The Lock Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Where was Dakota Joshua when he was 24? In the AHL? Joshua didn’t even break out until he was 27. McBain is only 24. He will get much better. Just because you can name 1 player having done the unlikely in Joshua, it doesn't mean you can just name another player and that player would do the same thing. It's a lot more complicated than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Canucks to Prospects: 1. Lekkeremaki 2. Willander 3. D Petey 4. Bains - ahl asg mvp 5. Silovs - recall word championship 6.Raty - ahl 37 pts in 52 gsmes 7. Podz 8. Sassons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 19 minutes ago, The Lock said: Just because you can name 1 player having done the unlikely in Joshua, it doesn't mean you can just name another player and that player would do the same thing. It's a lot more complicated than that. True. But McBain has done more than Joshua did up until age 24. McBain was even put on Arizona’s top line for awhile this year. He is similar to Joshua in terms of how he plays the game. He’s a better skater though and a harder hitter and a better fighter. I think he is worth taking a look at for sure. Tocchet will love him and turn him into an even better player than Joshua. In fact, if Joshua demands too much money he might be Joshua’s replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 19 minutes ago, canucks curse said: Canucks to Prospects: 1. Lekkeremaki 2. Willander 3. D Petey 4. Bains - ahl asg mvp 5. Silovs - recall word championship 6.Raty - ahl 37 pts in 52 gsmes 7. Podz 8. Sassons I'd have to believe that Lekkerimaki and Willander are off limits. Everyone else is game, if management is serious about acquiring Guentzel. If they give up Lekkerimaki and Willander, I think we're in trouble moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 27 minutes ago, Dizzle said: That is super uncommon. McBain is worth a 4th or a depth prospect. Guy would be hard pressed to be on our 4th line. Bigger players take longer to develop. Tage Thompson also got traded and bounced around until he was 24/25. I disagree about how he wouldn’t even make our team. I would literally play him with Petey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) My preference is Toffoli over Guentzel, but 2 players I hope we pursue are Will Borgen from SEA and Jordan Greenway from BUF for solid playoff depth options. Toffoli would just be a rental but I imagine Mikheyev and 2nd/3rd is his cost, and each of Borgen (2.5 mill cap hit expiring end of next season) and Greenway (3mill cap hit expiring end of next season but next year has NMC) may possibly be had for a 3rd rounder. If we’re going all in, we can still do so by minimizing cost of acquisition all the while obtaining value adds. Would be tight fit under cap for this year but those 3 combined I think provide sufficient coverage for a playoff run and a solid base framework for insulation against any potential exiting players/expiring contracts at season end and onwards going into next season. Borgen plays RD but could take over Cole’s spot should he sign elsewhere, and is about the same size and plays a similar game. Greenway would slide into a portion of the Toffoli cap space, can play either side W, and would add such a valuable combo of size and skill into our top 9. If the 3rd line is blown up in the offseason and Garland traded and/or Blueger Joshua price themselves out of range, then we have at least leveraged against some of that loss with Greenway on our roster. Just both solid options imho. Edited March 4 by RWJC 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 25 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Bigger players take longer to develop. Tage Thompson also got traded and bounced around until he was 24/25. I disagree about how he wouldn’t even make our team. I would literally play him with Petey. You're out to lunch on this one... hard. Thompson was a first round pick. He isn't a comparable for McBain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: I'd have to believe that Lekkerimaki and Willander are off limits. Everyone else is game, if management is serious about acquiring Guentzel. If they give up Lekkerimaki and Willander, I think we're in trouble moving forward. D Petey I think is also untouchable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Bigger players take longer to develop. Tage Thompson also got traded and bounced around until he was 24/25. I disagree about how he wouldn’t even make our team. I would literally play him with Petey. That is Podz place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, canucks curse said: D Petey I think is also untouchable I think he's an important prospect, but I don't think he can be classified as untouchable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck12 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, canucks curse said: D Petey I think is also almost untouchable There, fixed it for ya. That being said, I really hope they don't trade him too. Him and Willander would make a great future D pair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardown Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, canucks curse said: Canucks to Prospects: 1. Lekkeremaki 2. Willander 3. D Petey 4. Bains - ahl asg mvp 5. Silovs - recall word championship 6.Raty - ahl 37 pts in 52 gsmes 7. Podz 8. Sassons Sell high on Bains 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dom Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Jaimito said: I don't understand this one.. another tiny guy, we need a hulking top 6. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Dom said: I don't understand this one.. another tiny guy, we need a hulking top 6. A “tiny guy” that was a key contributor in winning a cup. Last time I checked the reigning conn Smythe winner is a tiny guy. We need guys that can put the puck in the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Dom said: I don't understand this one.. another tiny guy, we need a hulking top 6. Tiny guy score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jaimito said: On Friedman's 32 thoughts he mentioned that Dubas would prefer two prospects vs a prospect and a 1st, they want players who will fit sooner than later Maybe one would be Podz, but I question who the other would be I question the trade value of other forward prospects not named Lekkerimaki, maybe Raty, and that of D not named Willander and Pettersson Could see them asking for Hoglander too, he fits the bill as a young NHL forward with upside Pittsburgh's ask may be what closes the door for us https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32-thoughts-a-note-on-every-team-to-open-trade-deadline-week/ Edited March 4 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Lemon Face said: Tiny guy score And plays REALLY good 2 way hockey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Déjà Vu Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: A “tiny guy” that was a key contributor in winning a cup. Last time I checked the reigning conn Smythe winner is a tiny guy. We need guys that can put the puck in the net. yup, hes a playoff beast, thats were he becomes a demon, why JR likes him so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: A “tiny guy” that was a key contributor in winning a cup. Last time I checked the reigning conn Smythe winner is a tiny guy. We need guys that can put the puck in the net. Yup who played with the best in the world in Crosby. Have a feeling this is another Lindholm. Plus A LOT of other teams after him - would rather not blow up the prospect pool. Edited March 4 by Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Dom said: I don't understand this one.. another tiny guy, we need a hulking top 6. Would rather the team grab Brad Duhaime and Jordan Greenway for the fourth line, and Erik Johnson for the defense. Move Aman, PDG down to Abbotsford, and trade Mikeyev and Cole. Miller - Pettersson - Boeser Suter - Lindholm - Hoglander Joshua - Blueger - Garland Duhaime - Lafferty - Greenway Podkolzin Hughes - Hronek Soucy - Zadorov Myers - Johnson Juulsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Even if he's too much to get, I'm still confident the management will find a good plan B. Edited March 4 by Jaimito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 12 minutes ago, Jaimito said: If it removes Mikheyev and his future cap hit from the lineup, then it's basically 2 birds with 1 stone: 1. Acquiring a top 6 goal scorer. 2. Removing future cap commitment and increasing flexibility for re-signing UFAs/RFAs (read: cap dump). From that perspective, I can see why PA/JR are considering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Dom said: Yup who played with the best in the world in Crosby. Have a feeling this is another Lindholm. Plus A LOT of other teams after him - would rather not blow up the prospect pool. Considering we don't have many blue chip prospects with trade value, I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Jaimito said: Even he's too much to get, I'm still confident the management will find a good plan B. Very true. They have a methodology and strategy to their moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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