Tusk Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 10:43 PM, Nucker67 said: Sounds like BOS and CGY could be working on something. I heard suggested Hanifin to the Bruins for DeBrusk. Got me thinking, could the Canucks get in on this? to BOS - Hanifin to CGY - Kuzmenko or Garland to VAN - DeBrusk At least with a Debrusk and a Friedman, along with Kevin Bieska we might get some positive news coverage and some support from Bettman that we should win a Stanley Cup. The Refs will have to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) . Edited December 9, 2023 by J-23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jeremy Hronek said: Exploring this idea a little...... To Buffalo: Pettersson + Myers + [??? a significant pick/prospect] / Pettersson = signed to an extension right away in Buffalo To Vancouver: Cozens + Power PDG-Miller-Boeser Kuzmenko-Cozens-Mikheyev Hoglander-Suter-Garland Joshua-Bluegar-Lafferty Power-Hronek Hughes-Soucy [Just to be clear guys. Hughes would still be our #1 d-man. This would just be a way of 'spreading the depth'] Cole-Zadorov Demko DeSmith I realize that I'm going into EA Sports territory here but in theory, I do like this idea for the following reasons: 1. We get two young assets signed long term for what will likely be an extremely good cap hit. 2. We cap our internal cap structure in-tact and in an indirect way, set the culture for this team. JT Miller would be the highest paid player on the Canucks at 8 million. There would be no 11-12 million dollar players on our team for a very long time (Hughes would be the next guy, four years from now). With the internal cap being intrinsically tied to our team culture, the Canucks could invest in more depth and build a very deep team. What's in it for Buffalo? Their team could become a massive free agent magnet, with UFA's possibly even willing to take a discount to be a part of a long term winner. Why? Because Buffalo would have both a franchise C (Pettersson) and franchise D (Dahlin) signed long term (the potential drawback being that both players will have a high C.H% relative to the overall team). I don’t think they trade both Power and Cozens, maybe a trade like this: To Sabres - Pettersson + Mikheyev To Canucks - Cozens + Benson ++ Then = NHL 24 - General Manager I would be looking at making the following trade: To Hurricanes - Kuzmenko ++ or a 1st Round Pick To Canucks - Pesce Free Agency Signings if these guys make it to free agency: Tanev - $3,500,000 for 1 year Stamkos - $9,250,000 for 2 years 2024/2025 Salary - $87,700,000 Canucks Salary - $87,458,334 Vancouver Canucks Höglander $1,100,000 - Miller $8,000,000 - Boeser $6,650,000 Benson $950,000 - Cozens $7,100,000 - Stamkos $9,250,000 Podkolzin $1,100,000 - Suter $1,600,000 - Garland $4,950,000 Joshua $1,000,000 - Raty $836,667 - Lafferty $1,500,000 Aman $825,000 —————————— Total $44,861,667 Hughes $7,850,000 - Pesce $6,500,000 Soucy $3,750,000 - Hronek $7,000,000 Zadorov $4,200,000 - Tanev $3,500,000 McWard $925,000 —————————— Total $32,750,000 Demko $5,000,000 DeSmith $2,500,000 —————————— Total $7,500,000 Larsson $2,346,667 —————————— Total $2,346,667 I don’t know if the math is 100% correct. Edited December 9, 2023 by J-23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien-Punch Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Buffalo has a ton of young good players, Cozens, Krebs, RD prospect Strbak and a 2024 1st lottery protected for Superstar Elias Pettersson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIAHN Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I was actually wondering about Buffalo.....kinda seem to be stuck I think a trade would be possible with them, "IF" that time ever came Pettersson and Kuzmenko for Cozens, Tuch and a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo0921 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 8:40 AM, HKSR said: To VAN: Josh Norris Artem Zub To OTT: Elias Pettersson Tyler Myers ($1M retained by VAN) Filip Johansson OTT does this as Petey is a solid upgrade on Norris. Gives them a 1-2 punch of Petey and Stutzle down the middle for the next decade. They also acquire a very good prospect in Johansson for development (not far off from NHL services IMO). Myers moved for cap purposes, but gives them a usable RHD for the remainder of this season. VAN acquires a very good and young centreman, likely more of a top tier 2C that can play behind Miller. He's also locked in for the long term. Artem Zub gives the Canucks the solid 2nd pair RHD they desperately need right now. The new Tanev for the Canucks. Defensively one of the best. Hoglander-Miller-Boeser Mikheyev-Norris-Kuzmenko Garland-Suter-Joshua Aman-Blueger-Lafferty Hughes-Hronek Zadorov-Zub Soucy-Juulsen/Friedman/Bear (if we sign him) The only way I'm dealing Petey is if he over-values himself. I've stated in another thread that I see him at 9 mil. x 8. A contract that ages well. Anything more and I would be interested in seeing what teams would be willing to offer. If Ottawa showed interest, my ask would be Brady Tkachuk, Matthew Joseph and 2 first rounders. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Lou Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 19 hours ago, Komodo0921 said: The only way I'm dealing Petey is if he over-values himself. I've stated in another thread that I see him at 9 mil. x 8. A contract that ages well. Anything more and I would be interested in seeing what teams would be willing to offer. If Ottawa showed interest, my ask would be Brady Tkachuk, Matthew Joseph and 2 first rounders. U ain't getting Brady and 2 1sts lol. Ottawa laughs and hangs up. I somewhat agree tho on your price. I'd offer 10.25×8 and anymore would result in a trade. They'd get a haul. That said I wouldn't entertain the idea of trading EP40 unless a hand is forced.... he's a big part of this core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo0921 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 9:03 PM, Bobby Lou said: U ain't getting Brady and 2 1sts lol. Ottawa laughs and hangs up. I somewhat agree tho on your price. I'd offer 10.25×8 and anymore would result in a trade. They'd get a haul. That said I wouldn't entertain the idea of trading EP40 unless a hand is forced.... he's a big part of this core. So let them laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Lou Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Komodo0921 said: So let them laugh. They will laugh haha.. Petey is great but he's not worth Tkatchuk AND not 1 but 2... 1sts. Just calling in how it is. Living in the real world. The way Ottawa is trending they're getting a top 10 pick this yr and likely mid teens at worst next. I just don't see in any non fantasy world how Petey returns that in a deal involving said pieces , let's be honest he wouldn't even sign with them if this happened tomorrow which in itself negates the trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Pettersson + Kuzmenko for Stutzle and Tkachuk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 12/21/2023 at 4:58 PM, Komodo0921 said: So let them laugh. And let the trade not happen because they laughed and hung up. What exactly are we trying to achieve here? An actual trade or them laughing at us? They have different outcomes if you didn't realise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) On 12/22/2023 at 1:34 AM, Jeremy Hronek said: Pettersson + Kuzmenko for Stutzle and Tkachuk VAN roster minus Demko - OTT roster minus whomever they have in net. HA HA. Plus we keep Miller because, well Deb. And we keep EP. Oh and QHs. That's a deal! BTW, we take your deal and run as fast as we can. Edited December 27, 2023 by IBatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 so what i get out of this thread is EP is not worth xxx amount a year.. and if he refuse to sign for well below market i would trade him for other teams best players throw in a couple 1st on top and if they hang up and laugh so be it?? so why would another team pay over the moon for EP and then have to sign him to what some of the anti EP poster here overpriced contract?? the original proposal is dumb and stupid as ottawa and buffalo and whatever rebuilding team you guys toss in have 0 chance of re-signing EP as it's pretty well known by now EP won't be signing with any team that have 0 chance of winning.. who's giving you players that are signed long term or A prospects with team control for a player 1 year from ufa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Theme song for this EP trade proposals... 'Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone...' Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 If Canucks can’t sign EP, then I would target CBJ as a trade partner. EP for Jirek + Johnson + 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 On 12/6/2023 at 5:44 PM, Alflives said: We will sign Petey to a 4 year term at 9.5 per. There are other clubs’ fans here fishing, who stir up trouble. We should be thankful we didn’t waste picks on Bustkofski and that Bustaroo D whose name is forgettable. Oh, and overpaid a useless Smerferdoodle. Alf really hates the Haberdoodles. I saw this comment and I was curious if you think if EP40 waits to sign a contract until after July 1st if another team might not want to offer him a lot more. I think this is a possibility. I think teams like Chi have the cap space to go after both EP40 and William Nylander. Bedard Is on an ELC for the next 2 seasons and the Cap is going to keep going up. Chi has 7 UFA's expiring this summer. Chi also has tons of draft picks and could want to hurry up the rebuild plus they already have a sunk cost in Seth Jones not paying dividends right now because the players in front of him are not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, CanuckFanForever said: I saw this comment and I was curious if you think if EP40 waits to sign a contract until after July 1st if another team might not want to offer him a lot more. I think this is a possibility. I think teams like Chi have the cap space to go after both EP40 and William Nylander. Bedard Is on an ELC for the next 2 seasons and the Cap is going to keep going up. Chi has 7 UFA's expiring this summer. Chi also has tons of draft picks and could want to hurry up the rebuild plus they already have a sunk cost in Seth Jones not paying dividends right now because the players in front of him are not good. If another club puts in an offer sheet on Petey (after July 1, 2024) we will just match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Alflives said: If another club puts in an offer sheet on Petey (after July 1, 2024) we will just match. That's not the Question of course they match it but do you think they go bigger then 9.5mill like you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: If another club puts in an offer sheet on Petey (after July 1, 2024) we will just match. I just feel if he gets to July 1st he gets offer sheeted with big money. 12-13 million The problem this fan base hasn't addressed is the the fact that other GMs in this league probably view EP40 value much higher and the Canucks are not save from those other GMs come July 1st Edited January 1 by CanuckFanForever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: That's not the Question of course they match it but do you think they go bigger then 9.5mill like you said IMHAO a club would stay under 10,740 mil AAV. But the term would be 6-8 years. So we match and win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: I just feel if he gets to July 1st he gets offer sheeted with big money. 12-13 million The problem this fan base hasn't addressed is the the fact that other GMs in this league probably view EP40 value much higher and the Canucks are not save from those other GMs come July 1st Matters not because we just match. We no longer have Benning messing up the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Alflives said: IMHAO a club would stay under 10,740 mil AAV. But the term would be 6-8 years. So we match and win! Do you know what is salary is this season it is 10.25 million this season. That's the starting point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Matters not because we just match. We no longer have Benning messing up the works. so you admit He could sign for 12-13 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, CanuckFanForever said: Do you know what is salary is this season it is 10.25 million this season. That's the starting point Actually Petey’s QO is 8.2; that’s the starting point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, CanuckFanForever said: so you admit He could sign for 12-13 million Nope. Any offer sheet would be below 10.74 mil AAV. But then the term would be longer: 6-8 years. So we match and win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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