bishopshodan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, VintageActualCanuckfan said: And they make a great breakfast samich. That doesnt mean I would eat a dog. Or a human animal. However I respect your decisions while enjoying mine. I bet human bacon is delish. Very close to pig physiology. I respect your decisions too. I will though, when asked, state what is known to be true. If you scroll through the meme thread you see dozens of jokes bashing vegans/vegetarians. My belief is that some people see the resaoning that I point out and perhaps feel defensive. If you do eat meat. Buy local. Farm rasied. Treat yourself right and respect the animal that you are consuming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, bishopshodan said: Plants have shown some kind of communication. They certainly have - that is, according to Prof. Suzanne Simard at UBC. TED talk: https://simardlab.forestry.ubc.ca/media/lectures-talks/ Critique: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/science/trees-fungi-talking.html News article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/simard-citation-review-1.6758773 Podcast: https://pwias.ubc.ca/ideas/podcasts/ep-10-suzanne-simard-on-how-trees-communicate-with-each-other/ And now a movie: https://globalnews.ca/news/7906298/suzanne-simard-mother-tree-movie/ (all this is way way over my head...) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, VintageActualCanuckfan said: it might not "think" but it "feels" there is a difference. Sentient refers to feelings not thoughts or logic. Plants turn towards the sun. Is that not a feeling? My ex killed all my plants, they definitely had feelings. Understanding plant life is awesome. IF someone can prove that they feel/think the same way us mammals and some other animals do...then I pray for a daily pill diet. I am not obsessed with what i consume. I want health while doing my small part to reduce suffering in this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 minutes ago, 112 said: I'll never understand people who go out of their way to shit on vegans, vegetarians, pescatarians, etc. If you want to eat meat, go for it, but don't make bad faith arguments and post facebook memes about how great meat is when someone's expressing their choice to eat veggies instead. I eat meat (have gone vegetarian a few times) but am not going to act like the meat industry isn't a problem for a lot of reasons, not least of which is that living creatures with rich inner experiences suffer because of it. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/25/chinas-26-storey-pig-skyscraper-ready-to-produce-1-million-pigs-a-year ^This isn't right. We dont all get to live in a world where our survival depends on harvesting the life of an animal. When you do experience that gratefulness to the animal you do understand. I respect every person who has chosen to not eat meat, but I also expect them to respect me, and my choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Understanding plant life is awesome. IF someone can prove that they feel/think the same way us mammals and some other animals do...then I pray for a daily pill diet. I am not obsessed with what i consume. I want health while doing my small part to reduce suffering in this world. feeling the same way is sort of the problem humans have these days. Edited February 22 by VintageActualCanuckfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 19 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I bet human bacon is delish. Very close to pig physiology. I respect your decisions too. I will though, when asked, state what is known to be true. If you scroll through the meme thread you see dozens of jokes bashing vegans/vegetarians. My belief is that some people see the resaoning that I point out and perhaps feel defensive. If you do eat meat. Buy local. Farm rasied. Treat yourself right and respect the animal that you are consuming. I make fun of everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 19 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: They certainly have - that is, according to Prof. Suzanne Simard at UBC. TED talk: https://simardlab.forestry.ubc.ca/media/lectures-talks/ Critique: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/science/trees-fungi-talking.html News article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/simard-citation-review-1.6758773 Podcast: https://pwias.ubc.ca/ideas/podcasts/ep-10-suzanne-simard-on-how-trees-communicate-with-each-other/ And now a movie: https://globalnews.ca/news/7906298/suzanne-simard-mother-tree-movie/ (all this is way way over my head...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 19 minutes ago, VintageActualCanuckfan said: feeling the same way is sort of the problem humans have these days. I dont follow...not sure what you are saying. 9 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: I make fun of everything. You do. And I enjoy it. No real judgement here. Just passing through this life with all of ya. That said, if asked I will state what i believe and why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: I've posted this before but love it.. Old Tool. And the angel of the lord came unto me Snatching me up from my place of slumber And took me on high and higher still Until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own Midwest And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil One thousand nay a million voices full of fear And terror possessed me then And I begged Angel of the Lord what are these tortured screams? And the angel said unto me These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard Tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat Like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylocke Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 hours ago, brilac said: I confess ~ I am loving this cleanser that just arrived! It's from Iceland. The cleanser I was using was making my face dry that I could not take it anymore. I went to Iceland many years ago and fell in love with this company's skin care products. It just takes me back. I just love Iceland so much! Oooh, what's the name of the brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: 5 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I've posted this before but love it.. Old Tool. And the angel of the lord came unto me Snatching me up from my place of slumber And took me on high and higher still Until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own Midwest And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil One thousand nay a million voices full of fear And terror possessed me then And I begged Angel of the Lord what are these tortured screams? And the angel said unto me These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard Tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat Like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus undertow Edited February 22 by VintageActualCanuckfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, VintageActualCanuckfan said: schism Disgustipated Actaully pobably good listen when on shrooms... Edited February 22 by bishopshodan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brilac Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Psylocke said: Oooh, what's the name of the brand? Blue Lagoon I’m in love right now. My skin feels so much better! Plus, you can buy their products from Amazon! Or their website, whichever you prefer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Disgustipated Actaully pobably good listen when on shrooms... Its a good listen anytime. I think this was the first Tool album I ever bought, and only heard it while driving cause I didnt skip the blank space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylocke Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, brilac said: Blue Lagoon I’m in love right now. My skin feels so much better! Plus, you can buy their products from Amazon! Or their website, whichever you prefer. Thanks! I will check out their site. Might have to give it a try! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylocke Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Got a set of pretty knitting needles. Can't wait to use them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, bishopshodan said: I've posted this before but love it.. Old Tool. And the angel of the lord came unto me Snatching me up from my place of slumber And took me on high and higher still Until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own Midwest And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil One thousand nay a million voices full of fear And terror possessed me then And I begged Angel of the Lord what are these tortured screams? And the angel said unto me These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard Tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat Like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus I have seen them 4-5 times. Might see them again in March when they play in Sidney or in Parksille. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) My son is going to River Rock Casino for 2 nights then 2 nights in Bellingham starting today. Wish I could have gone with him. https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/blifp-four-points-bellingham-hotel-and-conference-center/overview/?scid=f2ae0541-1279-4f24-b197-a979c79310b0 Edited February 25 by The Arrogant Worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I confess, I just ordered a Kirk McLean signed rookie card. I also ordered a Bo Horvat signed official game puck inscribed with his NHL debut on it, it was 63% off, couldn't help myself. And after I said I was gonna stop ordering things for a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 7 minutes ago, gwarrior said: I confess, I just ordered a Kirk McLean signed rookie card. I also ordered a Bo Horvat signed official game puck inscribed with his NHL debut on it, it was 63% off, couldn't help myself. And after I said I was gonna stop ordering things for a bit. I will see if I have any autographed cards I can send you.. I used to own a sports card store but have sold off most of my collection 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 23 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: I will see if I have any autographed cards I can send you.. I used to own a sports card store but have sold off most of my collection If you have anything that I'm after, let me know, and how much you would want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 7 minutes ago, gwarrior said: If you have anything that I'm after, let me know, and how much you would want. Just the shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Just the shipping Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/22/2024 at 10:06 AM, bishopshodan said: That's a good question. Plants have shown some kind of communication. Some react when they 'hear' predators. What scientist do tell us though is that a pig is likely smarter than a dog and....3 year old human animals. Those pigs see the world similar to a toddler, a child. They think...they feel. I think the absence of a brain is the place to begin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 My son is in Bellingham now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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