SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Europe has had enough of political gamesmanship within NATO and the EU in regards to helping UKR directly. The ones that want to help are stepping up and past the rhetoric: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Makes you wonder if everyone is trying to get their hands on that 300 billion the banks are holdin in RuZ assests ?? it is supposed to be going to the rebuild of UKraine directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 UKR is monitoring its own well : A person involved in a high-profile corruption case involving the supply of low-quality clothing to the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been detained. He tried to evade the investigation and flee Ukraine. Roman Hrynkevich, son of Lviv businessman Ihor Hrynkevich, was detained in Odesa. According to law enforcers, he was planning to flee the country and hide in the EU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It’s been investigated now, and seems this strike was RuZ on RuZ .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Ever wonder what your kids are playing ?!? Crazy World these days : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Adding to the circumvention of Orbans veto. Some countries were already starting to do this , the E U is trying to control it and make themselves look better politically.… but is that control needed I wonder ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 More info on the RuZ on RuZ attack,. .. seems unsurprising that it WAS TARGETED. Putin trying to play the victim game with his own citizens. How truly and purely narcissistic,. In the most evil of ways . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Bolden and Brazen , right in Putins face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Polish Prime Minister Tusk spoke sharply about the demonstration of a policy of neutrality by some leaders of European Union member states against the backdrop of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. "Today, anyone in the free world who pretends to be neutral, maintains an even distance or demonstrates it towards Ukraine and Russia deserves the darkest place in political hell,” Tusk emphasized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The World today …. Sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 hours ago, SilentSam said: 17 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Bolden and Brazen , right in Putins face. Wonder how many pilots, of various militaries are of Ukrainian descent? I'd suggest a few of Canada's pilots are, and now that their path to Ukrainian citizen ship is clear-there may be a few that go to Ukraine. Might be time for Canada- and a few other countries to sell off some 'surplus' planes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gurn said: Wonder how many pilots, of various militaries are of Ukrainian descent? I'd suggest a few of Canada's pilots are, and now that their path to Ukrainian citizen ship is clear-there may be a few that go to Ukraine. Might be time for Canada- and a few other countries to sell off some 'surplus' planes. Excellent point Gurn .. The new circumvention deals might/ should expedite a lot of transfers of Warbirds and Artillery, whereas before some needed signing off by a third or 4th party .. as you say , globally , there may be many trained personnel from ofher countries that have UKR decent.. who will come forward. in the case of Air Force personnel, if that pilot wishes to exercise that right,. and if we are in a surplus situation of the equipment that pilot operates,. Perhaps let him / her arrive in UKR in it themselves. Consider it a gift . Edited January 22 by SilentSam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: Ever wonder what your kids are playing ?!? Crazy World these days : It is harder to accomplish taking out the pilots. Triangulation control signals means at least two el3ctronic warfare devices must find a vector and where those two vectors intersect is a general area where the pilots transmitter is located. A third vector helps narrow that down a lot, but in tight battlefield kind of areas, where we aren't using Australia, UK and Canada as the three signal interceptors..you need basically three wagons out on the front lines doing that work, and the transmitting pilots could be up to 100 yards from the rough localized intercept point. Then you have to get there in time. Good news is for instance, in Iraq, when Saddam's EW teams would energize their systems, their life expectancy was 4.5 minutes, ad the American and allied forces got this EW dance down to a science. It was so deadly that Saddams commanders would handcuff their operators to the equipment, as even they knew they had less than 5 minutes after energizing before a missile was incoming. I believe we are training Ukrainians to be nearly as efficient, but I don't know that they have the right equipment in enough numbers. At one time my crew could erect our antennae systems and energize inside of 3 minutes of arrival into a hide. We got our teardown and move to 2 mins 15 seconds. That may be a life and equipment saving span of time for a hasty withdrawal. Just some insight into the electronic warfare side. Hopefully there have been even greater advances in detection and reaction time since I retired. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: Bolden and Brazen , right in Putins face. Plus it's in line with EU norms. The amount of reform that's gone on since the war started is amazing under the circumstances. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 ...and I should mention the taliban/AQ got wise to intercepts of their command and control transmissions when their guys on the horn would blow up if they talked too long... eventually they jerry-rigged two radios back to back with an ad hoc battery to give the contraption a few weeks of life...and drop it on a rocky snow covered mountainside. Then their guys on a radio were broadcasting low power to the Jerry rigged relay of much higher power and the kaboom would hit the hillside and just take out the re-transmitter.. Point is Russia will change tactics if Ukraine is effective at hitting drone pilots and begin to use relays...sonit could be a short lived success best saved for high profile operators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Plus it's in line with EU norms. The amount of reform that's gone on since the war started is amazing under the circumstances. At least, no matter the outcome of this war in terms of territory, whatever it ends up being, there does appear to be some positives. Ukraine has effectively been pushed towards the west and really worked on becoming key western ally: the opposite of what Russia wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshiyoshi Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 52 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said: ...and I should mention the taliban/AQ got wise to intercepts of their command and control transmissions when their guys on the horn would blow up if they talked too long... eventually they jerry-rigged two radios back to back with an ad hoc battery to give the contraption a few weeks of life...and drop it on a rocky snow covered mountainside. Then their guys on a radio were broadcasting low power to the Jerry rigged relay of much higher power and the kaboom would hit the hillside and just take out the re-transmitter.. Point is Russia will change tactics if Ukraine is effective at hitting drone pilots and begin to use relays...sonit could be a short lived success best saved for high profile operators. Doing something like this for drone control will add latency, which could make it easier to intercept the drones though, could also cause issues with controlling them. So maybe they can do it, but maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Yoshiyoshi said: Doing something like this for drone control will add latency, which could make it easier to intercept the drones though, could also cause issues with controlling them. So maybe they can do it, but maybe not. it is also expensive and time consuming to set up, in the context of 100 new drones a day, et cetera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, SilentSam said: Makes you wonder if everyone is trying to get their hands on that 300 billion the banks are holdin in RuZ assests ?? it is supposed to be going to the rebuild of UKraine directly. I believe there is a legal battle going on as the Russians try and repossess these assets. Many of these assets are financial as Russia placed money into international banks and institutions. Is there a prescribed usage for these funds? ( $300 billion +/- ). I don't think so. I assume the countries where the funds are held continue to hold them. No single depository of all the funds. Who will hold them if unencumbered? What process has to take place to turn such assets over to Ukraine? The idea they are earmarked for a post war rebuild of Ukraine is simply an idea, I think. My initial thought was that Ukraine would be able to issue bonds using these assets as collateral. What the Ukraine government did with the proceeds from those bonds would be their decision. Ukraine has to survive the war first. By no stretch will $300 billion be the only compensation sought by Ukraine for damages done by Russia. It will be in the trillions of $. The EU not providing funds to Ukraine because of Hungary is a bit of a smoke screen IMHO. The EU is composed of sovereign countries who can send foreign aid to whom they please. Military equipment might have some fine points as far as NATO treaty restrictions but I am not familiar with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 hours ago, SilentSam said: Can't wait. Will apply as soon as it's passed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Gurn said: Wonder how many pilots, of various militaries are of Ukrainian descent? I'd suggest a few of Canada's pilots are, and now that their path to Ukrainian citizen ship is clear-there may be a few that go to Ukraine. Might be time for Canada- and a few other countries to sell off some 'surplus' planes. Not quite open yet. It's just a proposed law (which actually has been submitted to the parliament back in 2019 but has been dormant since). Hopefully, it'll get passed fast. After all, Zelensky's party has full control of the parliament (one of the situations where I don't mind that monopoly ). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 20 hours ago, SilentSam said: Hopefully the unrest and distrust grows in RuZ .. Maybe they should be using a few hundred drones and load them up with postcards of dead Russian bodies, left on the battlefield and drop those on some of the major cities. That might help create more unrest in Russia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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