Alflives Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Jaimito said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 11 minutes ago, Dom said: Horvat GWG in OT. Boy oh boy would he look good as our 2C. I know I know, no Hronek without him being moved. We had JT, EP, Bo down the middle. Bruce said it was a great core to have. But it didn't work out that way. Nux got better without Bo. QH is a better captain, now comparing in retrospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Jaimito said: We had JT, EP, Bo down the middle. Bruce said it was a great core to have. But it didn't work out that way. Nux got better without Bo. QH is a better captain, now comparing in retrospect. Because Hughes values winning over contract. Fat Wallet was only about money. So glad this puck sucker in gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, Jaimito said: We had JT, EP, Bo down the middle. Bruce said it was a great core to have. But it didn't work out that way. Nux got better without Bo. QH is a better captain, now comparing in retrospect. Because we replaced him (or rather essentially the assets we got for dealing Horvat) with a *LEGIT* top 4 defenseman. Funny how having another guy in the top 4 that actually belongs there (without getting that job by default because there's nobody better in the roster) forces lesser defensemen on our roster down the depth charts has greater impact than what Hronek provides just by himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Because we replaced him (or rather essentially the assets we got for dealing Horvat) with a *LEGIT* top 4 defenseman. Funny how having another guy in the top 4 that actually belongs there (without getting that job by default because there's nobody better in the roster) forces lesser defensemen on our roster down the depth charts has greater impact than what Hronek provides just by himself. Hronek’s numbers this year show him to be a top 5-10 D man in the league. Horfat Wallet (and his obvious locker room issues) for a top 5-10 D man in the league is a friggin’ steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 How much more losing before the Krackheads owners realize Francis “The Talking Mule” sold them a lie and he is a puck sucker? My Goodness that team is craperolla. Vegas showed them how to win. Trade your picks and prospects for good NHLers. Begas stole the Sens best player. Then they stole the Sabres best player. Then they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: How much more losing before the Krackheads owners realize Francis “The Talking Mule” sold them a lie and he is a puck sucker? My Goodness that team is craperolla. Vegas showed them how to win. Trade your picks and prospects for good NHLers. Begas stole the Sens best player. Then they stole the Sabres best player. Then they won. lol kraken got the raw deal in the expansion.. sure all the so call rules are the same.. but Vegas got the benefit of every gm being clueless and panicked during the first expansion draft while every gm was well prepared for the 2nd time around. Literally 0 teams were offering trades or prospect to Seattle.. they are like take whatever don’t care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, wai_lai416 said: lol kraken got the raw deal in the expansion.. sure all the so call rules are the same.. but Vegas got the benefit of every gm being clueless and panicked during the first expansion draft while every gm was well prepared for the 2nd time around. Literally 0 teams were offering trades or prospect to Seattle.. they are like take whatever don’t care Trade prospects and picks for other clubs’ best players. Why can’t the Krackheads do that? Or are there just no more stupid GMs who will trade away superstar players like the Sens (Stone) and Sabres (Eichel) did? Isn’t it interesting how the Sens and Sabres continue to be horrid, even after drafting high for several years? That’s Craperolla management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Kissing up to the new boss eh Bo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 hours ago, Alflives said: Alf has a simple old formula for seeing how guys are performing. Add points and plus minus. Hughes: 56 + 34 = 90 Makar: 54 + 8 = 62 On a very good team Makar has struggled defensively. Hughes may have played for games up to this point, but Makar has missed a few so Hughes actually has 1 more game left this year than Makar. For what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Trade prospects and picks for other clubs’ best players. Why can’t the Krackheads do that? Or are there just no more stupid GMs who will trade away superstar players like the Sens (Stone) and Sabres (Eichel) did? Isn’t it interesting how the Sens and Sabres continue to be horrid, even after drafting high for several years? That’s Craperolla management. because the krakens didn't have what vegas have?? let see they literally got theodore smith kolesar tuch from trading picks they gained from other teams for selecting certain players.. on top of that they gained 2 1st rounder 1 2nd 3rd 4th rounder 2 5th and 1 6th.. they literally walked out of the expansion draft with 8 extra draft picks + their own 7 along with 4-5 extra players.. seattle walked out of the expansion draft with 0 extra picks and 0 extra players because 0 teams were willing to make the same mistake they did with vegas... vegas literally was gifted a competitive team along with infinite draft picks to make big moves.. they gained so much draft capital that's more than enough to trade for star players in the league.. seattle followed more of the traditional expansion team treatment and probably have to slowly build their way up.. there's literally no expansion that is remotely close to the advantage vegas got.. vegas would not have gotten that advantage if they entered the league 2nd after seattle because same thign would have happened no team would trade vegas to take certain players etc. Edited January 22 by wai_lai416 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I still can't believe Makar is only a +8 on one of the best teams in the NHL. Defensively, he has not been very good at all this year... lol that's not true.. he's only a +8 because their all star goalie is a sieve lol.. sub .900 sv% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Man, LA, what a mess. So many good things going on there, then the Pierre Luc Dudwois trade. Not looking good on the ice, and who knows what in that room. PLD seems to have a dark cloud following him wherever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 13 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: lol kraken got the raw deal in the expansion.. sure all the so call rules are the same.. but Vegas got the benefit of every gm being clueless and panicked during the first expansion draft while every gm was well prepared for the 2nd time around. Literally 0 teams were offering trades or prospect to Seattle.. they are like take whatever don’t care Vegas acquired their 3 best players via trade or free agency not through the expansion draft. They stole Mark Stone for a couple of plugs and a 2nd round pick. They got Pietrangelo for free from St. Louis. They traded a 1st round pick and Alex Tuch for Eichel. So basically it was a 1st, 2nd and Tuch for all 3 players. That’s what allowed them to win a cup. The expansion draft helped but it was all the moves afterwards that allowed them to win a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 18 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Vegas acquired their 3 best players via trade or free agency not through the expansion draft. They stole Mark Stone for a couple of plugs and a 2nd round pick. They got Pietrangelo for free from St. Louis. They traded a 1st round pick and Alex Tuch for Eichel. So basically it was a 1st, 2nd and Tuch for all 3 players. That’s what allowed them to win a cup. The expansion draft helped but it was all the moves afterwards that allowed them to win a cup. so you are telling me getting their cup mvp for free + getting smith and a draft pick didn't help get them to the final on their expansion year and getting theodore for free? the trade asset they used to trade for stone.. they aren't from the expansion draft?? they were able to amass a massive amount of picks and prospect that they turned into other players down the line in the future and have a very strong competitive team out of the gate to attract free agents.. that's a massive advantage right there over seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Maker Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/21/2024 at 2:13 PM, Hogs and Podz said: What about February til end of the season? About 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 TSN has the Oilers ranked #1 this week. The McDavid crush is in full bloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Bruins up 1 quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Jets tie it up real quick. Gonna be a barn burner at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 21 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: TSN has the Oilers ranked #1 this week. The McDavid crush is in full bloom. I mean, they've won 13 in a row. Tough to argue they aren't the hottest team in the league right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: so you are telling me getting their cup mvp for free + getting smith and a draft pick didn't help get them to the final on their expansion year and getting theodore for free? the trade asset they used to trade for stone.. they aren't from the expansion draft?? they were able to amass a massive amount of picks and prospect that they turned into other players down the line in the future and have a very strong competitive team out of the gate to attract free agents.. that's a massive advantage right there over seattle. I agree they had an advantage over Seattle. But they only were able to win the cup after some shrewd acquisitions from the management team. Stone for a second round pick. Pretty sure it was their own pick they traded. Same with the 1st for Eichel. Pietrangelo was free. At the end of the day, the Vegas management team is much better than the Seattle team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I agree they had an advantage over Seattle. But they only were able to win the cup after some shrewd acquisitions from the management team. Stone for a second round pick. Pretty sure it was their own pick they traded. Same with the 1st for Eichel. Pietrangelo was free. At the end of the day, the Vegas management team is much better than the Seattle team. We can’t really say one is better than the other when really it wasn’t started on level playing field stone was traded for one of the 1st rounders they got from the expansion draft from the islanders and doesn’t hurt to have the conn symth winner and one of your top defenceman in Theodore for free also much easier to be aggressive seeing how good ur team is vs Seattle 1st year didn’t look good and again this year very average. Not saying they’ll do what vegas did but if vegas was in seattles situation they might not be making those moves Edited January 23 by wai_lai416 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 21 hours ago, Jaimito said: Yippee Yi Coach Bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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