The Russia/Ukraine War Thread

[SilentSam]

Amongst certain this is made from AI ..

 

but it is a good point .

 

 

 

 

[Rook]

13 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

 

 

This is beautiful, thank you for posting brother!

[King Heffy]

 

 

Why is our resident orc not outraged at this?

[Satchmo]

3 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

Azovs? I’m not an Azov 

This post really irked me so I've come back to it.   I'll see your Azovs and raise you The Werewolf Legion,Schultz-88,Mad Crowd, National Socialist Party of Russia, The Saviour and White Society-88.  There about 8 others I could mention but hopefully my point is made.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism_in_Russia

[StrayDog]

15 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

 

 

Why is our resident orc not outraged at this?

Fake news - please provide an orc approved X account

[Alflives]

1 hour ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

I follow independent journalists on Twitter 

 

people like Glen Greenwald, Matt Taibi, Breaking Points podcast (Krystal and Sagar). 
 

these people point you to source documents you can read for yourself 

 

it seems many here don’t do that, nor have sources outside main stream media. Because if they did, once they compare source documents to what they’re told, they would see very quickly they’re being lied to.

 

most people tend to offload that work to the news and then think they have an accurate and informed opinion. When faced with new information they get angry because they cannot admit they’ve potentially been hoodwinked. 

 

I suggest following those people and breaking points is great because one of them is slightly left, the other slightly right and they don’t let either BS on Facts and are intellectually honest when faced with facts they don’t like. 
 

cheers 

Do you understand King’s quote, which is an extension of others who desired true peace?

“True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice." 

Is it “just” that Pootin invaded and occupied a neighbour and claimed it as his? 
 

[Silent Man]

24 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

 

 

Why is our resident orc not outraged at this?

This is my native city- Kharkiv.

I am checking on my friends and relatives every day since the invasion started and a friend of mine told me that he walked by this place about 20 min before the strike.

Our resident orcs and all orcs for this matter have sold their souls to the devil.

What is really pisses me off- there are orcs who live on Vancouver, work for Government and openly support Russian invasion on social media.

[Bob Long]

15 minutes ago, Silent Man said:

 

What is really pisses me off- there are orcs who live on Vancouver, work for Government and openly support Russian invasion on social media.

 

there are, but try to remember that these people are cowards who really don't move the needle in any real way. Most people in Canada support Ukraine and thats what matters, not the weird little losers who play it up on social media. 

 

[Boudrias]

1 hour ago, SilentSam said:

 

 

Most of us here wish the best for Ukraine. We support the best we can. The only time in my life when I personally knew refugees were the Hungarians in the '50's and the Vietnamese in the '80's. I don't know any Ukrainians but like the Hungarians and Vietnamese they experiencing hard and violent times that we cannot imagine. The fact that so many Ukrainians are willing to sacrifice so much should not escape us. Their country has been invaded and their people killed. 

Our support should never waiver and should be increased so that the Russians can be thrown out of their country.

 

Couple days back there was a video of 3 Russian soldiers running down a road. One was wounded by a drone and his buddy following him simply shot him in the head and ran on. That is Russia today. How do you explain such a think?

[SilentSam]

15 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

there are, but try to remember that these people are cowards who really don't move the needle in any real way. Most people in Canada support Ukraine and thats what matters, not the weird little losers who play it up on social media. 

 

But Bob ,  this is exactly what happened after the Berlin Wall  came down .

RuZ sent people out to a free democracy only to create a template for disinformation/ spying, sabotage, and terrorism.

 

It could expand here easily, it is already here .   Bot farms promote propaganda and create an alternate reality for some to align with.

 

… the effects of which create protests for Peace when they are losing,.  and alliances of hate and distrust when winning.

 

RuZ is really a glass menagerie.

They contribute nothing to the Wirkd because their leadership leaves them as uneducated follow worshippers.

[Bob Long]

2 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

But Bob ,  this is exactly what happened after the Berlin Wall  came down .

RuZ sent people out to a free democracy only to create a template for disinformation/ spying, sabotage, and terrorism.

 

It could expand here easily, it is already here .   Bot farms promote propaganda and create an alternate reality for some to align with.

 

… the effects of which create protests for Peace when they are losing,.  and alliances of hate and distrust when winning.

 

RuZ is really a glass menagerie.

They contribute nothing to the Wirkd because their leadership leaves them as uneducated follow worshippers.

 

we've always had people like this. We need to keep exposing what they are for sure, but it's good to remember that they are still very much a tiny group here. Its only social media that makes them look like they have a bigger voice.

 

Yeah the "peace talk" stuff is out there, but most people don't take it seriously, and our government sure isn't. 

 

 

Edited June 23 by Bob Long

[SilentSam]

2 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

we've always had people like this. We need to keep exposing what they are for sure, but it's good to remember that they are still very much a tiny group here. Its only social media that makes them look like they have a bigger voice.

 

Yeah the "peace talk" stuff is out there, but most people don't take it seriously, and our government sure isn't. 

 

 

i agree

 

but ..

I truly beleive that people who immigrate  should be monitored.

 

This is Canada.    Not a country to set up any belief or system from any other country .

Anyone or Immigrant,

not operating as a Diplomat from another country,

Does not , should not be allowed to be involved promoting propoganda.

 

there are deportation laws to be used.. and rarely are.

 

Im borderline on religion.

im not religious.

 

But the history with religion,  is directly tied to War.….  pitting one religion , and it’s “followers or worshippers” against another promoting protests,  provoking violence, and creating War.

 

Why don’t most of us protest religions or religious freedoms ?

 

Because we in Free Democracy , promote it as freedom of speech .

 

War .        Happens when Power is Corrupt.

Religion.      Is the Wolf in Sheep’s clothing because it to has proven to be Powerful and Corrupt.

 

[Bob Long]

3 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

i agree

 

but ..

I truly beleive that people who immigrate  should be monitored.

 

This is Canada.    Not a country to set up any belief or system from any other country .

Anyone or Immigrant,

not operating as a Diplomat from another country,

Does not , should not be allowed to be involved promoting propoganda.

 

there are deportation laws to be used.. and rarely are.

 

Im borderline on religion.

im not religious.

 

But the history with religion,  is directly tied to War.….  pitting one religion , and it’s “followers or worshippers” against another promoting protests,  provoking violence, and creating War.

 

Why don’t most of us protest religions or religious freedoms ?

 

Because we in Free Democracy , promote it as freedom of speech .

 

War .        Happens when Power is Corrupt.

Religion.      Is the Wolf in Sheep’s clothing because it to has proven to be Powerful and Corrupt.

 

 

I suspect the really vile ones are being tracked, as much as possible. 

 

Not sure how CSIS e.g., could track someone hiding behind a VPN, and if they can do that, they likely aren't going to make that public. 

 

Who we need to watch is which politicians are being influenced by Russian messaging, thats much easier to spot.

 

 

[Alflives]

18 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

But Bob ,  this is exactly what happened after the Berlin Wall  came down .

RuZ sent people out to a free democracy only to create a template for disinformation/ spying, sabotage, and terrorism.

 

It could expand here easily, it is already here .   Bot farms promote propaganda and create an alternate reality for some to align with.

 

… the effects of which create protests for Peace when they are losing,.  and alliances of hate and distrust when winning.

 

RuZ is really a glass menagerie.

They contribute nothing to the Wirkd because their leadership leaves them as uneducated follow worshippers.

IMHAO it’s important that these “bot” troll types are allowed to post here so the smart posters can expose their foolishness. Then other, more common types like Alf, see this happen and learn. 
On other platforms I guess there are a lot of morans out there who are easily manipulated by these lies. But I don’t see that here. Here the bot thoughts are quickly turned into a teaching moment for the truth. 

[ArmchairGM22]

Well will you look at that

 

Glen Greenwald, a gay, liberal REAL independent journalist argues the same as me. He’s the guy who was able to help Snowden btw - some follow up posts within the first post worth reading for those who are not closed minded

 

 

[SilentSam]

4 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

I suspect the really vile ones are being tracked, as much as possible. 

 

Not sure how CSIS e.g., could track someone hiding behind a VPN, and if they can do that, they likely aren't going to make that public. 

 

Who we need to watch is which politicians are being influenced by Russian messaging, thats much easier to spot.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

IMHAO it’s important that these “bot” troll types are allowed to post here so the smart posters can expose their foolishness. Then other, more common types like Alf, see this happen and learn. 
On other platforms I guess there are a lot of morans out there who are easily manipulated by these lies. But I don’t see that here. Here the bot thoughts are quickly turned into a teaching moment for the truth. 

i say ,  get of of Dodge .

We have laws they need to live up to .

 

otherwise,   Even SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY that can not be answered to,  and ANY activity trying to undermine a stable free Democracy,  should lead to deportation.

 

it’s a law that already exists to protect us from this and it’s rarely used.

 

How long before Palestinians are claiming a sector of land, State or area to call their own?

 

im not a WHITE  SUPREMEST ..  and I know because I have friends of many ethnicities and religious beliefs who would agree with me also.

                   But this is how other States and Empires in the World Work.

 

Break the immigration contract ,. And

 

 

[ArmchairGM22]

1 hour ago, Silent Man said:

This is my native city- Kharkiv.

I am checking on my friends and relatives every day since the invasion started and a friend of mine told me that he walked by this place about 20 min before the strike.

Our resident orcs and all orcs for this matter have sold their souls to the devil.

What is really pisses me off- there are orcs who live on Vancouver, work for Government and openly support Russian invasion on social media.

Wanting peace doesn’t mean supporting a Russian invasion 

 

some of us are old enough to know just killing more people is not a solution 

 

grinding up more young men and women solves nothing other than making the military industrial complex more wealthy. 

Edited June 23 by ArmchairGM22

[Satchmo]

4 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

Well will you look at that

 

Glen Greenwald, a gay, liberal REAL independent journalist argues the same as me. He’s the guy who was able to help Snowden btw - some follow up posts within the first post worth reading for those who are not closed minded

 

 

 

2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine[edit]

In an appearance on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Greenwald expressed support for the Ukraine biolabs conspiracy theory.^{[139][140][141]}

In 2022, the Security Service of Ukraine placed Greenwald on a list of public figures who it alleges promote Russian propaganda.^[142]

Edited June 23 by Satchmo

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

Wanting peace doesn’t mean supporting a Russian invasion 

 

some of us are old enough to know just killing more people is not a solution 

Please explain your solution. 

[ArmchairGM22]

4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Please explain your solution. 

That video I posted of Sachs would know better than me

 

the point is all this online concave chest beating by people saying we must push Russia back! Or we will never give up if Russia doesn’t leave and give the land back, is all fine and dandy because no one here is having their arms and legs blown off, no one here is losing 100’s of thousands of country men, all for politicians and oligarchs to play god 

 

this isn’t a video game

 

you try and find peace so the killing can stop 

 

what’s done is done… you don’t make it worse 

 

 

Edited June 24 by ArmchairGM22

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

Well will you look at that

 

Glen Greenwald, a gay, liberal REAL independent journalist argues the same as me. He’s the guy who was able to help Snowden btw - some follow up posts within the first post worth reading for those who are not closed minded

 

 

Holy carparolla! What in the heck does being gay have anything to do with a person’s ability to understand propaganda. Are gay people somehow immune from being morans?

My goodness. Do you even comprehend that your views are insanely bias and overly stereotyping. 

[Joe King]

3 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

Wanting peace doesn’t mean supporting a Russian invasion 

 

some of us are old enough to know just killing more people is not a solution 

 

grinding up more young men and women solves nothing other than making the military industrial complex more wealthy. 

The grinding up more people part. Tell that mad man to stop sending more of his people to get ground up and tell his people to stop grinding up Ukrainian people. Leave Ukraine and the grinding stops

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

That video I posted of Sachs would know better than me

 

the point is all this online concave chest beating by people saying we must push Russia back! Or we will never give up if Russia doesn’t leave and give the land back, is all fine and dandy because no one here is having their arms and legs blown off, no one here is losing 100’s of thousands of country men, all for politicians and oligarchs to play god 

 

this isn’t a video game

 

you try and find peace so the killing can stop 

 

what’s done is done… you don’t make it worse 

 

 

Okay. So your solution reflects this person’s. And that is, Pootin can invade and occupy his neighbor and claim conquered territory as his. 
And you actually believe that’s “just”? 

[King Heffy]

5 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said:

That video I posted of Sachs would know better than me

 

the point is all this online concave chest beating by people saying we must push Russia back! Or we will never give up if Russia doesn’t leave and give the land back, is all fine and dandy because no one here is having their arms and legs blown off, no one here is losing 100’s of thousands of country men, all for politicians and oligarchs to play god 

 

this isn’t a video game

 

you try and find peace so the killing can stop 

 

what’s done is done… you don’t make it worse 

 

 

The killing will stop once Ukraine is free of orcs.  There's no reason for anyone to treat Putin the same as people.  Quite simply, neither Putin nor Russian have the right to exist.

[ArmchairGM22]

Just now, Alflives said:

Okay. So your solution reflects this person’s. And that is, Pootin can invade and occupy his neighbor and claim conquered territory as his. 
And you actually believe that’s “just”? 

There is no just 

 

there is what there is 

 

Either the war ends or 100’s of thousands more die and maybe nuclear war starts 

 

utopian ideas do not work when you want peace dude