88Canuck Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 44 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Absolutely fucking not. The last thing this team needs is someone with chracter issues. I can’t say 100%, but it’s seems like he’s been a good person / teammate by all accounts. So, if we assume that that’s true and this was a one off (mistake) and it wasn’t criminal etc…how is that character issues?! If that’s the the case, then I guess, minus kids, all adults have character issues because no one is perfect and we all make mistakes at some point in our life, even good people! Being disappointed in someone’s behaviour etc is one thing, but some terms being thrown around on here are wrong and unfair, especially since no one knows exactly what he did!! Edited January 11 by 88Canuck 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WHL rocks Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Absolutely fucking not. The last thing this team needs is someone with chracter issues. There are no character issues. There's is not one human on earth who hasn't made mistakes and caused situations they are embarrassed about.. Correy Perry is and has been a glue guy on every team he's been on. His past team mates know his value on a team. He's a huge plus on any team. Tampa seems to be interested in bringing him back because they know what he brings to the locker room. We probably won't be on top if his list but if he was to sign here I'd be ecstatic. 2 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coho8888 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 If what he did involved a member of the opposite sex, then I doubt the Canucks would even give two sh*ts about him seeing that they have Cammi and Emelie in our mgmt. group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I’d rather sign Kessel. He can provide depth scoring, be just as cheap and he’s pretty much universally loved by teammates, so there’d be no issues there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: I’d rather sign Kessel. He can provide depth scoring, be just as cheap and he’s pretty much universally loved by teammates, so there’d be no issues there. Perry is also pretty much universally loved by his teammates, apparently. Sign them both for playoff depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-68 Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 (edited) For the record, I appreciate all the comments made in this thread, some with passion, others with a tongue in cheek, a few with ambivalence, none from the point of view of a non-Canuck fan. It is the latter I wish to focus on. We are all, at least I hope so, Canucks fans and want our team to succeed. Reading through this thread, being derailed a bit a times, shows me we have passionate fans. Setting aside what can and can't be said, what the mods will or will not moderate, this is a safe place to have a discussion, arguments even and if need be gun fights. But as @Sharpshooter mentioned, attack the post not the poster. Reminds me of Pierre Trudeau who said something similar to a young Justin then mocking Joe Clark thinking he would please his father. Many clubs would kill to have the passionate fan base we have, let's not wreck it. Love the passion, love this team and to everyone on this forum. On that note, GO Canucks GO. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/politics/jetaimepapa-justin-trudeaus-2000-eulogy/article26923529/ And said: Justin, [in translation] we never attack the individual. We can be in total disagreement with someone, without denigrating them as a consequence, and, saying that, he stood up, took me by the hand and brought me over to introduce me to this man. Edited January 11 by Rocket-68 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, GrammaInTheTub said: I can’t speak for others, but I will say that my trust is in the process followed by the NHL in the Perry situation in light of recent scandals. I do not have same level of trust in Bettman or the NHL to handle ALL issues the same. Just saying this was likely handled very delicately by all parties. As others have stated, Chicago may have overreacted to just avoid any and all future drama altogether. We may never know. Also, I don’t recall Perry ever saying he was suffering from alcoholism. He said he made a poor decision/mistake and is apologetic and would be working on himself - or words to that effect - but he did not say alcoholism. If it was alcoholism he’d be in the player assistance program - this would appear to be (in his mind at least and as his record would demonstrate) a one off bad decision. If Perry did state alcoholism somewhere, I’d like you to show me. If not, I strongly urge you to reconsider throwing accusations of that illness around. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacramalla/2023/12/04/could-the-nhlpa-rely-on-alcoholism-in-a-corey-perry-grievance/?sh=2c9aa4d01a6c After being terminated, Perry said he has struggled with alcohol and is seeking help. “I have started working with experts in the mental health and substance abuse fields to discuss my struggles with alcohol, and I will take whatever steps necessary to ensure this never happens again,” Perry said in the statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 19 hours ago, Tusk said: I guess that is my point. If we take him on a 2 way and there is any disruption we can just put him in Abby but if his problem was related to drinking, I am sure that is correctable. If we can add to the team without taking away someone, that is a huge benefit. We can keep kuzy? garlund, myers, Hogz? even Podz? like this is worth a trial. 19 hours ago, Tusk said: Maybe the Canucks organization and Team accountability that has been built is exactly what Perry needs to kick ass. And now impact our prospects who are young and impressionable? Ryan Johnson has worked hard with Colliton to make Abbotsford a great development team in the AHL with great veterans with Chase Wouters, John Stevens, and Christian Wolanin. They aren't going to exposekey prospects like Podkolzin, Woo, McWard, Hirose, Bains, McDonough, Klimovich and SIlovs to someone like that. There are tons of other winning pedigree veterans you can bring in, risking any semblence of peace in the organization just to try a 38 year old washed up project, is just asking for trouble. Why tempt fate right now? This organization is finally at a place of stability for once. To jeopardize all of that is not worth it. We aren't in the business to rehabilitate Corey Perry and hand out services to players. We are here to win, and we can do that acquiring other guys who are serious about conducting themselves professionally on and off the ice. This organization has worked hard to silence the drama that has been plaguing the team for years by bringing in a business-like approach. The phiilosophy JR, Allvin, and Tocchet have brought to this team that its about the team first...individual second. Lets stick to players who bring that same focus rather than bringing potential distractions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 hours ago, WHL rocks said: There are no character issues. There's is not one human on earth who hasn't made mistakes and caused situations they are embarrassed about.. Correy Perry is and has been a glue guy on every team he's been on. His past team mates know his value on a team. He's a huge plus on any team. Tampa seems to be interested in bringing him back because they know what he brings to the locker room. We probably won't be on top if his list but if he was to sign here I'd be ecstatic. Not knowing the details of what happened he’s been a productive piece on many cup runs and wins and was looking pretty good in Chicago before whatever this was. If management signed him I’d believe they did their due diligence and he would be a helpful piece. im with ya 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: And now impact our prospects who are young and impressionable? Ryan Johnson has worked hard with Colliton to make Abbotsford a great development team in the AHL with great veterans with Chase Wouters, John Stevens, and Christian Wolanin. They aren't going to exposekey prospects like Podkolzin, Woo, McWard, Hirose, Bains, McDonough, Klimovich and SIlovs to someone like that. There are tons of other winning pedigree veterans you can bring in, risking any semblence of peace in the organization just to try a 38 year old washed up project, is just asking for trouble. Why tempt fate right now? This organization is finally at a place of stability for once. To jeopardize all of that is not worth it. We aren't in the business to rehabilitate Corey Perry and hand out services to players. We are here to win, and we can do that acquiring other guys who are serious about conducting themselves professionally on and off the ice. This organization has worked hard to silence the drama that has been plaguing the team for years by bringing in a business-like approach. The phiilosophy JR, Allvin, and Tocchet have brought to this team that its about the team first...individual second. Lets stick to players who bring that same focus rather than bringing potential distractions. Hear! Hear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 14 hours ago, WHL rocks said: There are no character issues. There's is not one human on earth who hasn't made mistakes and caused situations they are embarrassed about.. Correy Perry is and has been a glue guy on every team he's been on. His past team mates know his value on a team. He's a huge plus on any team. Tampa seems to be interested in bringing him back because they know what he brings to the locker room. We probably won't be on top if his list but if he was to sign here I'd be ecstatic. I like your comment kick that cancel culture to the curb… everyone needs a second chance… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Hear! Hear! 11 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacramalla/2023/12/04/could-the-nhlpa-rely-on-alcoholism-in-a-corey-perry-grievance/?sh=2c9aa4d01a6c After being terminated, Perry said he has struggled with alcohol and is seeking help. “I have started working with experts in the mental health and substance abuse fields to discuss my struggles with alcohol, and I will take whatever steps necessary to ensure this never happens again,” Perry said in the statement. This is sad… dude needs help to exorcise those demons… I hope he gets the help he needs… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillisD Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 No. I'm into chicks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuin Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Package myers + 1st for to Calgary for tanev than sign perry and kessel to league min deals with whatever money we have left for doing that trade Then trade kuzzy for a 2nd line centre top 6 boeser- petey - Miller Perry- trade - kessel Got it all figured out 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, CaptainQuin said: Package myers + 1st for to Calgary for tanev than sign perry and kessel to league min deals with whatever money we have left for doing that trade Then trade kuzzy for a 2nd line centre top 6 boeser- petey - Miller Perry- trade - kessel Got it all figured out 1) Huge overpay for Tanev 2) That second line is a lot worse than our current one is unless we somehow get the 2016 versions of Perry and Kessel 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionized27 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Pass. The Canucks bottom six is currently doing quite fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, CaptainQuin said: Package myers + 1st for to Calgary for tanev than sign perry and kessel to league min deals with whatever money we have left for doing that trade Then trade kuzzy for a 2nd line centre top 6 boeser- petey - Miller Perry- trade - kessel Got it all figured out Tanev is great, but he’s not going to require a 1st and Myers. Calgary probably wouldn’t want Myers anyway. They’re looking to trade players away from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, WillisD said: No. I'm into chicks Context? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Context? I think he's just going through something..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillisD Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 41 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Context? Just a bad joke on the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, JayDangles said: I think he's just going through something..... Dude had to point out that he prefers chicks… some dude musta hit on him I guess… intense man… that’s going through something… Edited January 13 by I.AM.THE.WALRUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman955 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Distractions we don't want. Perry's issues are still his to deal with. This team, as it is, can still remain as a well oiled machine. Most of our trade requests here do not meet what Perry brings. The trickle down effect may very well disrupt chemistry. Issues do not heal overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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