The Russia/Ukraine War Thread

[Playoff Beered]

1 hour ago, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

The Kremlin loves this post.

 

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by Playoff Beered

[AatuD2]

Just now, Playoff Beered said:

 

The Kremlin loves this post.

 

Go and fight in the war instead of cheering it on from behind your keyboard.  

 

[Playoff Beered]

30 minutes ago, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

13 minutes ago, AatuD2 said:

Go and fight in the war instead of cheering it on from behind your keyboard.  

 

Let me guess, Tucker Carlson or Info wars is your main news source?

[the destroyer of worlds]

29 minutes ago, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

Let's just say that the war in Ukraine will end when Puttin Pie pulls his troops out of Ukraine's territory.  All of it.  

 

The reason why they are saying it will go on for years is because the Russians are throwing men and material into the meatgrinder, with no end in sight.  Want this to end quick, Puttin Pie probably has to die.  He isn't giving up.

 

Put it this way, the US invades and somehow we fight them off, but they have about 10 to 20 percent of our nation.  Territory that has some decent resources.  We give up, our nation is gone.  Are you OK with them just taking that land?   That is what giving up for Ukrainians looks like.

 

And this point of yours isn't new.  It's been made before.

[CaptainCanuck12]

28 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

The Kremlin loves this post.

Edited October 24, 2023 by CaptainCanuck12

[King Heffy]

35 minutes ago, AatuD2 said:

 

Go and fight in the war instead of cheering it on from behind your keyboard.  

 

Many of us have actually contributed something to the war effort voluntarily.  The only thing you're contributing is a suggestion that Ukraine dooms many of its civilians to rape, torture, and death because you want to pressure them to make a peace deal with Nazi vermin.  You can't negotiate with Putin; the only path towards peace is to exterminate him and the rest of his regime.  Like it or not, Ukraine is a democracy and they would rather fight than live under the rule of subhuman maniacs who are trying to commit genocide against them.  It is the Ukrainian's decision to make, not yours, mine, or anyone who doesn't have to live or die with the consequences.

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[WeneedLumme]

6 hours ago, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

Most of us find the idea that Ukraine should negotiate with the predator about how much of Ukraine the predator gets and how much the Ukrainians should be allowed to keep, disgusting. Some people feel that it is better to die fighting for your freedom than to live as a slave. You evidently are not one of those people.

[RomanPer]

7 hours ago, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

I did everything (served in 2 armies, was at war, lived in a country in a permanent state of war) you are asking about, what’s your point? Are you proposing giving something to putin? You don’t have to go too far in history, just to 1938 Munich agreement to “avoid the war” on expense of part of Czechoslovakia. Please tell me how well it worked.

[Bob Long]

2 hours ago, Sharpshooter said:

 

 

100% he handed it over for money for his stupid hotel in Washington.

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[JIAHN]

21 hours ago, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

 

I have never been to war, but my father had and spoke of it in rather gruesome detail..................so I get what you are saying about how terrible it is

 

But, as many people here have stated, it is the right of the Ukrainian people to decide, and it is not improper in any way, for the people on this forum to be out raged, and hope for the worst outcome for the Russian's

 

Yes, people on both sides are dying...........a tragedy for certain

 

But, remember the early days of the war, when Russia invaded, and women and children were raped in front of their husbands and fathers, before their fathers were shot!

Oh, yes, and in one case a baby was raped!.........a fate worse then death.............

 

I want you to think about that.........think of your children experiencing that, if you did not fight..............imagine the rage within you.............

 

Now, imagine, Ukraine conceding territory, and Russian armies, again, behaving like animals, raping and killing, what would then be their own citizens............with absolutely no control or ability to stop it.................

 

This is what you are asking every day Ukrainians to concede...............

 

Think of a Russian sexually assaulting you child, or your mother, or your wife, your grand mother your son, or your girlfriend............think about the anger and the rage you would have.............

 

Imagine what you would do to stop that..............

 

Conceding territory to the Russians, guarantees nothing.............the guarantee from an unethical, inhumane, animal............is worth nothing

 

All it does is prove to Putin that the world is toothless, and that at the end of the day, the west has no stomach for war, or for the cost of war

 

That is why Ukraine fights

That is why the west supplies

 

Now look in the mirror and remember the rage you would have if it it happened to you and yours................

 

There is no other conclusion!

 

Unless you are Russian, of course!

 

PS............I am disgusted, that I have to write this, to explain to you why!

 

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by JIAHN

[SilentSam]

A larger report of that 1400 troop loss recently ,.

just to add to previous reports.

 

 

 

[SilentSam]

Has to be ATACMS ,. (depleted uranium ) Basically vaporizing that metal and turning inside out…

 

 

 

 

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[Playoff Beered]

39 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

A larger report of that 1400 troop loss recently ,.

just to add to previous reports.

 

 

[Playoff Beered]

 

[DSVII]

On 10/24/2023 at 4:05 PM, AatuD2 said:

Do you guys realize that this is not a video game, and real Ukrainians and Russians are losing their lives?  

How many of you have served in a war where lives were lost?  Have any of you lived in a war-torn country?  I have and there is NO winners. 

 

Why is the US and the EU budgeting for this war to go on for another 2-4 years?  

Where is the push for a peace agreement?  Why was Ukraine pushed out of peace negotiations in favour of a war more then a year ago?  

 

 

People that are profiting from this war are: 

1. US arms dealers, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

2. US companies that will rebuild, to the tune of billions of dollars. 

3. Russian arms companies. 

4. Russian oil companies. 

5. NATO with new members. 

 

That's it. Ukraine has been set back decades.  Everybody that was smart has left the country.  Men of all ages have died.  Infrastructure has been destroyed, mind you Blackrock will probably get a billion dollar contract to rebuild some of it in a decade. 

 

I would suggest directing this to the Russian government who are treating their soldiers less than what I'd do in a video game.

 

Russia is projected to lose 7 million population in the next few years, including a million of the best and brightest for the sake of a bitter old man.

 

Let's not forget. Ukrainians are whole heartedly supporting the war effort. They're fighting to defend their homes. And it's absolutely vital to not just Ukraine but to you and your kids in the future that Putin does not walk away from the war with any gains. Because it will only encourage him to act more. Look no further than Hitler with Czech and Austria. It'll be your kids in the trench before long if the international community doesn't nip this in the bud.

Edited October 25, 2023 by DSVII

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Johnson being elected speaker is not gonna be good for Ukraine going forward. The guy is deeply against aiding Ukraine and will stonewall all aide to Ukraine moving forward.