SilentSam Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Please describe the efforts for peace you would like to see and how they would work. I'm also curious to see if you could expand and explain this: 'I find it interesting how neo liberalism resembles neo con war mongering of the 80’s ' He defies logic , He will disappear now for a few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SilentSam said: The fact that they say ATACMS ( cluster munitions ) were used. Cluster bombs would have annihilated every one on that beach if that was the case. This is debris from a faulty defensive missile . Educate yourself ,. But at 50 , I guess your too old for that too . Dont come here to learn. Or spit. Errr so I don’t know that a cluster munition isn’t a cluster bomb errrr sorry bro I don’t play call of duty all day so much anger Edited June 23 by ArmchairGM22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 7 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Please describe the efforts for peace you would like to see and how they would work. I'm also curious to see if you could expand and explain this: 'I find it interesting how neo liberalism resembles neo con war mongering of the 80’s ' I can’t take you seriously we discussed this I’m blocking all the kids crying about someone in their sandbox you can block me too if I’m such a problem for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Ya and i just saw this on twitter i also said I’m anti war and want peace not WW3 Grow up now sure when so called liberals became neo con war mongers what a world Pootin invaded Ukraine. He started this war. Peace would be happening if he doesn’t invade. Your statement wanting peace makes no sense in this context. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Alflives said: Pootin invaded Ukraine. He started this war. Peace would be happening if he doesn’t invade. Your statement wanting peace makes no sense in this context. Indeed and he’s not going back so you either find a way to peace or you keep warring until nukes are dropped what’s a better solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, ArmchairGM22 said: I can’t take you seriously we discussed this I’m blocking all the kids crying about someone in their sandbox you can block me too if I’m such a problem for you This. BLOCK people before you break our rules, everyone. Also feel free to use the report feature for true infractions of our rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: I can’t take you seriously we discussed this I’m blocking all the kids crying about someone in their sandbox you can block me too if I’m such a problem for you So you just get to say shit without ever having to explain it? And this is because of me? Seriously? I have blocked you before (because you say shit without ever really explaining it) but I've decided it's an interesting psychological experiment to see what you are saying. I'm sure I am not the only one curious on your proposed pathway to peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Indeed and he’s not going back so you either find a way to peace or you keep warring until nukes are dropped what’s a better solution? Are you suggesting Ukraine should not fight to keep their country from being occupied? You have read the reports of the brutality committed on Ukrainian people, no? What Pootin is doing now is eerily similar to what Hitler did in occupying and abusing his neighbors. Much of the world tried to make some kind of peace with Hitler. How did that work out? Men like Hitler and Pootin care nothing for peace. They see those who try to negotiate peace as weak, foolish, and to be taken advantage of. Ukraine needs to fight. And the free world needs to support them, because history has shown time again that a mofu like Pootin will not stop until he is stopped. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VegasCanuck Posted June 23 Popular Post Share Posted June 23 14 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Ya and i just saw this on twitter i also said I’m anti war and want peace not WW3 Grow up now sure when so called liberals became neo con war mongers what a world I agree completely, no one on here wants WW3, but you also have to remember from history, the reason WW2 started, killing millions was because they didn't stand up to the Fascist Dictator soon enough. By the time they did, he already had invaded Poland and has built up enough military hardware to roll right through France. There's a point where you have to do what needs to be done if you want to actually live a life where you're free to post what you want online without someone showing up and arresting you like they do in Russia. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Ya and i just saw this on twitter i also said I’m anti war and want peace not WW3 Grow up now sure when so called liberals became neo con war mongers what a world Of course. You've no preferred side in this and feel the exact same about Ukranian civilian deaths caused by intentional Russian attacks on civilian infrastructure and about the now estimated 780,000 stolen children sent to Russia which is totally why all your posts here echo that and you don't have an agenda or preferred side at all and you don't want war...wait what's this? Oh..... what a world 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 7 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Indeed and he’s not going back so you either find a way to peace or you keep warring until nukes are dropped what’s a better solution? The world did nothing when the last guy tried to take over europe, how'd that work out? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: I prefer no war and no deaths seems a lot here want people to continue to die theres been no effort for peace as the world is hurling towards WW3 I find it interesting how neo liberalism resembles neo con war mongering of the 80’s What you don’t understand is that RuZ is doing the killing and has worked to terrorize the World for Years. If Europe and the West do not stand against it .. and support UKR, Then they let RuZ become more powerful and continue to kill and exploit other countries. NATO was a peace program, countries were invited. The premise To slowly dismantle nuclear power as a weapon . The realization point to get to that was after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Putin was invited to that program. His rebuttal was fierce and threatening to the West. He wanted to keep his threat with Nuclear Power, rather than advance our generation in the direction of doing greater things with it, he put the World on Alert. Even talking more of Imperialism and steps backwards into history. In good faith UKraine dismantled , and gave up most of its weaponry, and aircraft to join the West in solidarity, and prove to Russia they would not be a threat. Russia invaded UKraine. If you want to listen to historians , watch this in its entirety. 9 x 1 hr episodes. This describes in detail how we got to this point , and the history before it happened. It’s documented. If you don’t, or do not have time to, please , stay away from this thread. https://www.netflix.com/us/title/81614129?s=i&trkid=258593161&vlang=en&clip=81760324 Edited June 23 by SilentSam 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Indeed and he’s not going back so you either find a way to peace or you keep warring until nukes are dropped what’s a better solution? To erase Russia from Ukranian soil. That's the only solution. If he's not going back that's his problem and it will result in endless tragedy in the process. But this is a tragedy of his making and if he uses Nukes then NATO will turn Moscow in to a parking lot and do that erasing for Ukraine. If you have issue with this then you know that the only real solution is for Russia to give up and go home or you have an agenda. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe King Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 30 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: I prefer no war and no deaths seems a lot here want people to continue to die theres been no effort for peace as the world is hurling towards WW3 I find it interesting how neo liberalism resembles neo con war mongering of the 80’s 20 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Please describe the efforts for peace you would like to see and how they would work. I would also like to see their peace plan. I would like to add these and hundreds of thousands of lives could have been saved if russia had stayed on their own side of the border. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: The world did nothing when the last guy tried to take over europe, how'd that work out? Saddam was Hitler Putin was Hitler Trump is Hitler can’t keep track of all the Hitler’s do you believe there’s propaganda in war? do you believe there’s profit in war? It doesn’t absolve Putin, but being aware we don’t get all the truth or maybe even any truth is awareness apparently Saddam had WMD’s too. How did that work out? trillions spent Hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims killed lots of money made by the war mongers think deeper dude Edited June 23 by ArmchairGM22 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Saddam was Hitler Putin was Hitler Trump is Hitler can’t keep track of all the Hitler’s do you believe there’s propaganda in war? do you believe there’s profit in war? It doesn’t absolve Putin, but being aware we don’t get all the truth or maybe even any truth is awareness apparently Saddam had WMD’s too. How did that work out? trillions spent millions of innocent Muslims killed lots of money made by the war mongers think deeper dude Hitler was supposed to stop after he took the Sudetenland. Putin was supposed to stop after he took Crimea. The difference between you and me is I don't need social media to tell me how to think. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Hitler was supposed to stop after he took the Sudetenland. Putin was supposed to stop after he took Crimea. The difference between you and me is I don't need social media to tell me how to think. Interesting you can’t seem to respond without an insult which says more about you than me, but I digress it’s interesting you didn’t notice a trend, of the media calling people Hitler why would they do that so often do you think? why do you cheer war and not want peace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Saddam was Hitler Putin was Hitler Trump is Hitler can’t keep track of all the Hitler’s do you believe there’s propaganda in war? do you believe there’s profit in war? It doesn’t absolve Putin, but being aware we don’t get all the truth or maybe even any truth is awareness apparently Saddam had WMD’s too. How did that work out? trillions spent Hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims killed lots of money made by the war mongers think deeper dude You've told us to grow up. You've told us to think deeper. Can you follow your own advice? I do not believe anyone here truly believes the WMD story or thinks favorably of the Iraq fiasco. That's one of your 3 explained. Only Hitler was Hitler. Putin is not Hitler. He just seems to be following the same playbook in many ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: why do you cheer war and not want peace? LOL Ok, let's do this. Let's try to have an adult conversation shall we. No snide comments or twitter links, your actual thoughts on this and why you think he'd stop when his history says otherwise In 99 he only wanted Dagestan it's just that one area, so let him have it. No big deal he wanted peace. So it's ok. 99/2000 he only wanted Chechnya. So let him have it, then we can have peace. 2008 he only wanted South Osetia. iThat's fine, it's a small area let him have it. if it means peace. 2008, well why not all of Georgia. Peace will happen afterwards In 2014. Putin only wanted Crimea. It was Russian afterall so he took it. That's all he wanted. People wanted peace and that's all he wanted so let him have it. 2022....ya understanding the pattern here? If Putin is given all the land he has currently taken in the name of peace. Do you honestly think for even a second he will stop at that? What about his history suggests he would stop there? He already has agents working to destabilize regions all over central Europe and Africa. is there any reason you genuinely think he will stop if peace is declared tomorrow and arms are put down? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Saddam was Hitler Putin was Hitler Trump is Hitler can’t keep track of all the Hitler’s do you believe there’s propaganda in war? do you believe there’s profit in war? It doesn’t absolve Putin, but being aware we don’t get all the truth or maybe even any truth is awareness apparently Saddam had WMD’s too. How did that work out? trillions spent Hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims killed lots of money made by the war mongers think deeper dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 6 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Interesting you can’t seem to respond without an insult which says more about you than me, but I digress it’s interesting you didn’t notice a trend, of the media calling people Hitler why would they do that so often do you think? why do you cheer war and not want peace? Cheer war? That's rich. Okay so what you're saying is Ukraine and Russia should settle for peace. So let's say that happens, what do you do when Russia invades another region? Settle for more peace? Where is the logic in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Said very well - good post to read fully this is the point and the lemmings will cheer WW3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: LOL Ok, let's do this. Let's try to have an adult conversation shall we. No snide comments or twitter links, your actual thoughts on this and why you think he'd stop when his history says otherwise In 99 he only wanted Dagestan it's just that one area, so let him have it. No big deal he wanted peace. So it's ok. 99/2000 he only wanted Chechnya. So let him have it, then we can have peace. 2008 he only wanted South Osetia. iThat's fine, it's a small area let him have it. if it means peace. 2008, well why not all of Georgia. Peace will happen afterwards In 2014. Putin only wanted Crimea. It was Russian afterall so he took it. That's all he wanted. People wanted peace and that's all he wanted so let him have it. 2022....ya understanding the pattern here? If Putin is given all the land he has currently taken in the name of peace. Do you honestly think for even a second he will stop at that? What about his history suggests he would stop there? He already has agents working to destabilize regions all over central Europe and Africa. is there any reason you genuinely think he will stop if peace is declared tomorrow and arms are put down? Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Cheer war? That's rich. Okay so what you're saying is Ukraine and Russia should settle for peace. So let's say that happens, what do you do when Russia invades another region? Settle for more peace? Where is the logic in that? Well I guess only way to find out if peace can be held is to try it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Said very well - good post to read fully this is the point and the lemmings will cheer WW3 Well if their is a WW3 to get rid of that fuck, I’ll sign up if requested. But I do trust that we in the West will unleash Hell and dissolve RuZ within a month , with the same type of power Putin continues to threaten us with. He lives in another era of mankind.. and must face his own threats with what he threatens with. Now what do you know about Nuclear weapons? You saw what happened to Germany / Hitler once the World moved against him? Edited June 23 by SilentSam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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