HKSR Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 7 hours ago, GrammaInTheTub said: I cheer for a Canada win when we play our own prospects, but with the hope that our prospects have incredible games in a loss. In non-Canada games, I cheer for whatever prospects we may have playing that day. This extends to junior play obviously. If we have no prospects playing and it’s not Canada, I still watch and really enjoy seeing the next generation of players develop. Some people here seem so insistent on a you vs us mentality with any opinion stated - it reminds me of myself and friends trying to find our voices in highschool. Same here. I was happy for our prospects, and that was the only reason the sting of a shutout loss didn't feel as painful as it normally would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Long Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, shiznak said: The point is, if you really want to invest in our prospects, then go watch their games outside of the WJC. There’s tons of “TV” sites all over the internet. Most people don't have time for that. 5 hours ago, shiznak said: Cheering on an individual player(s) is fine. But being a fan of a team, based off who we draft by nationality is kind of foolish. If you ask me. That's fine, but I want our prospects to have the experience of a team winning something important. 5 hours ago, shiznak said: Do you cheer for the team of your favourite non-Canucks player, in the NHL? I highly doubt it. A lot do. We have many Habs fans on here eg. Or people who like the barzal, etc. 5 hours ago, shiznak said: BTW, I’m not downplaying the event. The WJC is probably my favourite hockey event, aside from the Olympics. Most of these kids; this is their Stanley Cup Finals. I will always cheer for Canada to win, and it has nothing to do with world domination of the game or Canadian Pride. It’s about one day having my kids watching these teenage boys win the ultimate reward and telling me, “someday I want to win that for you.”. That’s why we see these players’ families, travel to a foreign country (whenever is held in one), and miss one of the most important days of the year. Imagine, you; related to one of these kids, in some capacity, and they come back with the medal and you tell them, “great job, but I was hoping Sweden won, because they have prospects of my favourite team.”. That's a personal experience for every kid in the tournament. Edited December 30, 2023 by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) Norway-Switzerland playing a hell of a game. And now Latvia looking real solid against the Germans. So much for these teams not belonging in the tournament. Edited December 30, 2023 by King Heffy 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Wow, Latvia! 6-1 in the 3rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 The 8 goal differential is looking out of reach, but wow that would have been something for Finland! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: Norway-Switzerland playing a hell of a game. And now Latvia looking real solid against the Germans. So much for these teams not belonging in the tournament. No kidding. Totally egotistical and arrogant to think these teams shouldn't have a spot in this tournament. They'll improve as the years go by. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: No kidding. Totally egotistical and arrogant to think these teams shouldn't have a spot in this tournament. They'll improve as the years go by. And look at moments like these for them....you can't deny them the happiness that a win like this brings and how much it generates in the sport of hockey. Hearing their anthem played...a big moment, no matter the final outcome. Players play for pride and their countries...to suggest that they are fodder and don't matter really undermines how much is does matter to them. This is the beauty of sports....when a team that hasn't scored finds a way to score 6 in a critical game for them. I mean, seeing them celebrate in the locker room shows exactly why teams "belong" and underdogs always have a place in sports. Everyone can dream. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, -dlc- said: And look at moments like these for them....you can't deny them the happiness that a win like this brings and how much it generates in the sport of hockey. Hearing their anthem played...a big moment, no matter the final outcome. Players play for pride and their countries...to suggest that they are fodder and don't matter really undermines how much is does matter to them. This is the beauty of sports....when a team that hasn't scored finds a way to score 6 in a critical game for them. I mean, seeing them celebrate in the locker room shows exactly why teams "belong" and underdogs always have a place in sports. Everyone can dream. That win for Latvia will be more meaningful for those kids than whoever ends up winning the Bronze. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 2:01 PM, shiznak said: I wonder how many people would be “cheering on” Sweden, if two of our prospects weren’t on the team? You cheer on the crest on the front, not the name on the back. Three. And obviously most of us wouldn't cheer for a team that didn't have our prospects. But it's ok that we do....it's about the name on the back, too, when our up and coming players are involved. We want them to succeed and that's ok. We can take an interest in them without having to be "all in" or seek out games that (at least for me) would be impossible to access. Doesn't mean I can't support them when I am provided access. Besides, for me...with what's unfolded with Team Canada I'm not quite as loyal to an organization that I once supported wholeheartedly. Knowing what's gone on, my loyalty isn't quite as do or die in strength. I want to be proud of my country and recently there's been some shame attached to the name on the back. I cheer on ... whoever I see fit to. Will always be a proud Canadian and support our team first and foremost, but it doesn't have to be tunnel vision and there's enough love in my heart to share some of it with others. Sweden's been good to us as hockey fans. And damn right the names on the back are worthy of cheering for...not just when they land on our doorstep, but along the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Somewhat of a story; Nice to see Latvia climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hairy Kneel Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, HKSR said: No kidding. Totally egotistical and arrogant to think these teams shouldn't have a spot in this tournament. They'll improve as the years go by. I think with the interweb a lot of international teams can scout each level of opponents in NA. Equivalent talent levels in the CHL, OHL, AHL all have interweb tape now so teams like Latvia can see what work they need to do to be successful. International coaching is adjusting more by viewing NA systems. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 16 hours ago, shiznak said: The point is, if you really want to invest in our prospects, then go watch their games outside of the WJC. There’s tons of “TV” sites all over the internet. Cheering on an individual player(s) is fine. But being a fan of a team, based off who we draft by nationality is kind of foolish. If you ask me. Do you cheer for the team of your favourite non-Canucks player, in the NHL? I highly doubt it. BTW, I’m not downplaying the event. The WJC is probably my favourite hockey event, aside from the Olympics. Most of these kids; this is their Stanley Cup Finals. I will always cheer for Canada to win, and it has nothing to do with world domination of the game or Canadian Pride. It’s about one day having my kids watching these teenage boys win the ultimate reward and telling me, “someday I want to win that for you.”. That’s why we see these players’ families, travel to a foreign country (whenever is held in one), and miss one of the most important days of the year. Imagine, you; related to one of these kids, in some capacity, and they come back with the medal and you tell them, “great job, but I was hoping Sweden won, because they have prospects of my favourite team.”. Cheering on an organization that allows their players to rape women without any consequences seems rather foolish as well. I’ve been cheering for Canada since the 1980’s. So I don’t really care if someone calls me foolish for cheering on the prospects of the Vancouver Canucks and for cheering on a beautiful scandal free country like Sweden who have given our Vancouver Canucks so many star players to enjoy and cheer for over the last 40+ years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said: Tournament is different without Russia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeltaSwede Posted December 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) PA being interviewed in the Swedish studio. - Thinks EP (the forward) has more steps to take even though he's a really good player - Loves being able to be at the world juniors to watch his draftees in person, shouts out Mikael Samuelsson - Likes Lekkerimäki, believe he will be a top 6 player, thinks he will need to adjust to the NA game with less time and ice - Canucks will bring him over to NA after this season - EP2.0 likes his size and agility, has liked his development - Will bring him over to NA after this season, "as soon as he's done here with Västerås" - In both cases he mentions learning to play on a smaller ice surface and Abbotsford being a good place for development - There is no rush from the Canucks in regards to Willander - Really impressed by all prospects so far this tournament - Critiques the Swedish teams mental skills of getting up to games, he's 100% correct Expect both Lekkerimäki and EP2.0 to join Abbottsford next season. Another take away, his 22 years in NA was evident. His Swenglish was amazing. Mixing in about 15% english words. It's really special for me and for Swedish hockey that we've got a Swedish GM. Edited December 31, 2023 by DeltaSwede 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillStrimma Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Allvin intervied in Sweden now between periods. Edited December 31, 2023 by LillStrimma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LillStrimma Posted December 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: PA being interviewed in the Swedish studio. - Thinks EP has more steps to take - Loves being able to be at the world juniors to watch his draftees in person, shouts out Mikael Samuelsson - Likes Lekkerimäki, believe he will be a top 6 player, thinks he will need to adjust to the NA game with less time and ice - Canucks will bring him over to NA after this season - EP2.0 likes his size and agility, has liked his development - Will bring him over to NA after this season - In both cases he mentions learning to play on a smaller ice surface - There is no rush from the Canucks in regards to Willander - Really impressed by all prospects so far this tournament - Critiques the Swedish teams mental skills of getting up to games, he's 100% correct Expect both Lekkerimäki and EP2.0 to join Abbottsford next season. Another take away, his 22 years in NA was evident. His Swenglish was amazing. Mixing in about 15% english words. It's really special for me and for Swedish hockey that we've got a Swedish GM. I can add that Willander is looked at as a 2/3D. Allvin looks at other prospects for future trades. Our prospects has to show they are mature and willing to compete. Picked first doesn’t mean a place automatically on the team. Allvin is very much down to earth. A keeper for GM as I see it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27 Percent Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Get your tissues ready because here comes some criticism. Lekkermaki needs to think about other options rather than just shoot the puck into skates all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, LillStrimma said: I can add that Willander is looked at as a 2/3D. Allvin looks at other prospects for future trades. Our prospects has to show they are mature and willing to compete. Picked first doesn’t mean a place automatically on the team. Allvin is very much down to earth. A keeper for GM as I see it. Thanks for filling in Strimma! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, 27 Percent said: Get your tissues ready because here comes some criticism. Lekkermaki needs to think about other options rather than just shoot the puck into skates all the time. He shoots, he scores. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillStrimma Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: Thanks for filling in Strimma! And Lekkerimäki scored 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs and Podz Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, LillStrimma said: I can add that Willander is looked at as a 2/3D. That is very interesting... I wonder if he feels, if developed well, if he sees him as a potential number 1. Not so much in van but generally? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 2:01 PM, shiznak said: I wonder how many people would be “cheering on” Sweden, if two of our prospects weren’t on the team? You cheer on the crest on the front, not the name on the back. I wonder how many actual Canucks fans are unaware of the fact that THREE, not TWO of our prospects are playing on team Sweden and that NONE are playing on any other team.? I cheer for the Canucks prospects, not for kids whose names I don't even know, who are properties of other teams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Locke Lamora Posted December 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, 27 Percent said: Get your tissues ready because here comes some criticism. Lekkermaki needs to think about other options rather than just shoot the puck into skates all the time. This aged poorly, lol. When you have a legit weapon like that shot, you keep shooting. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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