RomanPer Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Yea why not? Who cares about whichever country wins and loses? People's lives have meaning, not their countries. People of Ukraine? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Yea why not? Who cares about whichever country wins and loses? People's lives have meaning, not their countries. The people who would be living under a Russian state that wants to commit genocide against them care. I sincerely hope you're trolling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6foot5andJackedAF Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The people who would be living under a Russian state that wants to commit genocide against them care. I sincerely hope you're trolling. Well my whole point is we need to get those people out of harms way, first of all. Like lets keep it REAL okay. The russian state, if we could just you know, deal with that then problem solved. But the Russian soliders are victims too. They are being forced similar to the Ukraian Soliders. Literally every single solider on both sides of the battlefield would rather be at home watching Television cuddling next to a cutie and eating Russian Hot Cheetos. You cannot say they aren't forced to be there. Good state vs bad state? How about both Ukraine and Russia are bad for making the people fight people who are similar to them. The most ideal solution is; All the soldiers on both sides lay down their weapons, or they turn their weapons against the state that is forcing them to fight. Edited December 5, 2023 by 6foot5andJackedAF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Well my whole point is we need to get those people out of harms way, first of all. Like lets keep it REAL okay. The russian state, if we could just you know, deal with that then problem solved. But the Russian soliders are victims too. They are being forced similar to the Ukraian Soliders. Literally every single solider on both sides of the battlefield would rather be at home watching Television cuddling next to a cutie and eating Russian Hot Cheetos. You cannot say they aren't forced to be there. Good state vs bad state? How about both Ukraine and Russia are bad for making the people fight people who are similar to them. The most ideal solution is; All the soldiers on both sides lay down their weapons, or they turn their weapons against the state that is forcing them to fight. If Russia lays down their weapons, there is no war. If Ukraine lays down their weapons, there is no Ukraine. Ukraine is in fact a democracy, and collectively they have decided they would rather fight back than doom their citizens to oppression under Putin's barbaric regime. It is not our place to tell them otherwise. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6foot5andJackedAF Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: If Russia lays down their weapons, there is no war. If Ukraine lays down their weapons, there is no Ukraine. Ukraine is in fact a democracy, and collectively they have decided they would rather fight back than doom their citizens to oppression under Putin's barbaric regime. It is not our place to tell them otherwise. And what about the men who scream and cry, begging not to be taken away to war? Or have you not seen those photos and videos? What about the men who are falsely tricked into believing in a "state" (such as yourself) being a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: And what about the men who scream and cry, begging not to be taken away to war? Or have you not seen those photos and videos? What about the men who are falsely tricked into believing in a "state" (such as yourself) being a good thing? So you're an anarchist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 46 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Good state vs bad state? How about both Ukraine and Russia are bad for making the people fight people who are similar to them. Which state invaded the other? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yoshiyoshi Posted December 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: And what about the men who scream and cry, begging not to be taken away to war? Or have you not seen those photos and videos? What about the men who are falsely tricked into believing in a "state" (such as yourself) being a good thing? I dont know where to begin with your posts, the ignorance is astounding. Russia is attacking and trying to enslave them, and you want to force them to give in. Sure there are a small number of people who dont want to fight but the vast majority of Ukrainians dont ever want to be under Russian rule again. Judging by the number of posts you have im going to assume you are a troll but ill continue answering anyways. In addition to avoiding slavery, Ukraine is also helping the rest of the world by draining Russian resources and trained personnel. Russia has been a belligerent nation and has undermined the stability of the world for more than a decade, has been threatening and invading neighbors and also hurting their own people through their rampant corruption. The longer they are allowed to act without resistance, the more harm they will do to the world. If we dont help the fight in Ukraine, then we will have to fight them in Estonia, Poland, Finland etc when Russia next acts. Russia is already launching attacks through deploying massive numbers of refugees to the border and they will continue to do anything in their power to attack western nations because Russia is opposed to western ideals and wants a world where the powerful can do whatever they want without consequence and take whatever they want when they want it. This is a problem that like many types, the longer it goes without being fixed, the more expensive it becomes to fix and countering Russia in Ukraine will be far cheaper than fighting them in a NATO country in open warfare. As to the comment about states, a state is the evolution of civilization from small tribes into larger groups, allowing the organization of greater levels of manpower and resources than can be managed at smaller levels. Without states there would be no modern civilization and you can see in various places in Africa what happens without a state, just a bunch of warlords killing everyone for petty resources. Whatever form they take, whatever governing style they use, they are superior to any stateless society unless you think living Amish style is the way to go. 1 2 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RomanPer Posted December 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Well my whole point is we need to get those people out of harms way, first of all. Like lets keep it REAL okay. The russian state, if we could just you know, deal with that then problem solved. But the Russian soliders are victims too. They are being forced similar to the Ukraian Soliders. Literally every single solider on both sides of the battlefield would rather be at home watching Television cuddling next to a cutie and eating Russian Hot Cheetos. You cannot say they aren't forced to be there. Good state vs bad state? How about both Ukraine and Russia are bad for making the people fight people who are similar to them. The most ideal solution is; All the soldiers on both sides lay down their weapons, or they turn their weapons against the state that is forcing them to fight. How to ask this question without being banned… Are you ok? 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JIAHN Posted December 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Well my whole point is we need to get those people out of harms way, first of all. Like lets keep it REAL okay. The russian state, if we could just you know, deal with that then problem solved. But the Russian soliders are victims too. They are being forced similar to the Ukraian Soliders. Literally every single solider on both sides of the battlefield would rather be at home watching Television cuddling next to a cutie and eating Russian Hot Cheetos. You cannot say they aren't forced to be there. Good state vs bad state? How about both Ukraine and Russia are bad for making the people fight people who are similar to them. The most ideal solution is; All the soldiers on both sides lay down their weapons, or they turn their weapons against the state that is forcing them to fight. Ok, I will take the suspension. You are an idiot! 7 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StrayDog Posted December 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, JIAHN said: Ok, I will take the suspension. You are an idiot! I thank and honor you for your sacrifice. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Well my whole point is we need to get those people out of harms way, first of all. Like lets keep it REAL okay. The russian state, if we could just you know, deal with that then problem solved. But the Russian soliders are victims too. They are being forced similar to the Ukraian Soliders. Literally every single solider on both sides of the battlefield would rather be at home watching Television cuddling next to a cutie and eating Russian Hot Cheetos. You cannot say they aren't forced to be there. Good state vs bad state? How about both Ukraine and Russia are bad for making the people fight people who are similar to them. The most ideal solution is; All the soldiers on both sides lay down their weapons, or they turn their weapons against the state that is forcing them to fight. In your final sentence you suggest “all soldiers turn their weapons against the state that is forcing them to fight.”Pootin is the reason there is fighting so all soldiers should turn the weapons on him and those who support him? I think the Russian soldiers should turn against their state leaders. But Ukrainian soldiers should stay out of that. They should help rebuild their country. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6foot5andJackedAF Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Way too much ignorance for me to respond to. Don’t believe everything you see in movies, kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Way too much ignorance for me to respond to. Don’t believe everything you see in movies, kids. I hear them alt theatres are fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rook Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 hours ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Yea why not? Who cares about whichever country wins and loses? People's lives have meaning, not their countries. You must be being intentionally obtuse, nobody is this ignorant without trying 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rook Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: And what about the men who scream and cry, begging not to be taken away to war? Or have you not seen those photos and videos? What about the men who are falsely tricked into believing in a "state" (such as yourself) being a good thing? It’s only the Russians 4 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Way too much ignorance for me to respond to. Don’t believe everything you see in movies, kids. The only ignorance in here is you kid. I hope you meet the our lovely forum sniper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Way too much ignorance for me to respond to. Don’t believe everything you see in movies, kids. Speaking of ignorance, I'll bring up the Ignore function. You are new here and may not know of it. If a poster consistently posts nonsense, or seems to have some hidden agenda, you can just block them and no longer see their posts. I'm just about to use it and suggest others do as well. Hope you enjoy tonight's game and thanks for your support of the Canucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 20 hours ago, SilentSam said: The Russians have very few of these planes. Probably no more than 30. Not sure they would sacrifice them at the start of F16's entering the war. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 6foot5andJackedAF said: Way too much ignorance for me to respond to. Don’t believe everything you see in movies, kids. I love the sentiments of your recent posts. It could be that easy. It really could. Troops could just simply refuse to fight....in all tribes. We are smart enough now to know that we are all being lead by a very rich minority. They use the same mechanisms they have used for a long time...they use religion, lies, and fear etc, to control. It could be easy, but It would take a paradigm shift and it will not happen. Humans will destroy themselves. There really is no hope. Those few that are left in the caves will wonder how it all went so bad. That it didn't need to be this way. Humans could have refused to kill for their leaders/ gods/ culture...It could have been so easy. Edited December 5, 2023 by bishopshodan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Rook said: It’s only the Russians The only ignorance in here is you kid. I hope you meet the our lovely forum sniper Look at the passive aggressive username and the bullshit shots he takes… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Yoshiyoshi said: I dont know where to begin with your posts, the ignorance is astounding. Russia is attacking and trying to enslave them, and you want to force them to give in. Sure there are a small number of people who dont want to fight but the vast majority of Ukrainians dont ever want to be under Russian rule again. Judging by the number of posts you have im going to assume you are a troll but ill continue answering anyways. In addition to avoiding slavery, Ukraine is also helping the rest of the world by draining Russian resources and trained personnel. Russia has been a belligerent nation and has undermined the stability of the world for more than a decade, has been threatening and invading neighbors and also hurting their own people through their rampant corruption. The longer they are allowed to act without resistance, the more harm they will do to the world. If we dont help the fight in Ukraine, then we will have to fight them in Estonia, Poland, Finland etc when Russia next acts. Russia is already launching attacks through deploying massive numbers of refugees to the border and they will continue to do anything in their power to attack western nations because Russia is opposed to western ideals and wants a world where the powerful can do whatever they want without consequence and take whatever they want when they want it. This is a problem that like many types, the longer it goes without being fixed, the more expensive it becomes to fix and countering Russia in Ukraine will be far cheaper than fighting them in a NATO country in open warfare. As to the comment about states, a state is the evolution of civilization from small tribes into larger groups, allowing the organization of greater levels of manpower and resources than can be managed at smaller levels. Without states there would be no modern civilization and you can see in various places in Africa what happens without a state, just a bunch of warlords killing everyone for petty resources. Whatever form they take, whatever governing style they use, they are superior to any stateless society unless you think living Amish style is the way to go. I can't be bothered even addressing those posts. I am still trying to understand how twisted a society when a Russian POW is allowed to phone home and his wife answers the call while partying. She could not even respond to his call in a coherent manner. Many of these Russian soldiers are signing contracts for the money they receive. Many are there for the money plain and simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said: Look at the passive aggressive username and the bullshit shots he takes… I was wondering if steroids are messing with his mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 UKR has been busy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Interesting.. still hope this movement grows.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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