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20 minutes ago, SilentSam said:


 

 

 

 

When Putin invaded Ukraine he must have realized that Europe would never accept it. He must have thought he could pull off a quick win and then out last whatever political retaliations. I doubt the Russians have total delusion about their military capability. Under a full war footing I suspect Putin thought he could rebuild their military. The war has not gone well for the Russians. The Ukrainians have proven to be extremely resilient. Time is not turning out to be on the side of Russia but is benefiting Ukraine as equipment and munitions flood in. 

 

The idea that Putin would take the war to other European countries via covert or proxie forces is a true sign of desperation. NATO has got stronger and shown more resolve than anyone could imagine prior to 2022. NATO has grown not diminished. The only question mark is what a Trump presidency would mean for support of Ukraine. In the first Trump term Poland received significant weapon shipments.   

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21 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

Hopefully it draws RuZ out into the open..

 

 

Where the Fk are those F16’s !

 

 

 

There was talk of F-16's being in action by May and now the end of July. Not close to being good enough.

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27 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

When Putin invaded Ukraine he must have realized that Europe would never accept it. He must have thought he could pull off a quick win and then out last whatever political retaliations. I doubt the Russians have total delusion about their military capability. Under a full war footing I suspect Putin thought he could rebuild their military. The war has not gone well for the Russians. The Ukrainians have proven to be extremely resilient. Time is not turning out to be on the side of Russia but is benefiting Ukraine as equipment and munitions flood in. 

 

The idea that Putin would take the war to other European countries via covert or proxie forces is a true sign of desperation. NATO has got stronger and shown more resolve than anyone could imagine prior to 2022. NATO has grown not diminished. The only question mark is what a Trump presidency would mean for support of Ukraine. In the first Trump term Poland received significant weapon shipments.   

agree Bouds,.

 

But in Poland and Trump?

..were those shipments to Poland not authorized under the Obama govnt?

 

I thought shortly after taking power , Trump was threatening NATO for the US to leave ..

 

It was then that NATO realized Trumps threats and had their “woke” moment.

 

NATO and EU realized they can not trust the “destabilization “ created by RuZ in North America as well.

   They saw behind / under the “MAGA skirt”.

 

Putin has been infiltrating the World for 30+ years.

              He has influenced, and influences in the Free World through weak Dictators, politicians, judges, and actors.

Even in Venezuela he supports an Autocratic Dictatorship.

 

Putin needs to die and Trump needs to go to prison for the rest of his life or be hung/ executed for treason… something true Bipartisanship would have investigated properly to protect Democracy.

The situations in the US with “actors” and “agents” in their politics has to be fought.

 

Gaetz  MTG Jordan , the list is extensive,

include the propoganda of others, Carson, Manifort ,  ect.. ect..  the list goes on..

 

and Judicially. ..  Cannon , and at least 3 - 4 in SCOTUS.  


 

The Republicans are waking up with Harris soaring in the polls..  

they are starting to realize it’s best to step away from Trump MAGA now.

 

..or risk losing everything,.  Their Party, their careers, their country,  to a Regime that would push all republicans out of a window..  

 

I sincerely think that If Republicans wish to be honest with themselves and see they are in a lose everything moment ,  they will actually side with Democracy AND Democrats now.  

Bipartisanship is the only way republicans can survive, to live another day.

 

 

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“Kyiv Post obtained an exclusive photo Monday, July 29 from sources in Ukraine’s defense and security sector showing Tuareg rebels posing with a Ukrainian flag after having just dealt a major defeat to Russian state-funded Wagner mercenaries in Mali”

A bit earlier, Andriy Yusov, a representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, stated that “the rebels received necessary information, which enabled a successful military operation against Russian war criminals,” adding, “We won’t discuss the details at the moment, but there will be more to come.”
 


 

 

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15 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

agree Bouds,.

 

But in Poland and Trump?

..were those shipments to Poland not authorized under the Obama govnt?

 

I thought shortly after taking power , Trump was threatening NATO for the US to leave ..

 

It was then that NATO realized Trumps threats and had their “woke” moment.

 

NATO and EU realized they can not trust the “destabilization “ created by RuZ in North America as well.

   They saw behind / under the “MAGA skirt”.

 

Putin has been infiltrating the World for 30+ years.

              He has influenced, and influences in the Free World through weak Dictators, politicians, judges, and actors.

Even in Venezuela he supports an Autocratic Dictatorship.

 

Putin needs to die and Trump needs to go to prison for the rest of his life or be hung/ executed for treason… something true Bipartisanship would have investigated properly to protect Democracy.

The situations in the US with “actors” and “agents” in their politics has to be fought.

 

Gaetz  MTG Jordan , the list is extensive,

include the propoganda of others, Carson, Manifort ,  ect.. ect..  the list goes on..

 

and Judicially. ..  Cannon , and at least 3 - 4 in SCOTUS.  


 

The Republicans are waking up with Harris soaring in the polls..  

they are starting to realize it’s best to step away from Trump MAGA now.

 

..or risk losing everything,.  Their Party, their careers, their country,  to a Regime that would push all republicans out of a window..  

 

I sincerely think that If Republicans wish to be honest with themselves and see they are in a lose everything moment ,  they will actually side with Democracy AND Democrats now.  

Bipartisanship is the only way republicans can survive, to live another day.

 

 

I totally agree with you about the Putin/Russia threat. The Democrats, to their credit, have met the challenge. Not sure about the weapons being authorized during Obama or not. Surely Trump would have cancelled if he had wanted. 

 

Trump is a manifestation of a national unease that exists in the USA but is not restricted to that country. Trump supports a America first attitude by his supporters and is not unique to his admin. Many Americans could care less about what happens in other parts of the world. All they know is that they pay for it. By extension they fail to understand how the USA economy benefits from that spending. 

 

I cannot agree that Trump should be executed. If he committed treason then he should be tried. I don't know how America recovers their access to non partisan media. Both the GOP and DNC have politicized most aspects of their government. I do believe that a non partisan media would have largely nullified Trump's appeal to many citizens. 

 

Scary times but not unique. The world's moral compass has collapsed in so many cases.  

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Makes perfect sense :

 

 

 

The rebuild of UKR could be a beautiful evolution of civilization on Earth ..

 

New Tech advances everywhere in a modern era infrastructure.

 

Let the Pheonix rise in flight on the updrafts  of angels souls who have protected.

 

 

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On another front :

 

Suspicions….         Announced of new NATO weapons to be deployed into GUR over the weekend….  RuZ Putin threatened nuclear.

 

Taurus anyone ?

( send them through another country and load them with North Korean markings)

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

On another front :

 

Suspicions….         Announced of new NATO weapons to be deployed into GUR over the weekend….  RuZ Putin threatened nuclear.

 

Taurus anyone ?

( send them through another country and load them with North Korean markings)

 

 

 

 

To add to this post:

 

IT IS OBVIOUS .

 

 

 

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Again in GUR ..

 

 

Sadly the reason we need cameras everywhere and Facial Recognition /AI

to support security in Democracies.

 

Perhaps the Democratic Nations need to Fight against all Dictatorships and Authoritarian Autocracies on this planet.

 

The may be the only way the Planet  and Peace amongst humans in a civilized world can exist.

 

There has been NO Generational gaps in World conflicts,    Never a true Peace.

 

without it how do we ,  and this planet exist?

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NO GENERATIONAL GAP OR DIVIDE BE WITHIN WAR MONGING COUNTRIES.

 

HATE .      Deserves NO TOLERANCE.

 

No type of therapy or education can fix this mindset .

 

These women breed discontent to 2 surviving generations ,  and it goes on forever!!!

 

The hate is inbred , inherent, and uneducated.

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