Blue Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 26 minutes ago, Ballisticsports said: We could have lost 3-1 I am sure coaches are making the right call for the best team on ice How many teams behind us in goals? How many teams let in more goals? How many teams behind us? Where have we been last 10 yrs in standings? The winning percentage is a fair bit better with Kuzmenko in the lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, -Buzzsaw- said: If the team is organized and playing well, it finds a way to get it done. every night, 98-0 or fire the coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, N4ZZY said: feels like Miller hasn't been producing offensively quite as much as he was to start the year. Year just started 4 days ago, give him a break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 @Elias Pettersson Found these numbers on reddit. With Kuzmenko playing: 22-8-2 71.88% Without Kuzmenko playing: 2-3-1 41.67% The 3 losses are against Calgary, San Jose and St. Louis (the OTL against Dallas). The decision to scratch Kuzy is not the cause of these losses, but it can't be a coincidence either. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Without dreams, life just doesn’t exist… Life sucks after a loss. Even more so after an early start time because that just means we're brooding for longer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: feels like Miller hasn't been producing offensively quite as much as he was to start the year. did you think he was going to put up 150 points this year? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: feels like Miller hasn't been producing offensively quite as much as he was to start the year. Miller has 20 points in his last 17 games. He’s the best 2C in hockey. Not sure what else he is supposed to be doing… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: With what cap? I thought it was pretty obvious we couldn’t keep both. I'm not sure if it was about not being able to keep both, or management just choosing one over the other. I think they could have kept both if they wanted, but I don't think it would've made sense to keep both at 8M each. Where would the money go for the defense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Miller has 20 points in his last 17 games. He’s the best 2C in hockey. Not sure what else he is supposed to be doing… Always more pressure to produce more lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiomomesso Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The Highest scoring team in the league with 2 goals against usually gets a win or loser point in most games. But with 43 games left I’m sure the boys can win 23-25 if they clamp down and score big clutch goals late in these tight games. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamesB Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 Close, hard-fought game, generally well-played by both teams. Obviously the game could have gone either way and one mistake or lucky bounce could make the difference. This time is was a late mistake (blown coverage) that decided the game. Disappointing to get the loss, but the Canucks have had more than their share of lucky bounces and opponent mistakes so it is hard to be too upset about this one. Other comments: 1. Before the game, I thought the local media coverage was much too confident. Given the level of parity in the league, on any given night the worst team can beat the best team and St. Louis is a long way from being the worst team and the Canucks are not the best team. 2. As usual, the Canucks were outshot but were slightly ahead in expected goals and in 5-on-5 Corsi. And I bet the Canucks had more O-zone time than the Blues. The Canucks would rather hold the puck in the O-zone rather than take a low probability shot. That is probably a good thing. 3. In the Hockey StatCards and in Natural Stat Trick, the Petey line (with Lafferty and Mik) came out poorly and the Aman line came out pretty well. But all the lines were pretty even in the advanced stats -- as close as I have seen all year. However, the pivotal play of the game -- the winning goal by Thomas -- looked like a defensive breakdown by the 4th line. I am not sure who was supposed to cover Thomas, but it looked like it should have been Aman. 4. As the away team, the Canucks could not do a hard match against the Thomas line but the Miller line got a lot more time than any other line and did well. I like Suter with Miller and Boeser. At least Suter and Miller were good. Boeser seems to have lost some energy in his game. 5. One thing I noticed was an early 2 on 1 with Petey and Lafferty. The D-man played the pass, leaving the goalie to handle the shooter but, instead of taking the shot, Lafferty tried to pass through the D-man to Petey and the play died without a shot on net. I can understand why Lafferty made the pass, but he should have taken the shot. 6. As for the D, things have stabilized. Hughes, skated miles and was very good, and his partner (Hronek) also looked good. But I noticed several plays Hughes made a play that made Hronek look good whereas with most partners Hronek would have looked bad for being out of position or making a questionable pass. Still, Hronek can take some risks precisely because Hughes is his partner. Juulsen was hurt blocking a shot and ended up playing only 11 minutes. And he had a negative corsi differential. Zadorov had the largest Corsi differential: 18 to 25 against and I noticed quite a few mistakes from him. 7. If Soucy is healthy I really think he should come back in. The D has generally been good but Soucy would have to be an upgrade on Juulsen, Zadorov, Cole, or Myers. I predict Juulsen comes out. 8. The big "controversy' was the decision to bench Kuzy in favor of an AHL call-up (Karlsson). I get why Tocchet is doing it but in a game where the Canucks desperately needed a bit more offence it is ironic to leave Kuzy in the press box. I mentioned last game (vs. Ottawa) that Kuzy looked too slow and was not getting in on the forecheck. But with PDG injured, I though Kuzy would play tonight. Anyway, I think Kuzy comes back in next game. Let's hope he has a good game. I just don't know if he can play the Tocchet system effectively. Overall, a disappointing loss and the Canucks need to come back strong in the next one. 2 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: @Elias Pettersson Found these numbers on reddit. With Kuzmenko playing: 22-8-2 71.88% Without Kuzmenko playing: 2-3-1 41.67% The 3 losses are against Calgary, San Jose and St. Louis (the OTL against Dallas). The decision to scratch Kuzy is not the cause of these losses, but it can't be a coincidence either. I wonder if they have the stats for powerplays with and without Kuz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Nice work @JamesB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Blue said: I wonder if they have the stats for powerplays with and without Kuz. I hope he's in the next game. They need his scoring, even at the expense of his defensive play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Miller has 20 points in his last 17 games. He’s the best 2C in hockey. Not sure what else he is supposed to be doing… 2 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Always more pressure to produce more lol. Does not matter your profession, nobody on this planet ever has, or ever will be a top level producer at there work for a year straight and never miss a beat. Including Mr. Miller who we are very lucky to have on this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: @Elias Pettersson Found these numbers on reddit. With Kuzmenko playing: 22-8-2 71.88% Without Kuzmenko playing: 2-3-1 41.67% The 3 losses are against Calgary, San Jose and St. Louis (the OTL against Dallas). The decision to scratch Kuzy is not the cause of these losses, but it can't be a coincidence either. At the end of the day, Allvin needs to make some decisions here. Scratching Kuzy multiple times to send a message and then losing most of those games where he is scratched is not a good look on Tocchet. Also, Milstein must be pissed right now. It’s not a good situation and I’m afraid it is going to boil over sooner than later. I mean we won the game against Ottawa and then Kuzy gets scratched so Tocchet can play an AHL player. This is not going to end well IMO… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Kuz sat. Nux lacked offense. Hmm. Maybe Tocchet should rethink the one size fits all. How much forechecking did Guy Lafleur do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, Blue said: I wonder if they have the stats for powerplays with and without Kuz. I think anyone can do what Kuzmenko does on the powerplay. He scored 39 goals despite a lack of chemistry/flow on that powerplay unit. Conor Garland has been getting a couple more looks on the 1st unit so I'm not expecting Kuzy to be back there anytime soon. I don't even know what 0% means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Knights are getting beat down. Red Wings are tied with the Kings. If we escape the night with both losing, that would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) Petey, Miller, Boeser, Huggy had all the chances and didnt bury them or even get it on net. Thought overall team played well but lacked execution to finish. Its clear though, they need to figure out if Kuzmenko is going to be a solution for this team. If not, find one who can be. Edited January 5 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I hope he's in the next game. They need his scoring, even at the expense of his defensive play. on the contrary, they've put themselves in a position where they can afford to risk struggling a bit offensively in the interest of helping kuzmenko to become the best player and the canucks the best team they can be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, fanfor42 said: Kuz sat. Nux lacked offense. Hmm. Maybe Tocchet should rethink the one size fits all. How much forechecking did Guy Lafleur do? Panarin doesn’t even know where the defensive zone is and some people in the media are saying he is a Hart trophy nominee. Kaprizov couldn’t back check to save his life… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, fanfor42 said: Kuz sat. Nux lacked offense. Hmm. Maybe Tocchet should rethink the one size fits all. How much forechecking did Guy Lafleur do? guy lafleur played at a time when you could chain smoke between periods. hockey is much much harder now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 15 minutes ago, Gurn said: It would be do-able- if they weren't paying $5.5 mill for a guy to sit in the press box. Still 3 million short. Not gonna sign Soucy or Cole? Or maybe Suter and Bleuger? We’re second in the league in scoring. We’re doing just fine without Bo’s offense. The depth we got by not re-signing him is a big reason why we’re first in the division. Not to mention new leadership. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captkirk888 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Malibu said: Frickin Boeser is like an 8 year old Howie Meeker grad, Control the puck, look to see if theres an opening, aim and ...oops theres nuthin to shoot at???? Well fire anyway. 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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