bishopshodan Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 bishopshodan 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Iron Man said: What are you talking about? Burr is already in the RoH, has been since 2019. I know. I just dont agree he should be there. Might as well have the whole 2011 team up there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Kevin Biestra said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Rory Fitzpatrick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Eagle, its a no-brainer. Hopefully they ink him to a one day contract this year to retire as a Canuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Eagle, its a no-brainer. Hopefully they ink him to a one day contract this year to retire as a Canuck. We need to pace ourselves. You think Edler would make an original 6 team’s ROH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Ballard,Raymond and a 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, LaBamba said: We need to pace ourselves. You think Edler would make an original 6 team’s ROH? Original 6 is for pussies. Who couldn't win a cup with just 6 teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, LaBamba said: We need to pace ourselves. You think Edler would make an original 6 team’s ROH? What about Ohlund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, LaBamba said: We need to pace ourselves. You think Edler would make an original 6 team’s ROH? 1 hour ago, -AJ- said: What about Ohlund? Honestly neither would fare all too well by that standard. They are two guys who get in by being well above average defensemen and for being at or near the top for career games on the blueline...but on a team with no 1000 game defensemen. Edler especially is in almost entirely for longevity...which is fine with me but the original six boast all kinds of very good and great players - better players arguably and in some cases certainly - who wouldn't really get that sort of consideration for their tenure or achievements. Ron Greschner, Barry Beck, JC Tremblay, Ian Turnbull, Bob Murray, Petr Svoboda, James Patrick, Reed Larson, etc. And that's just quickly off the top of my head for defensemen. The names I said are overlooked are more in the Pavel Bure category with a shorter stay mostly but who captured the heart of the city. Boudrias is more a case of historical respect like Kurtenbach. But at one time the keys to the city and the hearts of its residents belonged to King Richard, Tiger Williams and Gino Odjick. Cliff Ronning also falls into this category but I'm just slightly more hesitant to include him because he potentially opens the door to other players in a way that the other three don't. There was talk that when he was president, Pat Quinn wanted to straight up retire Tiger Williams' jersey and raise it to the rafters with Smyl. Edited December 16, 2023 by Kevin Biestra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Ballard,Raymond and a 1st. This would never happen in Japan. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, -AJ- said: What about Ohlund? Meh. What exactly are we rewarding Ohlund for? His era was by far the most disappointing in Canuck history. We had the talent to do so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, LaBamba said: Meh. What exactly are we rewarding Ohlund for? His era was by far the most disappointing in Canuck history. We had the talent to do so much better. Well, I'll grant you that you're at least consistent between Ohlund and Edler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 I'm going with Kesler because he's the only one officially retired. And, I hate to go back to 2011, but he went beast mode till he hit that rut and screwed his hip up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, gwarrior said: I'm going with Kesler because he's the only one officially retired. And, I hate to go back to 2011, but he went beast mode till he hit that rut and screwed his hip up. He had that one great series but the best series I have seen from any Canuck forward or defenseman was Cliff Ronning against the Kings in 1991 where he was the best player on either team including Gretzky. Kesler's Nashville series goes into the mix and works in his favor for sure but he's not alone with that sort of achievement while sitting on the outside of the ROH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: He had that one great series but the best series I have seen from any Canuck forward or defenseman was Cliff Ronning against the Kings in 1991 where he was the best player on either team including Gretzky. Kesler's Nashville series goes into the mix and works in his favor for sure but he's not alone with that sort of achievement while sitting on the outside of the ROH. I was too young to remember Ronning doing that. But yeah, I would be on board with him getting in the ROH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gwarrior said: I was too young to remember Ronning doing that. But yeah, I would be on board with him getting in the ROH Guy arrived in that trade from St. Louis and set the city on fire. Six goals and three assists in six games as the Canucks lost the series 4-2 to Gretzky and friends. I would have to say that after all these years he is the most exciting player I have ever seen in a Vancouver uniform other than Bure. Edited December 16, 2023 by Kevin Biestra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: He had that one great series but the best series I have seen from any Canuck forward or defenseman was Cliff Ronning against the Kings in 1991 where he was the best player on either team including Gretzky. Kesler's Nashville series goes into the mix and works in his favor for sure but he's not alone with that sort of achievement while sitting on the outside of the ROH. He might have had an unlikeable personality at times (Kesler) to be point of extreme arrogance but one could never question his work ethic. In fact, I wished he actually dailed it down a few notches during the home stretch of the regular season. He didn't have an 'off switch'. Always went all out (much in the way Linden did) to the point he sometimes ran out of gas in the post-season. I think we might've seen more from him than that the Pred series had he done this. But its tough for me to knock a guy that didn't take a shift off even if the game didn't mean much (playoff spot wrapped up) at the time. Edited December 16, 2023 by NewbieCanuckFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Guy arrived in that trade from St. Louis and set the city on fire. Six goals and three assists in six games as the Canucks lost the series 4-2 to Gretzky and friends. I would have to say that after all these years he is the most exciting player I have ever seen in a Vancouver uniform other than Bure. Yeah, I'm on board. But I was born in '87, so I kinda missed out on some things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilgore Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 The ROH should naturally be bigger than the number of jerseys hanging. I say expand it further. They don't have to each take up so much real estate around the stadium. The ROH should have room for most all of the suggestions in this thread. Why not? Its whomever made a notable impact while playing here. For any reason, that's why you include Gino as well. The ROH could be any player that represents memorable and entertaining moments in fans lives. Jersey retirement is a whole other level, and stricter conditions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, kilgore said: The ROH should naturally be bigger than the number of jerseys hanging. I say expand it further. They don't have to each take up so much real estate around the stadium. The ROH should have room for most all of the suggestions in this thread. Why not? Its whomever made a notable impact while playing here. For any reason, that's why you include Gino as well. The ROH could be any player that represents memorable and entertaining moments in fans lives. Jersey retirement is a whole other level, and stricter conditions. I've been on the Gino and Tiger Williams train for a long time. The old school NHL enforcer doesn't exist anymore and never will again. The Canucks were arguably the greatest enforcer team in the league and these two guys both captured the city in a way very few players ever do. Setting aside the fact that Tiger is by far the NHL record holder in career penalty minutes, he was also an All Star and a 35 goal scorer for the Canucks. Anyway...these guys are an extinct breed and should be honored. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Not a bad choice at all. I have him a small handful of guys tied for around 6th on the waiting list. Tiger Williams, Richard Brodeur, Gino Odjick and Andre Boudrias as the ones who should have been in for some time. Cliff Ronning is probably the next guy but Tanti is pretty close. The main reason I am a little more hesitant with Ronning is that he starts to open the door to Adams and Courtnall and in the same way it used to be that you couldn't say Tony Tanti without also thinking Petri Skriko. But at the very worst Tanti is in a group with some legitimate ROH contenders like Doug Lidster, Cliff Ronning, Don Lever, etc. And possibly a sliver above. Five straight seasons for the Canucks with 39-45 goals, with that 45 having been the team record until Pavel Bure. Quite worthy of respect and recognition. Edited December 16, 2023 by Kevin Biestra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) On 12/15/2023 at 12:55 PM, 27 Percent said: Here's the thing with kesler (who is my all time favorite player). If he makes the ROH I think Horvat has to make the ROH too based on length of tenure with the Canucks and stats. So if you can live with Bo being in the ROH yes I think kes is in. Horvat didn't play anything like Kesler. He'd run away and hide before dropping them with the likes of Iginla. Kesler was one of the better players in the league over a two year period, stick him with anyone, and he'd play against the best of the best and outperform them on a regular basis. Kesler won't get in. Not without a makeup session first. Bieksa and Eagle next from that group of guys. Edited December 16, 2023 by IBatch 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Just now, IBatch said: Horvat didn't play anything like Kesler. He'd run away and hide before dropping them with the likes of Iginla. Kesler was one of the better players in the league over a two year period, stick him with anyone, and he'd play against the best of the best and outperform them on a regular basis. Yes by far deserves to be in over Bo. Bo never made anything close to the kind of physical play Kes did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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