WHL rocks Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, AatuD2 said: Brucey is the ultimate player's coach, which only works with a very veteran-heavy team that disciplines itself. You can only ride the "good vibes" for so long. Couldn't be happier with what Tocchet seems like so far. We've had nice coaches for way too long and we need a hardass who won't be stepping over the line like Babcock has throughout his career. Tocchet was one of my favorite players in the NHL back in the 80's when he was with the Philadelphia Flyers and then winning a Cup with the Penguins. Really happy to have him as our coach. We needed a guy who has done it all and played hard. Instant respect from the players. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Tocchet was one of my favorite players in the NHL back in the 80's when he was with the Philadelphia Flyers and then winning a Cup with the Penguins. Really happy to have him as our coach. We needed a guy who has done it all and played hard. Instant respect from the players. Bang on W! He was a heck of a competitor. The type of guy where when your the opposition and he hops over the boards, your like "frig". He will accept no less than full compete from everyone. Come to think of it, all our coaches were competitors and cup winners to boot. Excited to see what they can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Win2024 said: Babcock is a good coach. Sadly most modern men put their own feelings above the team. Personally I can see exactly what Babcock was trying to do- hold a millionaire captain accountable and be a leader. I admire this. Huh? What does your personal cell phone info have to do with your hockey accountability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Personally, I like the old-school tougher coaches (Tocchet included!) but people are understandably very protective of their phones. Kind of obvious etiquette not to flip through someone’s pics. Not sure the guy needed to be fired over it since I don’t know how malicious or awkward it was but I can see why it would go there. Kekaleinen sure likes his wingnuts… and what’s the odds the jackets pull off a good year after all this? Could go either way but not a great start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sargon Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 hours ago, AatuD2 said: On the flip side, 20 players had no issues with it, but 2 did. . It's what happens everywhere now, we pander to the most sensitive part of any group. You could have a class of 200 students in a lecture and all it takes is one student to misinterpret something and get offended, and you get professors in hot water. Your reply has merit,for a lot of situations. I know of a friend at work who made a non offensive joke to someone who took issue with it and got him in trouble. I think for him it’s don’t joke with someone in that particular manner unless you know that person has a sense of humour.(it was religious in nature but not offensive to me but obviously to this guy).past behaviour dictates future behaviour a lot of times.maybe it’s not about hurt feelings but crossed boundaries?Torts probably hurt a lot of feelings but didn’t have a history of veteran players calling him a horrible human.no corporation wants to pay anybody 8 million to go fishing for two years over hurt feelings.maybe management is the one who thought they don’t want their up and coming team to be managed in that matter and maybe the players just shared that they didn’t like it but felt like they didn’t have any recourse and moved on?hopefully more comes out!a person can be nice to some and horrible to others,nothing is really black and white but a lot of gray in between.so let’s see how this pans out.cheers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, AatuD2 said: On the flip side, 20 players had no issues with it, but 2 did. . No one knows for sure who all had an issue with CellGate. The thing is Babcock did this from a position of power so of course some players are gonna support him. He controls their ice, future earnings etc. It's exactly an example of why someone in power cannot abuse the privilege. I don't really like the Snowflake society, I don't. But I dislike bullies even more. Babcock is an arrogant bully who has lost his privilege to coach in the NHL and good riddance. Edited September 18, 2023 by Rekker 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Win2024 said: Babcock is a good coach. Sadly most modern men put their own feelings above the team. Personally I can see exactly what Babcock was trying to do- hold a millionaire captain accountable and be a leader. I admire this. So you think it's fine for your boss to ask to see your private phone texts and pictures? Because that's exactly what was asked. You'd better be willing to show your private life to your boss; otherwise, you'd be nothing more than a hypocrite with the statement you've made. Edited September 18, 2023 by The Lock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Lock said: So you think it's fine for your boss to ask to see your private phone texts and pictures? Because that's exactly what was asked. You'd better be willing to show your private life to your boss; otherwise, you'd be nothing more than a hypocrite with the statement you've made. No kidding. I'm a happily married, mature, family man and I have stuff on my phone I don't want others seeing. I can only imagine if I was a young, rich NHLer. Yikes. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 20 hours ago, Down By the River said: I think Biz gave Jenner's name as a hypothetical example... which I agree with you was an irresponsible thing to do. However, it definitely was not the case that Biz was saying that he got his information from Jenner because he was actually actively going out of his way to not reveal who it was that told him about this information. I think the Hughes IV story was started by Sekers but not too sure about that one. Yes, I think I agree with your post here. It really could be hypothetical as you said. Sekeres was the one, like you said, who dropped the name of Hughes. What a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Lock said: Edit. Edited September 18, 2023 by Rekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Win2024 said: Babcock is a good coach. More like overrated. One cup on all those Detroit teams stacked with Hall of Famers. Zero Jack Adams for Babcock. Babcock accomplished nothing in Toronto. There are many, many better coaches. Edited September 18, 2023 by Rekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rekker said: Overrated coach. A better coach would of won a cup in Anaheim. Oh, wait, a better coach did the next season. One cup on all those Detroit teams stacked with Hall of Famers. Zero Jack Adams for Babcock. Babcock accomplished nothing in Toronto. There are many, many better coaches. it was actually 2 seasons and 3 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, tas said: it was actually 2 seasons and 3 years later. Just checked, you are correct. Meh, still an overrated coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I wonder if he asked Davidson if he could look at his phone during the interview process? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 You want to see what's in my phone? Dude, once you see it, ya can't unseen it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win2024 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Win2024 said: Babcock is a good coach. Sadly most modern men put their own feelings above the team. Personally I can see exactly what Babcock was trying to do- hold a millionaire captain accountable and be a leader. I admire this. This is wrong after thinking about it. I have no idea what I'm talking about. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 There is absolutely no reason for Babcock to ask for private phones. If you wanna get to know your players through their pics, have them send in a bunch. I've shared plenty with my work team, and it can be a great way to learn about a person. But there's no effing way my boss is gonna have my blessing get to look all the media on my phone, and I doubt there's anything on here I'm terribly embarrassed about (pics at least... stay away from my browser! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Around @9:00 mark, Elliot said he talked to an owner on his opinion on this. It sounded like it was Aquilini. Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Mike's face, (and demeanor) has seen enough NHL time and enough speculation on what he did or didn't do. See yah in the funny papers; That's where you should be. just my opinion..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulcap Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Biz and the guys talk about it at length today. It was repeated behavior from Babs and not "cancel culture". start at 17 min mark So glad they fired him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rekker Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: What a power tripping, arrogant, goof. His reputation, what was left of it, forever tarnished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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