Miss Korea Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Lol watch us trade Kuzy for Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Lol watch us trade Kuzy for Bear That would mean the Caps backstabbing Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 To PHI kuzy mcdonaugh To VAN Konecny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 We dont need to do anything now.Someone will overpay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, canucks curse said: To PHI kuzy mcdonaugh To VAN Konecny Konecny is the heart and soul of the flyers. His value is much much higher than what you offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, canucks curse said: To PHI kuzy mcdonaugh To VAN Konecny Philly is comfortably in playoff position right now and Konecny is their leading scorer. Why on earth would they make this deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) We should trade him for a goalie, and then flip the goalie to fleece the Oilers! J/K We should keep him and see if his game improves. Edit. The key part here being 'fleece the Oilers' Edited December 21, 2023 by gizmo2337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I just think it's smoke in the air and we won't trade Kuz unless it's a deal we can't say No to. A point a game player is worth at least a good player back and first round pick, or decent player,great prospect and second rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) This is tough as Washington doesn't seem like an ideal trading partner, and I don't really think we need to trade Kuzmenko if it hasn't become a distraction and his agent would like him to have a chance of scenery. He is a sophomore player in the NHL, regardless of his age... a whole lot of players go through issues in their sophomore seasons. I think it would require a 3rd team involved and let Washington offload Mantha rather than giving him to us as a cap dump. I don't think we really need him. We can then use the cap space more wisely to fill a need (another D) To Washington: Kuzmenko To Vancouver: 2024 2nd round pick (from Washington) Iorio To 3rd team: 2024 2nd round pick (from Washington) Mantha It doesn't seem like a lot for us for Kuzmenko, but that cap space for a rental this season and to give more room in the offseason to sign someone makes a huge difference. If we make the playoffs and show reasonably well, there will be UFAs wanting to join the team for a chance to win. Edited December 21, 2023 by Provost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: Mantha would be in the pressbox here. They’re trying to win this season. There’s no way they trade for a player that also doesn’t forecheck. True.... what would point be, if you are trying to win, to trade a potential 30 goal scorer for a player that will be in the press box + a few picks? If anything we need a roster player back, that can help the team going forward ie this season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Mantha for Kuz Missile works for Alf. Then play Nantha with Petey. Big, tough, skilled winger. Yes, Alf is drunk. Of course!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I dont see a world where we trade him this season given that our cap woes will start to get much worse in the coming seasons. Maybe if the offer is too good to pass up. If he cant get his play to a level that Tocchet is happy with I think we will be more motivated to trade him this summer even if his value has decreased even more than it has already this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, Sell.the.team said: I dont see a world where we trade him this season given that our cap woes will start to get much worse in the coming seasons. Maybe if the offer is too good to pass up. If he cant get his play to a level that Tocchet is happy with I think we will be more motivated to trade him this summer even if his value has decreased even more than it has already this year. If we can get a big, tough, skilled, top line winger for Petey, then 100% Kuz Misdile is history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Miss Korea said: Lol watch us trade Kuzy for Bear I think Bear burnt his bridge with the Canucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Bob Long said: yea its not ideal, just don't see anyone coughing up a 1st or top 4 RHD for him either. I love our new scouting staff, I bet they could find a couple of gems with those picks, or Allvin does his thing and flips then for that final top 4 d we need. I don't think Kuz is going to be able to play the game RT wants him to. Let him play his own game and get his scoring back, then trade him. Would hate to see a player like that go for low value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, erkayloomeh said: I don't think Kuz is going to be able to play the game RT wants him to. Let him play his own game and get his scoring back, then trade him. Would hate to see a player like that go for low value. If we clear all the cap thats fine, we can reallocate it better. Still a win vs a bad situation for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, Bob Long said: If we clear all the cap thats fine, we can reallocate it better. Still a win vs a bad situation for him. I think at least part of the reason he's not performing is RT trying to put square peg in a round hole. I agree gaining cap and reallocation it would be good, but even better to get assets as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinch Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Kuzmenko for fresh hot OvenChicken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Way too early to give up on Kuzya. Way too early to trade him. Adversity forces people to adapt. Kuzmenko is trying but is lacking confidence and clear understanding about how to change his game. If he doesn't figure it out by the trade deadline, then maybe listen to offers, but don't just give him away. He has proven he can score goals, now he needs to learn the two way game that Tocchet demands. I think Allvin will be patient, but if he gets an offer that solves a problem or two, he'll certainly listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Maybe it's best to wait and see with Kuzmenko, and if by the TDL he still hasn't adapted to Tocchet's game, then trade him. Maybe the return would even be better at the TDL? Teams seem to be desperate to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Kuzmenko and Podz for Tom Wilson plsssssssssss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, Trebreh said: Kuzmenko and Podz for Tom Wilson plsssssssssss If Wilson didn’t just sign a crazy extension then yes. But his new contract is a club killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: If Wilson didn’t just sign a crazy extension then yes. But his new contract is a club killer. I know, I know but imagine Zadorov, Wilson, Joshua, Soucy and Myers, Miler in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Trebreh said: I know, I know but imagine Zadorov, Wilson, Joshua, Soucy and Myers, Miler in the playoffs. Got a couple years it sure would be nice to have Wilson on Petey’s wing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Got a couple years it sure would be nice to have Wilson on Petey’s wing. having big open ice hitters like Zad and Wilson on the team in the playoffs is an added threat to any potential opponent. We would be one of the grittiest teams in the playoff for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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