KFAN Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: damn Pretty sad to see Petey and Mik down so low in this graph, but it is a reflection of their play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, Jaimito said: Suter was a winger today. Agreed FO were terrible. Can't chase all game. Get Sutter or Malhotra back as faceoff coach. Well that’s a dumb decision by the coaching staff then. Aman over Sutr to play center? Yeah does not make any sense. Not playing Kuzmenko and playing Karlson is a head scratcher too. I have not noticed Karlson in any game he’s played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, tas said: I'm not going to have this discussion with a second person. Then why did you come back at me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 16 minutes ago, -Buzzsaw- said: Why Kuzmenko benched in favour of Aman and Karlsson????? Sorry, but that is complete nonsense, and clearly Tocchet has a mental block when it comes to understanding Kuzmenko's value. The team is having trouble scoring goals... WHY REMOVE A PROVEN SCORER??? If Tocchet is concerned about defense on the Pettersson line, then put someone else in place of Mikheyev... but leave Kuzzy on the line. Better yet, leave both Mikheyev and Kuzzy on the line and let them play. The first 15 games of the season the line was on fire... yes, it was Mikheyev who was scoring, but who cares... leave them together. Now Mikheyev has cooled off, and Lafferty is not a fit... he just does not have the skills. Tocchet needs to take a ton of laxatives, and just blow out all his bullsh*t ideas about Kuzzy. Yep. Tocchet is trying to win 1/0. He really brought out the tweeners tonight. Good thing we traded Tanner Pearson. Tocchet would have him welded into the top 6. Because he's a good tweener. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchet.A.Hockey.God Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 3 minutes ago, tas said: what information at eyoy.providing me that I was ignorant of? the word loss? read between the lines, guy. for the sake of a bet, you can't call an otl an l be ause they aren't equivalent. Legend x - Clinched Playoff spot y - Clinched Division p - President's Trophy z - Clinched Conference GP - Games Played W - Wins (worth two points) L - Losses (worth zero points) OT - OT/Shootout losses (worth one point) PTS - Points P% - Points Percentage RW - Regulation Wins ROW - Regulation plus Overtime Wins GF - Goals For GA - Goals Against This legend is on the NHL standings page there are no ties in the NHL anymore Edited January 5 by CanuckFanForever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeknows Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Nah. Kuzy was playing in the KHL his whole career. "Score goals" was all they ever asked of him, but there are still aspects of the NHL game he needs to learn to stay in the line up. Tocchet et al. know what they are doing. "Tanking value" is not their concern... nor should it be. If they are icing guys like Karlsson and Aman it's because they've shown they can do the job at a more consistent basis than others, whether Kuzy or anyone else. 'Show you can do the job and you get rewarded.' The way it should be on any good team. You made sense until the last paragraph. Aman and Karlsson are showing they can do the job beterr than Kuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, CanuckMan said: Canucks need to trade for a 2nd line center. Put Petey on Millers line so we have a true 1st line of Boeser Miller Petey And a 2nd line of Mikheyev NEW GUY Kuzmenko. have they tried Kuzmenko with Boeser and Miller this year? I think you hit it. Sad too because people are saying that our second line center might get 12 million. I don't see him leading any line to be honest. Your right he needs to be on the wing of a play driving center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Blue said: And we had Hronek trash talkers in the game thread. Hronek is the Lumme of this age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The Canucks had more scoring chances than the Blues. Less shots, more chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Gurn said: Then why did you come back at me? hoped you would catch the drift, but alas, here we are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Sika21 said: Elias Lindholm for Kuzmenko+ Plus what? Better be a big plus, or Conroy is hanging up on you. We don't really want Kuz at the moment so why would another team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 24 minutes ago, CanuckMan said: Not going to win on most nights with that effort. Lots of sloppy play. The NJD will rip us a new one if we play like that again. Put Kuzmenko back in the line up and LEAVE him there for more than 1-2 games. Canucks need to look for a 2nd line center. Throw Petterson on the wing. Guy can’t win a faceoff to save his life. Boeser Miller Petey Mikheyev NEW GUY Kuzmenko Joshua Bluegar Garland Lafferty Sutr Hoglander OR put Juulsen on the 4th line when Soucy comes back. This team needs some more bite. Boeser - Miller - Pettersson Garland - Lindholm - Mikheyev Joshua - Blueger - Hoglander Lafferty - Suter - Aman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I think they gotta find a way to split up Hughes and Hronek when Soucy is back. It was great early on but our other pairs just aren’t proficient enough at moving the puck. And when Hughes is out there he’s the one handling the puck 99% of the time. Kind of wastes Hronek’s offensive abilities. Hughes Cole Soucy Hronek Zadorov Myers Would like to see this. Have they tried Cole with Hughes at all? Pretty sure Cole has played with good puck movers in the past. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, ronning4center said: I think you hit it. Sad too because people are saying that our second line center might get 12 million. I don't see him leading any line to be honest. Your right he needs to be on the wing of a play driving center. Unpopular opinion for sure because people always praise Petey’s 2 way defensive play and Selke Calibre play. But when I think Selke Trophy I think of guys like Kopitar/Bergeron. Guys that can actually win a faceoff to save their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 21 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: you can't get lucky if you don't make chances in hockey Canucks had a bunch of point blank chances, especially in third, this was overall poor execution at both ends and they ran into a team interested in working as hard as them tonight. EP was meh, Hughes was really good but not other worldly like he is some times, Miller had a bunch of changes, Brock, Milky, Hronek were meh or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: I think they gotta find a way to split up Hughes and Hronek when Soucy is back. Yes please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, CanuckFanForever said: Legend x - Clinched Playoff spot y - Clinched Division p - President's Trophy z - Clinched Conference GP - Games Played W - Wins (worth two points) L - Losses (worth zero points) OT - OT/Shootout losses (worth one point) PTS - Points P% - Points Percentage RW - Regulation Wins ROW - Regulation plus Overtime Wins GF - Goals For GA - Goals Against This legend is on the NHL standings page their are no ties in the NHL anymore here's the proposal then if you want to count 1 point as 0 points: they lose all 3, I'll exempt you from my campaign or say tocchet should be fired or hell, both. they DON'T lose all 3, permanent ip ban for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just now, CanuckMan said: Well that’s a dumb decision by the coaching staff then. Aman over Sutr to play center? Yeah does not make any sense. Not playing Kuzmenko and playing Karlson is a head scratcher too. I have not noticed Karlson in any game he’s played. Well, if they won tonight then it was a good move. I'm sure they will make adjustments for the next game. Road trip is not getting any easier. Hope they finally can beat the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: OT - OT/Shootout losses (worth one point) From the NHL standing page their is no tie column anymore. And ties used to get you 1 point. OTLs now get you that one point. You can call it whatever you want the outcome is the same: you get a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 29 minutes ago, Barnstorm said: He ain’t no L.E. He ain't no Sedin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, CanuckMan said: Unpopular opinion for sure because people always praise Petey’s 2 way defensive play and Selke Calibre play. But when I think Selke Trophy I think of guys like Kopitar/Bergeron. Guys that can actually win a faceoff to save their life. Or a puck battle and stay on thier feet. I think we have the answer as to why he hasn't been signed. PA and JR aren't fools and know what they have. A 7-8 million dollar player or a damn good trade asset. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Tocchet is the one responsible to put Lafferty with Petey. Obviously it doesn’t work. Not sure what Tocchet has to smoke to realize this. Hopefully Soucy is ready for the next game and we probably take out Juulsen… The roster was very oddly constructed today. There's a lot that didn't work. I don't really get why we made so many changes from the Ottawa game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 12 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Nah. Kuzy was playing in the KHL his whole career. "Score goals" was all they ever asked of him, but there are still aspects of the NHL game he needs to learn to stay in the line up. Tocchet et al. know what they are doing. "Tanking value" is not their concern... nor should it be. If they are icing guys like Karlsson and Aman it's because they've shown they can do the job at a more consistent basis than others, whether Kuzy or anyone else. 'Show you can do the job and you get rewarded.' The way it should be on any good team Excellent post! So well said and accurate ... and free of emotion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 25 minutes ago, CanuckFanForever said: you can't get lucky if you don't make chances in hockey They made lots of chances. They just missed high or wide or got blocked. Not to mention Binnington had a pretty strong game. It happens. I don’t have many complaints about that game though. They played a strong game just lacked finish. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sika21 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Vancan said: Plus what? Better be a big plus, or Conroy is hanging up on you. We don't really want Kuz at the moment so why would another team? Meh. That’s what everyone thought with Zadorov as well. If these guys don’t intend to re-sign in Calgary it diminishes their value. We have a good chance to make a run this year, and a better one with a player of his caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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