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★[GDT] Vancouver Canucks vs Florida Panthers • Dec 14, 2023 • 7PM • Rogers Place (Roberto Luongo Night ROH Induction)★

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48 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

 

 

I think Luongo was to a generation of fans what Bure was to a previous generation.

 

When he came it was so big, and that first season it was like nothing we had ever seen before. He was a top star in the league & his arrival flipped the trajectory of the team immediately. He made alot of people die-hard fans. 

 

Maybe that's why the debate over jersey retirement is so fierce.

 

But tonight should be good & hopefully we continue our run of encouraging play

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22 minutes ago, Johnny said:

Looks like quinn and matt are laughing

 

they are old time good buds

 

17 minutes ago, Barnstorm said:


I can’t remember. Was that during BB’s fun house and country club environment?

I’m not sure Tocchet would have approved. 
Old buddies or not it’s not a good look. 

I think it was during the Green era. Regardless, it's not a good look at all, and highly doubt Quinn would do that again. 

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1 hour ago, Pears said:

For people crying about his contract, just remember it was completely 100% legal at the time he signed it and we only got hit with a bullshit penalty after the new CBA was put in place. Oh and New Jersey and LA were allowed to get out of similar penalties from Kovalchuk/Richards contracts. 

 

This cba stuff is totally true. He just bitched out and screwed us over though by not just going on LTIR. He said he had every intention of playing, didn't end up doing that, and just up and quit and royally effed us over. He didn't feel like playing for a measly $1 mil a year and got back at Vancouver for perceived injustices. He really stuck it to us.

 

https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/traikos-panthers-luongo-unlikely-to-fulfill-final-years-of-contract

TRAIKOS: Panthers' Luongo unlikely to fulfill final years of contract

Author of the article:
Michael Traikos
Published Dec 21, 2018  •  5 minute read
 

Florida Panthers goaltender Roberto Luongo, right, defends the goal against Toronto Maple Leafs right wing William Nylander Saturday, Dec. 15, 2018, in Sunrise, Fla. (AP Photo/Brynn Anderson) Florida Panthers goaltender Roberto Luongo, right, defends the goal against Toronto Maple Leafs right wing William Nylander Saturday, Dec. 15, 2018, in Sunrise, Fla. (AP Photo/Brynn Anderson)

 

Roberto Luongo is on his farewell tour. He just doesn’t know it yet.

 

Right now, the Florida Panthers goalie said he plans on fulfilling all 12 years of a $64 million contract that won’t expire until 2022. By then, Luongo would be 43 years old. But his age isn’t the biggest challenge in keeping him on the ice.

 

It’s easy to drag your beat-up body to the rink when you’re the eighth highest-paid goalie in the NHL, as Luongo was last year. It becomes slightly more difficult when your salary is cut in half, as it was for him this season. But the real test will come next year when he’s making just $1.618 million — or in the final two years of his deal, when he bottoms out at $1 million per season.

Chances are that he will be retired before then.

Frankly, it’s a bit surprising that he hasn’t already developed the kind of career-ending injury that coincidentally forced Marian Hossa and Henrik Zetterberg out of the game just as their paycheques dried up.

 

When asked if he expected to be playing this far into his contract, Luongo seemed insulted by the question.

“That’s why I signed it,” he said. “My intention was to play as long as I could. I never put a number on it, I never said I would retire at a certain age. I just wanted to keep playing as long as I enjoy it and I am able to play at a high level and be as healthy as I can be.

“Right now, other than the injuries a little bit, I still feel like I can play at a high level and I love playing the game. So I don’t have a year, I don’t have a set time, I just want to do the best I can and keep enjoying it and hopefully I get another long playoff run.”

In other words, ask him again next year.

And it’s not just Luongo who we will be asking. From Sidney Crosby and Zach Parise to Shea Weber and Duncan Keith, there are several players who are on front-loaded contracts structured in a way where it makes little financial sense in the final three years.

 

No longer allowed under the current CBA, the back-diving contract was a way for teams to circumvent the salary cap by extending the term of a deal in order to keep the annual average down. In theory, a player is paid the majority of his money in his prime producing years. As his production decreases, so does his actual salary.

For instance, Crosby was paid $12 million in his first three years (he won a scoring title, Hart Trophy and was named Stanley Cup MVP), then averaged $9.9 million in the next six years, before dropping to $3 million in each of the final three years. In other cases, the final drop is more severe.

Hossa scored 26 goals in 2016-17. He sat out the following season because of a progressive skin disorder. The timing was a bit curious, considering his salary was set to drop from $4 million to $1 million in the final four years.

 
Zetterberg, who had 56 points in 82 games last season, also called it a career this summer because of a degenerative condition in his back. He had been paid $7 million last year and would have earned a combined $5.35 million in the final three years of his contract.

Which brings us to Luongo, who after earning $6.714 million last season is being paid $3.382 million this year and is set to receive just $3.618 million in the next three years combined. Add that to a 39-year-old body that is starting to break down more and more — he played in 35 games last year and has made less than half the starts this year — and all indications are that this could be his last season.

“Listen, it’s tough,” said Luongo. “I’m not going to lie. There’s a lot of stuff you have to deal with when you get up there. Recovery is not as fast and you have to put a lot of work into it to make sure you’re ready to play the next night. I understand what (Hossa and Zetterberg are) going through and I feel that every day. But right now I’m willing to do whatever it takes to keep going and we’ll see how long I play.”

 
 

To his credit, Luongo might be living in Florida. But he is not playing like someone who is already eyeing a timeshare at Del Boca Vista.

The Panthers are a much better team with him than without him. Had he not missed so much time, they might be sitting in a playoff spot right now.

Part of that is why Luongo seems so hell-bent on playing out the remaining years of his contract.

This is a young and talented team that the Panthers have, and while they have taken their lumps early on and performed below expectations, there’s no reason why a group headed by Aleksander Barkov, Jonathan Huberdeau and Aaron Ekblad won’t put it all together in the next year or two.

Regardless of the money, Luongo wants to be around for that. And the Panthers feel the same way.

 

“It’s crucial for us that he stays healthy,” said Panthers head coach Bob Boughner. “He’s our most important player, so to try and force him into a game here, a game there for the sake of him getting banged up is not worth it … but Louie’s the key to our success. We know that.”

BABCOCK: LUONGO A FUTURE HALL OF FAMER

Heading into Thursday night’s game, Roberto Luongo was fourth on the all-time NHL wins list with 478, just six back of Ed Belfour. With three more years remaining on his contract, he could end up catching Patrick Roy (551).

Maybe that was why Toronto Maple Leafs head coach Mike Babcock did not hesitate when asked if the Florida Panthers goaltender would one day wind up in the Hall of Fame.

“Whatever the numbers are, he’s a shoo-in for me,” said Babcock, who compared Luongo to Dominik Hasek when it comes to hockey intelligence. “You know those guys who are smarter than everybody else — their hockey sense is better — and I remember playing against Lou in the Memorial Cup. We beat them in overtime. And I was in Spokane. He knew where the puck was coming then before anybody else kind of knew. He still knows that.”

While Luongo was appreciative of Babcock’s comments (“It’s nice of him to say that,” he said), the Panthers goalie said all of that talk is for another day.

“I just want to be in the playoffs. That’s why I play the game,” he said. “At the end of my career, I’ll look back at those numbers and appreciate them. But for now I just want to do my job.”

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Ring is fine, nope on Jersey retirement. While the offence didn't show up in the Finals, Luongo tanked in that series and I was screaming for them to start Schnieder in game 6 and 7. 

(Also if we ever do win, we're going to need a "superduper level".)

 

Chance to finally put on a streak, still want Kuzzy to get more.

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

PDG out I guess 

 

15 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

Or Åman?

Either way this is good news. Keeps the bottom 6 fresh and hungry. Whoever has an uninspired game is next to sit. 

Crazy how that used to be Hogz automatic to the press box. Just goes to show how hard work and talent pays off

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Wow what an incredible GTD nice work. 
 

Luongo was traded to the Canucks when I was 14 years old. A pivotal time in my Canucks fandom. Moving on from just following in my dads footsteps

to becoming my own fan. I remember being so excited for this trade, then going to my first playoff game. Game 7 against Dallas. The iconic Luongo holding his stick up after the victory. 
 

While the following years would bring high

highs, and low lows, it’s hard to deny what Luongo did for this city. One game sadly defined his legacy, but despite a controversial move, Luongo deserves this recognition. 
 

it’s a great time to do as Canucks are back in the W culture, and time has passed enough to heal. 
 

here’s for a big win tonight for four in a row. 

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22 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

 

I think Luongo was to a generation of fans what Bure was to a previous generation.

 

When he came it was so big, and that first season it was like nothing we had ever seen before. He was a top star in the league & his arrival flipped the trajectory of the team immediately. He made alot of people die-hard fans. 

 

Maybe that's why the debate over jersey retirement is so fierce.

 

But tonight should be good & hopefully we continue our run of encouraging play

His first year performance was off the charts…

never seen another goalie perform at  such a high level in my entire life… 

I remember an early schedule game I believe it was in Detroit or Pittsburgh I don’t remember now but he got injured and he was never was quite the same after that

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