Blitz-Pix Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) At this point, I find myself hoping someone else (in the East) trades for Guentzel quickly. Sometimes when you have to long to think about something you talk yourself into it. LOL If he's off the table, we can hold onto our top prospects and move onto depth trades. Realistically we've been upgrading our team all season, Desmith, Zadorov, Lindholm...don't know that we need to make a big splash at the deadline. If we can't get it done in the playoffs we can address where we came up short in the off season. At least we'll have most of our top prospects to address some of those areas (if any) Edited March 3 by Blitz-Pix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 12 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: At this point, I find myself hoping someone else (in the East) trades for Guentzel quickly. Sometimes when you have to long to think about something you talk yourself into it. LOL If he's off the table, we can hold onto our top prospects and move onto depth trades. Realistically we've been upgrading our team all season, Desmith, Zadorov, Lindholm...don't know that we need to make a big splash at the deadline. If we can't get it done in the playoffs we can address where we came up short in the off season. At least we'll have most of our top prospects to address some of those areas (if any) We won't have much cap left if we decide to re-sign some of our FA's ...No better time then now to stock up and make a run! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Toffoli kind of feels like the better fit. We know he did well with our core centres including Lindholm. He has thrived under coaches like Tocch as well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, DrJockitch said: Toffoli kind of feels like the better fit. We know he did well with our core centres including Lindholm. He has thrived under coaches like Tocch as well. Totally agree but I keep hearing NJ is a buyer so I wonder of they would even part with him; however, given how far they are out of the playoffs, hopefully he is an option for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: At this point, I find myself hoping someone else (in the East) trades for Guentzel quickly. Sometimes when you have to long to think about something you talk yourself into it. LOL If he's off the table, we can hold onto our top prospects and move onto depth trades. Realistically we've been upgrading our team all season, Desmith, Zadorov, Lindholm...don't know that we need to make a big splash at the deadline. If we can't get it done in the playoffs we can address where we came up short in the off season. At least we'll have most of our top prospects to address some of those areas (if any) Honestly, I'm completely fine if we don't make another sizeable addition I've always been more bullish on the importance of picks, prospects, and development than some, I'm not interested in our mortgaging the future Guentzel doesn't guarantee us anything, folks would do well to keep the fact that an all-time winning Bruins team got punted out in the first round in mind when considering big deadline trades Edited March 3 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Canuck You said: We won't have much cap left if we decide to re-sign some of our FA's ...No better time then now to stock up and make a run! Your post works for both viewpoints, depending on if your pro or con for trading for Guentzel. We won't have much Cap space regardless if we add him or not. If we do trade for him we're just in a deeper hole this off season with less prospects. If we don't trade for him at least we'll have some prospects on ELC that we can let some of our FA walk, if we can't get them signed. Edited March 3 by Blitz-Pix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 8 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Toffoli kind of feels like the better fit. We know he did well with our core centres including Lindholm. He has thrived under coaches like Tocch as well. I totally agree and have suggested the same thing, Don't know the cost to aquire him though. It could be ridiculous as well. LOL Worth checking into though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Honestly, they might be better off poking at Vatrano, not that he'd be cheap either If nothing else they'd get this season and next out of his present cap hit, he'd be due for a solid raise though Almost at 30g already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 42 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Well, if he doesn't resign with us, some other GM in the league is bound to be silly enough to offer him close to what he's asking for. I can see him walk for sure. We can't be paying Lindholm 8-9M to anchor the third line. That's absurd and not a good use of the cap or the money that we have. We could find or sign in free agency a better fit than that. And besides, Lindholm hasn't been that great offensively either. If he wants the bag, then he's gotta produce, and he hasn't done that consistenly enough up to this date. I mean that's not how you run a business or anything though. We can't be making decisions and handing out deals based on what other gm's might do? It's true we could lose all of our FA's Dak, Spluger, Zad, Laffer, Cole, Myers and Lindy if some other GM backs a truck up. We shouldn't partake in a bidding war when the numbers no longer work for our club it's time to walk away. That's why we have a pro scouting department. Of the guys mentioned only Dak and Myers were with our club before this year. And here we are. It's peoples jobs to find others to plug those holes. Lindy won't get 8+ mill anywhere, and if he does it won't be from us. I believe this MGMT knows when to hold and when to fold no matter the pot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Would rather see Greenway ($3M) and Toffoli ($4.25M) for depth in the forward group. Greenway Miller Boeser Toffoli EP Lindholm DJ Blueger Garland Hogs Suter Laff/xx Could also put Lindholm on a purely defensive line depending on the match-ups, etc. Out Mik ($4.75M) In Toffoli ($3.19M - 25% retained) Greenway ($3M) That leaves a difference of approximately $1.44M, which I believe they will be able to cover with existing cap space, a demotion, cap gymnastics, etc. Their long homestand and minimal travel should allow for some flexibility given the teams proximity to the Abby Canucks (i.e. call ups). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Re Guentzel now that Pete's signed I think I'm out on him. I would however still be in on Wilson and Giroux if we were able to send Mik the other way as part of the package. Those are really the only 2 big ticket guys I'm interested in. I still say we don't need more offence. Miller, Pete, Brock, Lindy, Hog, Garland is enough firepower for 3 waves. Ya our PP sucks but that's on the boys to figure that shit out with the talent on the ice it should be one of the best in the league. We don't need to put icing on our muffin and make our squad a cupcake. In the playoffs cups are won by winning 2-1 not 7-5 it's the 2-1 games that separate the contenders from the pretenders and swing a series. I'm going to keep spamming this. The guys I'm pining after to add to our group are Clutterbuck, Beck Malenstein, Brandon Duhaime, Colton Sissons, Sam Carrick guys who are going to help us win a 7 game war in the trenches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Hammertime said: Re Guentzel now that Pete's signed I think I'm out on him. I would however still be in on Wilson and Giroux if we were able to send Mik the other way as part of the package. Those are really the only 2 big ticket guys I'm interested in. I still say we don't need more offence. Miller, Pete, Brock, Lindy, Hog, Garland is enough firepower for 3 waves. Ya our PP sucks but that's on the boys to figure that shit out with the talent on the ice it should be one of the best in the league. We don't need to put icing on our muffin and make our squad a cupcake. In the playoffs cups are won by winning 2-1 not 7-5 it's the 2-1 games that separate the contenders from the pretenders and swing a series. I'm going to keep spamming this. The guys I'm pining after to add to our group are Clutterbuck, Beck Malenstein, Brandon Duhaime, Colton Sissons, Sam Carrick guys who are going to help us win a 7 game war in the trenches. Trenin as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 15 minutes ago, NoCupSyndrome said: Would rather see Greenway ($3M) and Toffoli ($4.25M) for depth in the forward group. Greenway Miller Boeser Toffoli EP Lindholm DJ Blueger Garland Hogs Suter Laff/xx Could also put Lindholm on a purely defensive line depending on the match-ups, etc. Out Mik ($4.75M) In Toffoli ($3.19M - 25% retained) Greenway ($3M) That leaves a difference of approximately $1.44M, which I believe they will be able to cover with existing cap space, a demotion, cap gymnastics, etc. Their long homestand and minimal travel should allow for some flexibility given the teams proximity to the Abby Canucks (i.e. call ups). The issue I have with Greenway is he's just not very good. If the price is right of course sure but I just feel like he's a player someone will over pay for and then realize he's not as good as they thought he was. He's more bark than bite. and doesn't have the skill around the net to be a Dave Boland let alone Buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 1/4/2024 at 6:20 AM, ABNuck said: I seem to recall a couple of other high flying penguins (Brown and Stevens) who crashed to earth after leaving the wings of a great (some say the greatest) setup man...what happen to Jake with no Sid? Is it really worth cashing out our future and possibly ending up with a bust? I know...nothing ventured, nothing gained...BUT...is our team really in that desperate a need this year? We will need those cheaper contracts next year if we're to stay competitive, so why give up an ELC and a reasonable contract (under 2mil) to potentially re-sign a player to 8+mil? Sorry sports fans, but this would make no sense...UNLESS...the management team already knows Petey is out the door. Heh, BJ MacDonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combover Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I’d like to toffoli and duhaime ep miller boeser tof Lind hog dak blue gar laff sut duhaime The Canucks , Lindy, miller and others have a history with tof he’d be cheaper that Jake G If the cap would work mik in place of laff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Honestly, I'm completely fine if we don't make another sizeable addition I've always been more bullish on the importance of picks, prospects, and development than some, I'm not interested in our mortgaging the future Guentzel doesn't guarantee us anything, folks would do well to keep the fact that an all-time winning Bruins team got punted out in the first round in mind when considering big deadline trades Lindholm is still adjusting but as it stands it hasn't been an upgrade. Our winning percentage is much worse since the trade. I'm typically not a fan of big deadline splashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Blitz-Pix said: At this point, I find myself hoping someone else (in the East) trades for Guentzel quickly. Sometimes when you have to long to think about something you talk yourself into it. LOL If he's off the table, we can hold onto our top prospects and move onto depth trades. Realistically we've been upgrading our team all season, Desmith, Zadorov, Lindholm...don't know that we need to make a big splash at the deadline. If we can't get it done in the playoffs we can address where we came up short in the off season. At least we'll have most of our top prospects to address some of those areas (if any) Yeah, I am kinda leaning this way myself now that we have the bulk of our core signed It doesn't have to be a chips all in season We made big improvements in 1 season (which I didn't think was possible) I am not nervous whatever they decide to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, NoCupSyndrome said: Totally agree but I keep hearing NJ is a buyer so I wonder of they would even part with him; however, given how far they are out of the playoffs, hopefully he is an option for the Canucks. Jersey stinks. Be foolish of them to be a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, NoCupSyndrome said: Totally agree but I keep hearing NJ is a buyer so I wonder of they would even part with him; however, given how far they are out of the playoffs, hopefully he is an option for the Canucks. Being a buyer while being 8 points out seems kind of silly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 46 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: Lindholm is still adjusting but as it stands it hasn't been an upgrade. Our winning percentage is much worse since the trade. I'm typically not a fan of big deadline splashes. That's the other thing, players don't acclimatize immediately all the time, and Lindholm is a better player offensively than he's looked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Jersey stinks. Be foolish of them to be a buyer. I wonder if they like Petey's new shiny affordable contract in trade for Luke and Jack now? Huh? Petey is looking pretty sweet for 8 years! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Pettersson - Miller - Boeser Hoglander - Lindholm - Vatrano Joshua - Blueger - Garland Lafferty - Suter - Duhaime Kessel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: Pettersson - Miller - Boeser Hoglander - Lindholm - Vatrano Joshua - Blueger - Garland Lafferty - Suter - Duhaime Kessel That is a waste of Pettersson. Miller and Brock dont need him, Petey can center now that the contract monkey is off his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, VintageActualCanuckfan said: That is a waste of Pettersson. Miller and Brock dont need him, Petey can center now that the contract monkey is off his back. Faceoffs Lindholm - 55.8% Miller - 55% Pettersson - 49.3% Edited March 3 by Nucker67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUSK v2.0 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, I.Am.Ironman said: Lindholm is still adjusting but as it stands it hasn't been an upgrade. Our winning percentage is much worse since the trade. I'm typically not a fan of big deadline splashes. One guy is the cause of the losing streak? ha ha ha if only one guy had so much power! He could ask for 20 mil x 8 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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