Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Or trade for guys like Hronek. Top 10 D man in the league and we got him at 25, so just entering his prime years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I'm here to stir the pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, HKSR said: EDM and TOR are probably knocking down the door to get to Marky. Neither team has a lot to offer, but I think TOR might have the edge in terms of tradeable assets. Why? How many goals does Marky have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 53 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Hronek is on pace for more than 70 points and a plus 50. That’s a super good player. Steal by Allvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Hronek is on pace for more than 70 points and a plus 50. That’s a super good player. Steal by Allvin. Yes, the trade has worked out, but your whataboutism is tired and old when the topic at hand was the importance of drafting and development. Let's not pretend poaching an RFA top 4D is a commonplace occurrence that regularly happens. Credit to management, but if it were easy every team would do it. Edited January 12 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Yes, the trade has worked out, but your whataboutism is tired and old when the topic at hand was the importance of drafting and development. The topic is actually “Markstrom on the Move”. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Alflives said: The topic is actually “Markstrom on the Move”. Sure, but that's not the conversation I was having, the one you butted into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: I'm here to stir the pot Not an ideal move, but maybe a pretty good one for Cowtown, maybe it gives huberbust a better partner. Better deal for Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Oh man, those were tough years. Vancouver was truly known as a goalie graveyard. Now we're a goalie factory, and I really have high hopes that with Foote and Gonchar, we are now gonna be a defenceman factory too. Just imagine how strong the Canucks will be if we constantly produce high quality goalies and defencemen. Just poach someone from Nashville. Out of Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, and Seth Jones, how the hell did Roman Josi become the best of the bunch? I think as an 18-year old defenceman your dream is to get drafted by the Predators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Honkin Hronek said: Don't forget Carolina and New Jersey, both teams could use a major G upgrade. Ya, my bet was Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Not an ideal move, but maybe a pretty good one for Cowtown, maybe it gives huberbust a better partner. Better deal for Carolina. Let's speculate for funsies To Calgary 2024 1st Raanta (1.5M) Martinook (1.8M) DeAngelo (1.65M) 4.95M in total, all pending UFA's To Carolina Markstrom (6M) 2026 3rd (Vancouver's) Carolina has 1.8M in cap space and can eat the cap difference, I don't see Calgary wanting to retain on Markstrom the next two seasons, but maybe they opt to retain 1-2M or so in order for Carolina to try and retain Martinook if Carolina adds Calgary takes the 1st and tries to flip the players they get Edited January 12 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Let's speculate for funsies To Calgary 2024 1st Raanta (1.5M) Martinook (1.8M) DeAngelo (1.65M) 4.95M in total, all pending UFA's To Carolina Markstrom (6M) 2026 3rd (Vancouver's) Carolina has 1.8M in cap space and can eat the cap difference, I don't see Calgary wanting to retain on Markstrom the next two seasons Calgary takes the 1st and tries to flip the players they get I think Cowville will be shopping for a C that can wake up Louisx2 as Alf put it. Necas for Marky 1:1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 My guess is Carolina. Marky could really rebound there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Bob Long said: I think Cowville will be shopping for a C that can wake up Louisx2 as Alf put it. Necas for Marky 1:1? I have a hard time seeing Necas being available if Carolina still fancies themselves a contender I'm not sure that kind of center is available for Calgary, they'd probably be better selling and hoping for Celebrini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 42 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Just poach someone from Nashville. Out of Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, and Seth Jones, how the hell did Roman Josi become the best of the bunch? I think as an 18-year old defenceman your dream is to get drafted by the Predators. Because he stayed in Nashville lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewlowned Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 34 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I think Cowville will be shopping for a C that can wake up Louisx2 as Alf put it. Necas for Marky 1:1? If Necas is available, we should do whatever we can to secure him as our 2C. That guy is a wicked player and would be fantastic, especially for a measly $3M. If you package Kuzmenko into it, we'd have to retain 50% on Kuz. Not great on the draws, though. He averages fewer than 150 FOs a year, with a historic 41.9% win rate. Though the year he took lots of FOs (418) was near his best year for draws, though still only 45.2%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Whoever ends up with Markstrom will be disappointed. He almost always breaks down toward the end of the season from overwork. He's also really bad handling the puck outside of his crease. Last year his statistics were the poorest of his NHL career and this year's haven't been appreciably better. His best is behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, Rusty Shackleford said: I'd love to see Marky go out east to a contender. Always liked him. Carolina with marky could be very dangerous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Lewlowned said: If Necas is available, we should do whatever we can to secure him as our 2C. That guy is a wicked player and would be fantastic, especially for a measly $3M. If you package Kuzmenko into it, we'd have to retain 50% on Kuz. Not great on the draws, though. He averages fewer than 150 FOs a year, with a historic 41.9% win rate. Though the year he took lots of FOs (418) was near his best year for draws, though still only 45.2%. The Canucks don't have pieces they'd be willing to part with that would fetch Necas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 hours ago, HKSR said: EDM and TOR are probably knocking down the door to get to Marky. Neither team has a lot to offer, but I think TOR might have the edge in terms of tradeable assets. 8 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Plus a guy who signed him to his current contract. Back before the Zadorov trade I read somewhere that CGY ownership didn't really want to help TML and their new GM. They weren't interested in sending Zadorov to TML all things being equal. CGY also might not want to send Marjy only 300 km up Hwy 2 to EDM. But if it's a choice between the two I think Edmonton would be the landing spot for Markstrom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, WHL rocks said: Back before the Zadorov trade I read somewhere that CGY ownership didn't really want to help TML and their new GM. They weren't interested in sending Zadorov to TML all things being equal. CGY also might not want to send Marjy only 300 km up Hwy 2 to EDM. But if it's a choice between the two I think Edmonton would be the landing spot for Markstrom. Or Marky ends up in Jersey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Or Marky ends up in Jersey? Hopefully not. I'd rather him make it to a Canadian team. Time for a Canadian team to win a cup so the more stronger teams we have going into playoffs the better our chances. I remember when the Habs won in 93. Never thought it would be 3 decades with no cup back then. I was a young man back then now I'm almost 50. Need the Cup in the great white north before I get so old that I might not see it happen in my lifetime. Edited January 13 by WHL rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, HKSR said: Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact we have not had to worry about that position for nearly 2 decades. Big kudos and respect for Ian Clark. Thank goodness we kept him. Here's a reminder of what things looked like in 2005-06 (pre-Luongo, Marky, and Demko): Alex Auld - 67 GP Dan Cloutier - 13 GP Mika Noronen - 4 GP Maxime Ouellet - 4 GP Rob Mcvicar - 1 GP Forgot to add Cory Schnieder in there but ya...it was dim. Though clouts had some good stretches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadnbutta Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, HKSR said: Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact we have not had to worry about that position for nearly 2 decades. Big kudos and respect for Ian Clark. Thank goodness we kept him. Here's a reminder of what things looked like in 2005-06 (pre-Luongo, Marky, and Demko): Alex Auld - 67 GP Dan Cloutier - 13 GP Mika Noronen - 4 GP Maxime Ouellet - 4 GP Rob Mcvicar - 1 GP Can't forget about Ryan Miller. Goaltending hasn't been a problem for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 52 minutes ago, Breadnbutta said: Can't forget about Ryan Miller. Goaltending hasn't been a problem for a long time. Miller was a great Canuck, a bright spot during a dismal era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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