qwijjibo Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Lewlowned said: And we would need to include a current roster player to make it work for us cap wise. If MTL retains 50% we could give em Friedman and we'd be just under the cap. Montreal only has 1 retention slot left for this season. So if Vancouver is asking for retention (thus eliminating the possibility of retaining on another contract for a better return) and needing to take back a player who would be a cap dump, I'd expect the starting ask is a 1st at a minimum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Montreal only has 1 retention slot left for this season. So if Vancouver is asking for retention (thus eliminating the possibility of retaining on another contract for a better return) and needing to take back a player who would be a cap dump, I'd expect the starting ask is a 1st at a minimum No club is paying a first for Moonohands. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, Jester13 said: As a last resort to bolster the lineup, sure, but I'd like to aim higher. This is a special season that I think we should go for it - not for an expensive rental, but for a long-term core piece like Ek is the bar I'd shoot for first. Just need to be persistent on Ek and keep communication open like they did when they willed Hronek to be available haha. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 29 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Montreal only has 1 retention slot left for this season. So if Vancouver is asking for retention (thus eliminating the possibility of retaining on another contract for a better return) and needing to take back a player who would be a cap dump, I'd expect the starting ask is a 1st at a minimum Monahan without retention probably goes for at least a 2nd if not more, 1st for retainment isn't unrealistic at all If he's truly over his injuries he could be a sleeper acquisition, he had 17 points in 25 games last season and has 24 in 41 thus far Place him on a more competitive team with skilled linemates and I don't see why he couldn't be a 50 point player The appeal to playoff bound teams is being able to fit in such a player at a slightly less than a 1M cap hit, teams have given up what have wound up being later 1st's for less Edited January 12 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 12 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Just need to be persistent on Ek and keep communication open like they did when they willed Hronek to be available haha. I guess never say never, if we are willing to pay the price anyone is available. We are almost guaranteed to have a fairly late round pick this year after #20. Even if we lose in the first round, it looks likely we will be pretty high in the standings and get the a poor pick even in the order of the other losers of the first round. History has shown late 1sts aren’t that much different than 2nd round picks in terms of making the NHL. Even early 3rd round picks aren’t much of a drop off in odds. When you say 1st round pick though it really seems to perk up GM ears a LOT more than how they would value a 40th pick. That is all to say if there is a year to actually put our first in play this might be it, especially if the return is a guy under club control with term remaining like Ek. I can’t see also not having to give up on one of our top Swedish prospects though and that would sting. Each of them profiles to literally fit in holes that will be opening on the roster in the coming years when expensive veteran contracts expire. Maybe Brzustewics (dang this guy need a nickname so I don’t have to spell it) is a flashy enough name along with a 1st round pick. That has to get a long phone call you would think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Provost said: I guess never say never, if we are willing to pay the price anyone is available. We are almost guaranteed to have a fairly late round pick this year after #20. Even if we lose in the first round, it looks likely we will be pretty high in the standings and get the a poor pick even in the order of the other losers of the first round. History has shown late 1sts aren’t that much different than 2nd round picks in terms of making the NHL. Even early 3rd round picks aren’t much of a drop off in odds. When you say 1st round pick though it really seems to perk up GM ears a LOT more than how they would value a 40th pick. That is all to say if there is a year to actually put our first in play this might be it, especially if the return is a guy under club control with term remaining like Ek. I can’t see also not having to give up on one of our top Swedish prospects though and that would sting. Each of them profiles to literally fit in holes that will be opening on the roster in the coming years when expensive veteran contracts expire. Maybe Brzustewics (dang this guy need a nickname so I don’t have to spell it) is a flashy enough name along with a 1st round pick. That has to get a long phone call you would think. Then we could use the pick and draft Lucas Pettersson haha. Never enough Petterssons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 12 minutes ago, Provost said: I guess never say never, if we are willing to pay the price anyone is available. We are almost guaranteed to have a fairly late round pick this year after #20. Even if we lose in the first round, it looks likely we will be pretty high in the standings and get the a poor pick even in the order of the other losers of the first round. History has shown late 1sts aren’t that much different than 2nd round picks in terms of making the NHL. Even early 3rd round picks aren’t much of a drop off in odds. When you say 1st round pick though it really seems to perk up GM ears a LOT more than how they would value a 40th pick. That is all to say if there is a year to actually put our first in play this might be it, especially if the return is a guy under club control with term remaining like Ek. I can’t see also not having to give up on one of our top Swedish prospects though and that would sting. Each of them profiles to literally fit in holes that will be opening on the roster in the coming years when expensive veteran contracts expire. Maybe Brzustewics (dang this guy need a nickname so I don’t have to spell it) is a flashy enough name along with a 1st round pick. That has to get a long phone call you would think. For Brzustewics, I say we call him Subaru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Provost Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 I have found our new 2C 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footsteps Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Provost said: I have found our new 2C Clone him and give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Then we could use the pick and draft Lucas Pettersson haha. Never enough Petterssons. Let's go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, footsteps said: Clone him and give it a try. We could kidnap Jack Hughes, exorcise the devil within him and change his identity. Canucks sign rookie FA Jak Hues. They'd never know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Provost said: I have found our new 2C His story checks out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 There was a time I was considering him the best player of his draft class. Oh how wrong I was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, Provost said: I have found our new 2C It's got to be Benning's diary he left behind before getting fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2024 at 6:55 PM, qwijjibo said: He had the same surgery as Demko and he's finally healthy. Hes 7th in the league for faceoff percentage. He also has a really affordable cap hit ($1.985m) There's likely to be a fair but if interest in him always apprecciate you and the other fella who follows the MTL canadaiens, i use to follow them a bit and watch there games a ton, but just havent since price and the old cast moved out, kinda same with WPG, anyways rambling. at that cap hit i wouldnt mind gambling that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Canucks are not really in a position to make any moves until they move kuzmenko or garland or maybe Myers if they want to touch the defence. Most teams making these rentals available I doubt would be looking to take back cap dumps with terms. Even if Vancouver doesn’t view kuz or garland as a cap dump. I don’t see them as a fit on a rebuilding team with terms and a pretty steep salary. So let see how they free up the cap first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2024 at 1:06 AM, Elias Pettersson said: Dawson Mercer. Can play centre or wing so he’d be perfect for us. If New Jersey misses the playoffs he could be available. Way, way too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 hours ago, Coconuts said: Monahan without retention probably goes for at least a 2nd if not more, 1st for retainment isn't unrealistic at all If he's truly over his injuries he could be a sleeper acquisition, he had 17 points in 25 games last season and has 24 in 41 thus far Place him on a more competitive team with skilled linemates and I don't see why he couldn't be a 50 point player The appeal to playoff bound teams is being able to fit in such a player at a slightly less than a 1M cap hit, teams have given up what have wound up being later 1st's for less Too high risk for us. If Allvin is really going to move that pick it can't be for this guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 38 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Too high risk for us. If Allvin is really going to move that pick it can't be for this guy. Yeah. That would be an absolute bonehead move. It's totally unrealistic. You don't move that pick unless it has the potential to be a Miller or Hronek type player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Bob Long said: Too high risk for us. If Allvin is really going to move that pick it can't be for this guy. We'll see, not every trade involving a 1dt is going to be a home run, we've just been spoiled in recent years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: We'll see, not every trade involving a 1dt is going to be a home run, we've just been spoiled in recent years it kind of does for us though, the OEL buyout makes it a necessity to either use the pick for a solid player or make sure we get an RFA in a trade, imo. Edited January 13 by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: it kind of does for us though, the OEL buyout makes it a necessity to either use the pick for a solid player or make sure we get an RFA in a trade, imo. Well, we'll see what happens I'm just not expecting 1sts to turn into Miller's and Hronek's regularly, I don't think that kind of expectation is realistic Management has done well for the most part, but I'm not gonna pretend they're some sort of miracle workers Edited January 13 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Well, we'll see what happens I'm just not expecting 1sts to turn into Miller's and Hronek's regularly, I don't think that kind of expectation is realistic Management has done well for the most part, but I'm not gonna pretend they're some sort of miracle workers its a pickle. The pick, hopefully, is in the 24-32 range, preferably the latter. So not really a pick that gets most GMs drooling. But a great pick if you are looking at a 4-5 year replacement plan for a current roster guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 6 hours ago, iinatcc said: There was a time I was considering him the best player of his draft class. Oh how wrong I was You rated him ahead of Nate MacKinnon and Sasha Barkov? When? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 25 minutes ago, Bob Long said: its a pickle. The pick, hopefully, is in the 24-32 range, preferably the latter. So not really a pick that gets most GMs drooling. But a great pick if you are looking at a 4-5 year replacement plan for a current roster guy. Agreed, the caveat is what we wound up trading for Miller and Hronek We were a worse team when we traded for Miller and we traded an Isles 1st that could have been an unprotected 1st if the Isles had slid instead of making the playoffs That was the appeal of the pick for the Wings, it was either going to be middling or bump to next season This season it'll be 16OA at best, the guys available for this year's first alone may be of different caliber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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