy have to do to be left tf alone? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Curmudgeon said: So 34 points in 26 games is a slump? At the pace he is putting up points, he would finish this season with 107 points. And yet there are people who want to trade him. WTF more does a guy have to do to be left tf alone? But panic is cool isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: So 34 points in 26 games is a slump? At the pace he is putting up points, he would finish this season with 107 points. And yet there are people who want to trade him. WTF more does a guy have to do to be left tf alone? Oh yeah, he's definitely in a mini slump. Not sure why you're assessing his production for the entire season. The Canucks we saw during the first 15 games are not the same as the team we've watched the last 10. 10 points in the last 13 games, and hasn't looked very effective in that span either. Have you been actually watching the games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 You guys do realize Artem Zub is in that package too right? Arguably one of the best defensive defencemen in the entire NHL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: You guys do realize Artem Zub is in that package too right? Arguably one of the best defensive defencemen in the entire NHL... Yeah, but Ottawa doesn't need Pettersson when they have not only Norris, but a legit top line stud in Stutzle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) Ottawa's 6th in goals scored, their biggest issue is their PK and their goals allowed, removing one of their best locked in D isn't going to help shore up their weaknesses Edited December 6, 2023 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Ottawa's also a .500 team with the least amount of games played in the league at 20, they still have room to turn their season around, particularly if they can get Chabot back sooner than later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Probably the only player I'd be real happy with in a trade for Petey is Leo Carlsson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Probably the only player I'd be real happy with in a trade for Petey is Leo Carlsson.... J. Hughes 1 for 1 would be nice, they wont do that as they are S M R T and locked him up to an 8yr 8m deal...Canucks chose a 3yr 7.35m deal instead cause they went out and added Schmidt before locking up your teams TOP 2 young guns and now we are gonna pay the price if and when EP signs a deal his cap hit will be 3-4m higher than J. Hughes...he ain't worth that much more but this is what happens when you have the WORST GM in Canucks history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: 10 points in the last 13 games, and hasn't looked very effective in that span either. Have you been actually watching the games? Some players would kill for a slump like 10 points in 13 games, and others might consider it very effective. Yes, Petey is struggling, but to say he has been ineffective isn't correct. And when you ask if I am watching the games, which I am, are you trying to imply that I am stupid, blind, ignorant or not as wise as you? What would "effective" look like to you? Three points every game? Total domination in every aspect of the game? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Some players would kill for a slump like 10 points in 13 games, and others might consider it very effective. Yes, Petey is struggling, but to say he has been ineffective isn't correct. And when you ask if I am watching the games, which I am, are you trying to imply that I am stupid, blind, ignorant or not as wise as you? What would "effective" look like to you? Three points every game? Total domination in every aspect of the game? What? Just better to use that special feature on this website called ignore to users like this...they seem to have nothing better to do, I just ignore them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Some players would kill for a slump like 10 points in 13 games, and others might consider it very effective. Yes, Petey is struggling, but to say he has been ineffective isn't correct. And when you ask if I am watching the games, which I am, are you trying to imply that I am stupid, blind, ignorant or not as wise as you? What would "effective" look like to you? Three points every game? Total domination in every aspect of the game? What? You are the one trying to spin this as a whole. There have been two halves to this season. You don't even have to watch the games to have realized that - we are 4W, 6L in our past 10 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Problem is then we have only Miller as a decent centre right now? Brady is awesome. But we'd need an NHL ready centre too. I think we'd be able to attract one in free agency. There has to be a Millstein client we could put between Kuzy and Mik. Brady-Miller-Boeser would be a dominant line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: I think we'd be able to attract one in free agency. There has to be a Millstein client we could put between Kuzy and Mik. Brady-Miller-Boeser would be a dominant line. Ottawa isnt trading Tkachuk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Ottawa isnt trading Tkachuk Are you in the room? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Are you in the room? That poster is a Habs’ fan. They be fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: That poster is a Habs’ fan. They be fishing. Oh Oh I know. Still smarting over that oversized Steve Bernier clone I think. We don't know what Allvin and other GM's might cook up. I can tell you Petey won't be lost for a crap return like Benning. Allvin will be proactive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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