Time Lord Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, SV. said: Voting Qwags is just because of process of elimination or safest bet at this point. I had him and Snake Doctor as about the same at the beginning of the round, but after Snake Doctor's post, as well as looking at some other things that Snake Doctor has said in the game, it's becoming clear he's the best option. His tunnel of Sharpshooter was no different to a few games ago where he kept living off his "town role" claim. I agree with this I think SD is the way to go this round. I think the mafia are within the group of SD, Qwags, and falcon. I may be prematurely putting SS in the town category, but I think if either of SD/Qwags flips scum it looks really good on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Vote SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Alright I decided to look back at KZA’s posts and interactions in round 1 On 1/19/2024 at 10:06 AM, SnakeDoctor said: Alright let’s do this. 11101011011000101 KZA reacted with “vintage” to this post On 1/19/2024 at 10:08 AM, KZA said: The (Snake) Doctor is in On 1/19/2024 at 6:20 PM, KZA said: Have SD and SS ever been mafia together? I was told last game that SD always votes SS for some reason On 1/19/2024 at 6:22 PM, SV. said: They might have been teammates in a CDC game together. Thoughts on Naslund? On 1/19/2024 at 6:26 PM, KZA said: I was wondering if we could observe any difference in how SD approaches Sharpy in an instance where they're both mafia He seems paranoid which is a good look On 1/19/2024 at 6:27 PM, KZA said: **Naslund seems paranoid lol On 1/19/2024 at 6:28 PM, SV. said: Another post of mine and another question ignored On 1/19/2024 at 6:28 PM, SV. said: Ok, uh, nvm then. Good thing you clarified because it did sound like you were saying that Snake Doctor was paranoid. On 1/19/2024 at 6:30 PM, KZA said: Snake Doctor is about a 2/10 in paranoia Thoughts on this series of posts: He talks a lot about SD. I’m not sure if it looks good or bad on him He converses with SV, but it’s all pretty safe… could be contrived On 1/19/2024 at 6:35 PM, KZA said: I hope DarthMelvin blesses our trap soon DM is TP On 1/19/2024 at 6:47 PM, KZA said: Wheres lewt Wanna see this man in action Once again he hopes to see someone enter. Would he do it for 2 TP in a row? Maybe. I strongly town read Lewt for reasons anyway On 1/19/2024 at 7:12 PM, KZA said: Do you believe there's a dirty bird, despite the bird shortage Asking questions again, this one is about falcon. Does he ask for people’s opinions on SD and falcon this early on if they’re both his teammates? Probably not I’m guessing. Could totally be one of them though On 1/19/2024 at 7:21 PM, falcon45ca said: Now I need to decide if not reading Ilungas post re: BJ not being included this game because of the mixup is AI... Hmmmmm Falcon seems to misunderstand KZA’s post here (I think). Looks fairly genuine? But doesn’t commit to a read or anything On 1/19/2024 at 8:00 PM, KZA said: Can you clarify KZA’s response On 1/19/2024 at 8:31 PM, SnakeDoctor said: Just trust me on this one. I am town. Vote off Sharpshooter. I guarantee he is mafia. If I’m wrong. Feel free to kill me next round. KZA reacts to this with “vintage” as well My thoughts: SS isn’t mafia Not sure if KZA would align himself with SD like this if they’re teammates, knowing SD will inevitably look scummy as he always does or I’m reading into it too much On 1/19/2024 at 8:39 PM, SV. said: I like what Snake Doctor's saying. On 1/19/2024 at 8:51 PM, KZA said: which part? On 1/19/2024 at 9:45 PM, SV. said: Voting out Sharpshooter. On 1/19/2024 at 9:57 PM, KZA said: do you agree/overlap with how he got there? On 1/19/2024 at 10:01 PM, SV. said: Not really. Snake Doctor came in and said that Sharpshooter is mafia just because For me, it was Sharpshooter's opening posts that pointed me in the scum direction. More conversation with SV and it’s pretty safe again, could still easily be w/w On 1/19/2024 at 8:52 PM, KZA said: I successfully wolfread Qwags once because Jazz bussed him think every other time I read Qwags was pure RNG Not sure if this means anything I just quoted everything On 1/20/2024 at 10:28 AM, KZA said: I admit...I don't actually know who SS is talking about there Same here On 1/20/2024 at 3:20 PM, KZA said: vote TL pretty busy tonight His last post! On 1/20/2024 at 5:05 PM, falcon45ca said: I'm asking if not reading the thread is towny or scummy Falcon finally responds to KZA. They never resolved the confusion On 1/20/2024 at 5:30 PM, falcon45ca said: Talk about TL, what's your read? He’s talking to KZA again here On 1/20/2024 at 8:23 PM, falcon45ca said: Maybe? Convince me He’s willing to be convinced to vote for KZA Ok here’s what I ended up with: The mafia team could still be SD and Qwags. But if it’s not, surely KZA would’ve conversed with one of his teammates. This points to SV or falcon. He asked for opinions on falcon and SD early on which seems unintuitive to do if they’re both his teammates. But SV and SD are unlikely to be teammates because why would they be setting up a thunderdome between the two right now. So maybe it’s Qwags and falcon, or Qwags and SV. All 3 likely teams that I listed have Qwags on them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 In terms of pure scumminess I’d go SD, Qwags, SV, falcon, SS, Lewt in that order. But it’s never that simple… gotta think about teammate interactions and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Hmm what if it’s SV and falcon… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I don't like this metagaming thats been going on. Why is SV basing his reasoning on what I did a few games ago? 8 hours ago, SV. said: Voting Qwags is just because of process of elimination or safest bet at this point. His tunnel of Sharpshooter was no different to a few games ago where he kept living off his "town role" claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV. Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, Qwags said: I don't like this metagaming thats been going on. Why is SV basing his reasoning on what I did a few games ago? Well, here's the actual quote: Voting Qwags is just because of process of elimination or safest bet at this point. I had him and Snake Doctor as about the same at the beginning of the round, but after Snake Doctor's post, as well as looking at some other things that Snake Doctor has said in the game, it's becoming clear he's the best option. His tunnel of Sharpshooter was no different to a few games ago where he kept living off his "town role" claim. "His tunnel" = Snake Doctor, not you. And that's also why I am currently voting for Snake Doctor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV. Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Time Lord's done a great job to look into KZA's posts. It's tough to gauge if there's any mafia-mafia interactions from that, but one thing I will say is that KZA basically made "contact" with everybody, but didn't make any meaningful or substantive contact. At best, his vote on Time Lord likely means that Time Lord is town. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Qwags said: I don't like this metagaming thats been going on. Why is SV basing his reasoning on what I did a few games ago? Do you have some opinions to share that aren’t based on misquoted posts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 Vote count SV - 2 votes - SD - Falcon SD - 2 vote - SV - TL No votes Sharpshooter Qwags Lewitelli Nightfall under an hour away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 hours ago, SnakeDoctor said: If I get taken out this round. It will be obvious you are mafia when I show up as town. Honestly it would be kinda weird for a mafia to tunnel a town this much right off the gate.. what’s the gain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 hours ago, Time Lord said: Yeah, as I thought But do we believe this? If this is the case, wouldn’t you comment on the investigation at some point? I think most people in your situation, where they vote for someone on their own and then they keep reading and see that their target was red checked, would say something about it. It looks a lot like you were just trying to make it look like you scumread KZA without seeing the investigation so that we give you town cred Either you’re scum and leading us up the garden path here or you’re looking too deep into this imo. That’s a fair bit of hypothetical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, SV. said: At best, his vote on Time Lord likely means that Time Lord is town. Does it? I l remember that vote was really sketch and a throwaway. I’d suggest there’s a much likelier chance that the vote was placed knowing TL wasn’t getting lynched but could be looked back on retrospectively and given town cred in the event TL flipped scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Time Lord said: Do you have some opinions to share that aren’t based on misquoted posts It’s Qwags, the answer is a resounding no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Perhaps I’m tunneling, but I have a sneaky suspicion TL is scum, I raised concerns about him at the end of the last round but they didn’t really get any traction or attention.. what do you guys think? in the meantime vote TL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 31 minutes ago, Ilunga said: Vote count SV - 2 votes - SD - Falcon SD - 2 vote - SV - TL So basically SD and SV’s cross votes count each other out so really we have Falc voting SV and TL voting SD fwiw in 20 mins time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 13 hours ago, falcon45ca said: That's correct. I didn't see the claim post by 112 til after I'd voted Also fwiw I feel this is genuine and would’ve been easy to cover up. No need to fake this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 8:22 PM, Time Lord said: I will once again advise against lynching SS Important to note for the next round if we get further info. fwiw this is TL defending the lead lynch target 40 mins before NF. If TL flips scum I think this looks good for SS actually as it could be a town cred builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2024 at 1:58 AM, Time Lord said: He was probably the universally most townread player. Maybe not a “typical” kill choice but I think it shows the mafia are paying attention I’m 1000% tunneling rn but TMI on the NIK kill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 (edited) Vote count SV - 2 votes - SD - Falcon SD - 2 votes - SV - TL TL - 1 vote - Lewt No votes Sharpshooter Qwags 15 minutes to night fall Edited January 25 by Ilunga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 8:44 PM, Time Lord said: I think I do too after thinking about it Unvote, vote DM Also potential good info for next round, this was an unvote on Qwags to Town DM with 15 to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 9:38 PM, Ilunga said: DarthMelvin 3votes - Falcon- TL - SV - SS - 2 votes SD - Qwags SD - 1 vote - SS Falcon - 1 vote DM Qwags - 1 vote - Lewitelli Hopefully I’m alive to try to figure this myself but if I do die tonight, please use this to connect the dots along with tonight’s NF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Side note, has it been a nightmare for anyone else to differentiate between SV SS and SD lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Lewitelli said: Side note, has it been a nightmare for anyone else to differentiate between SV SS and SD lmao Sorry Brother. From now on I will use Sharpshooters and Snake Doctors full usernames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewitelli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Ilunga said: Sorry Brother. From now on I will use Sharpshooters and Snake Doctors full usernames. No no, you’re all good mate, everyone’s been doing it myself included 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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