Bardown Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 23 minutes ago, Pears said: I'd be happy to give up a package that doesn't include Willander for exactly that reason. Prevent these assholes from cheating the cap and using it to load up again. If we gave up our first in 2025 plus Mikhayev and Maybe our second this year it would be a package they’d have to listen to i don’t like the idea of giving up any top prospects either and tbh there’s no need to go all in this year teams take a few runs to make it the finals, this year is about learning, getting at least to the second round, and building. the team that will be going all in will include the core now plus EP2, Lek, Podz, and Willander. We need to build until then and giving up futures is silly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewonder20 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Bardown said: If we gave up our first in 2025 plus Mikhayev and Maybe our second this year it would be a package they’d have to listen to i don’t like the idea of giving up any top prospects either and tbh there’s no need to go all in this year teams take a few runs to make it the finals, this year is about learning, getting at least to the second round, and building. the team that will be going all in will include the core now plus EP2, Lek, Podz, and Willander. We need to build until then and giving up futures is silly We don't have a first or second this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 #incelforGeuntzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck12 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Hammertime said: #incelforGeuntzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I hope we go for one of Pittsburgh's 2nd tier wingers like Rust, Rakell or Smith. 5m cap hits, we could easily flip them Mikheyev and then add something to sweeten the deal. Not sure what it would cost, surely a pick or prospect, hopefully a 2nd would be enough to get it done. Rust > Smith > Rakell would be nice, adding essentially a 20ish goal scorer to the mix lets us roll 3 solid lines with our centers spread across. Suter - Miller - Boeser Rust - Pettersson - Hoglander Garland - Lindholm - Joshua Lafferty - Blueger - Bains/PDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 12 hours ago, steviewonder20 said: We don't have a first or second this year. I said 2025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjickwillkillyou Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 18 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Because Blueger is better and should be a focus of one of the UFAs the Canucks bring back. Is he truly better if he is going to be getting more than Bjugstad on the open market? You cannot teach size and Bjugs is on a reasonable $2.1mil cap hit through 24/25 while Bluegs is sure to get at least that next season. Plus Bjugs is a righty which is also valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 36 minutes ago, Odjickwillkillyou said: Is he truly better if he is going to be getting more than Bjugstad on the open market? You cannot teach size and Bjugs is on a reasonable $2.1mil cap hit through 24/25 while Bluegs is sure to get at least that next season. Plus Bjugs is a righty which is also valuable. I quite like Bjugstad and he was one of my buy low options for 3C going into last summer. However, between the two of them I would take Blueger at $2.5M over Bjugstad at $2.1M. While Bjugstad has resurrected his career nicely after a few bad seasons, Blueger has consistently been one of the top defensive forwards in the league and I value that. Also Blueger is two years younger. While he will be looking for a raise I'me sure he also really values security. Something like $2.5M x 3 years is probably enough to lock him down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjickwillkillyou Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 41 minutes ago, Diamonds said: I quite like Bjugstad and he was one of my buy low options for 3C going into last summer. However, between the two of them I would take Blueger at $2.5M over Bjugstad at $2.1M. While Bjugstad has resurrected his career nicely after a few bad seasons, Blueger has consistently been one of the top defensive forwards in the league and I value that. Also Blueger is two years younger. While he will be looking for a raise I'me sure he also really values security. Something like $2.5M x 3 years is probably enough to lock him down. If we can get Bleugs at 2.5x3 sign me up. Hell if we can get both and play Bjugs as a 4C with Bleugs at 3C since re-signing Lindy does not seem likely I would jump all over that as a stop-gap for next season. Especially if we have Bains on his ELC and re-sign Daks. Would be ideal to have Raty or Podz in our bottom-6 on their contracts too. Hogz - Petey - UFA Suter>Bains>Podz - Millsy - Boes Garland - Bleugs - Joshua Suter - Bjugs - Podz>Bains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Odjickwillkillyou said: Is he truly better if he is going to be getting more than Bjugstad on the open market? You cannot teach size and Bjugs is on a reasonable $2.1mil cap hit through 24/25 while Bluegs is sure to get at least that next season. Plus Bjugs is a righty which is also valuable. according to allvin and tocchet, blueger has had an even greater impact in the dressing room than on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjickwillkillyou Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, tas said: according to allvin and tocchet, blueger has had an even greater impact in the dressing room than on the ice. Oh yeah I am sure that is one of the big reasons we have had so much team chemistry this season. We need guys like him just like we needed Manny in 2011. Depth guys who provide more than just on-ice performance and can lead the younger guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I hope they’re able to keep Lindholm at 3C because that gives us some very strong center depth. This management seems to be all about pairs. Miller-Boeser Petterssson- ? Lindholm-Garland Bleuger-Lafferty/PDG The last piece of the puzzle appears to be a duo for Pettersson. Hoglander and him have been good but Hoglander is not a play driver. We need another elite player in that spot. A Giroux or a Guentzel could put us over the top. Suter Miller Boeser Guentzel Petey Hoglander Joshua Lindholm Garland PDG Bleuger Lafferty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 4 hours ago, Bardown said: I said 2025 Nope, here’s a quote from your post: “Maybe our second this year it would be a package they’d have to listen to..” you referred to a first in 2025 but a second this year (2024). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I don't think we're going after anyone major up front at this point although we might go for more size on 3rd / 4th line. I'm looking forward to seeing a post deadline defense of: Hughes / Karlsson Zadorov / Hronek (until Soucy comes back) Cole / Juulsen Friedman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCheese Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: I don't think we're going after anyone major up front at this point although we might go for more size on 3rd / 4th line. I'm looking forward to seeing a post deadline defense of: Hughes / Karlsson Zadorov / Hronek (until Soucy comes back) Cole / Juulsen Friedman Karlsson there no hwayyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 7 hours ago, steviewonder20 said: Nope, here’s a quote from your post: “Maybe our second this year it would be a package they’d have to listen to..” you referred to a first in 2025 but a second this year (2024). Oh great! A typo! I said this inatead of next do you want a ribbon? amazing how you have nothing more productive to do always great to focus on anything other than the substance of a post Edited February 27 by Bardown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Bardown said: Oh great! A typo! I said this inatead of next do you want a ribbon? amazing how you have nothing more productive to do always great to focus on anything other than the substance of a post Some people can admit mistakes; others get defensive: you posted something that can’t happen (2024 2nd) i pointed out the error you denied making an error I provided you with your actual quote rather than acknowledging it, you ask if I want a ribbon really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Just now, steviewonder20 said: Some people can admit mistakes; others get defensive: you posted something that can’t happen (2024 2nd) i pointed out the error you denied making an error I provided you with your actual quote rather than acknowledging it, you ask if I want a ribbon really? You sound like the type going around twitter being a grammar Nazi. well if we don’t have a second this year, clearly it’s an error or typo therefore, you can say “we don’t have a second this year (as you can see my train of thought was 2025), but we could give 2025 and here’s my thought on that suggestion instead you worry about what’s clearly a typo and go on and on about it go for walk dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bardown said: You sound like the type going around twitter being a grammar Nazi. well if we don’t have a second this year, clearly it’s an error or typo therefore, you can say “we don’t have a second this year (as you can see my train of thought was 2025), but we could give 2025 and here’s my thought on that suggestion instead you worry about what’s clearly a typo and go on and on about it go for walk dude Most people who make an error simply say sorry and correct the error. Have a nice life. Edited February 27 by steviewonder20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Mik + 1st 2025 (top 10 protected) for Guentzel + 3rd 2025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Bardown said: Oh great! A typo! I said this inatead of next do you want a ribbon? amazing how you have nothing more productive to do always great to focus on anything other than the substance of a post Take the loss. Move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 47 minutes ago, BPA said: Mik + 1st 2025 (top 10 protected) for Guentzel + 3rd 2025 Why would Pitts add a 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I don't know how the Canucks could afford Guentzel. Another rental?? We're going for rentals, with no promise of a Cup coming home, and we'll be hard pressed against the cap, unable to afford these free agents that are like half the roster. Maybe there's good reason for Petey to hesitate from signing long term. What's the team going to look like next season? Are they going to be winners or losers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 hours ago, DeNiro said: I hope they’re able to keep Lindholm at 3C because that gives us some very strong center depth. This management seems to be all about pairs. Miller-Boeser Petterssson- ? Lindholm-Garland Bleuger-Lafferty/PDG The last piece of the puzzle appears to be a duo for Pettersson. Hoglander and him have been good but Hoglander is not a play driver. We need another elite player in that spot. A Giroux or a Guentzel could put us over the top. Suter Miller Boeser Guentzel Petey Hoglander Joshua Lindholm Garland PDG Bleuger Lafferty I mean, Petey did have Miller on his line for a while, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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