King Heffy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Could be … Hopefully the air defence package is already in Ukraine for the inevitable retaliation against schools and shopping centers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIAHN Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Just wondering here...............but I wonder what the cost would be if Russia wins and 30 million Ukrainians run from their country? IMO....that reeks of disaster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Russia tight-lipped over claims Putin's top war commander killed in Crimea strike (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canuck Surfer Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, D.B Cooper said: Just seems like a dickhead comment. Id be perfectly happy to not send my tax dollars to help fund a war in another continent if they are gonna bitch about it. Support to Ukraine is roughly 5% of America's defense budget. People complain wherever there is govt. spending. Until its them that loses their job over Covid. Needs support to not lose their home while the economy recovers. Ukraine is like some getting Covid. Its an existential risk. The spread can still be stopped. Of course many were of the opinion, who cares, as long as I can go to the bar. Pretend a massive war articulates if Ukraine collapses. Then Russia, as they said they will, goes to reclaim, Poland, the Baltics, Romania & the splits of Czechoslovakia? Then imagine 2 of your 3 sons being drafted and sent to a war. They come back dead because, perhaps, your view did not represent the most efficient way to deter a bigger war. 500,000 plus are dead. Its any US President's job to gauge how not to include Americans, safeguard their way of life in measuring risk. 3 hours ago, SilentSam said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, JIAHN said: Just wondering here...............but I wonder what the cost would be if Russia wins and 30 million Ukrainians run from their country? IMO....that reeks of disaster! You do realize that is an objective and reason why RuZ invaded? That is an objective in most Wars. The cost of that type of migration and change of world trade is probably 10 times more than what has been put into supporting UKraine. Now that North Korea is supplying Long Range Ballistic missiles to RuZ. it could happen , hopefully the U.S. GOP, and Nato in general are looking at retaliation in the very least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said: Support to Ukraine is roughly 5% of America's defense budget. People complain wherever there is govt. spending. Until its them that loses their job over Covid. Needs support to not lose their home while the economy recovers. Ukraine is like some getting Covid. Its an existential risk. The spread can still be stopped. Of course many were of the opinion, who cares, as long as I can go to the bar. Thing is, if American wanted to end the war they would have done it a long time ago. They quite easily could have supplied Ukraine everything they themselves would have used to defeat Russia right off the bat. Instead they spoon fed them, prolonging this bullshit. Also, why is it up to us/USA to fund this thing? It should be Europe stopping this shit, right off the bat. Not saying we shouldn’t, I think we should all just end this this right away by just letting nato gear up and go at Russia. If that means Canadian/American money/soldiers helping, we gotta do what we gotta do. Again, my only guff was about his guys comments. I’ve seen Zelenskyy do the same shit. Ask, beg, plead. Sure. Do what you gotta do, but taking some stab towards the countries who are helping you survive was a dumb comment. That’s all. Also, I don’t know who the guy is. Could be a no one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JIAHN Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, SilentSam said: You do realize that is an objective and reason why RuZ invaded? That is an objective in most Wars. The cost of that type of migration and change of world trade is probably 10 times more than what has been put into supporting UKraine. Now that North Korea is supplying Long Range Ballistic missiles to RuZ. it could happen , hopefully the U.S. GOP, and Nato in general are looking at retaliation in the very least. Well, yes Sam I do realize that.....in fact, it is my subtle way to make the point. The destabilization would be catastrophic.......which is probably why China plays the game, as destabilized west does not work to their best interests .......IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIAHN Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 For those that think this war is expensive............ www.washingtonpost.com › world › 2021/08/20War in Afghanistan: How much did the U.S. spend, troops ... Aug 20, 2021 · Nearly 20 years of war, 10 days to fall: Afghanistan, by the numbers The United States has spent an estimated $2,261,000,000,000, or more than $2 trillion, on the war effort. Factor inflation, and I would imagine it is well over the 3 Trillion.......that is with a "T" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, JIAHN said: For those that think this war is expensive............ www.washingtonpost.com › world › 2021/08/20War in Afghanistan: How much did the U.S. spend, troops ... Aug 20, 2021 · Nearly 20 years of war, 10 days to fall: Afghanistan, by the numbers The United States has spent an estimated $2,261,000,000,000, or more than $2 trillion, on the war effort. Factor inflation, and I would imagine it is well over the 3 Trillion.......that is with a "T" Yes, but that was their war…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Yes, but that was their war…. And the Ukrainians are exterminating a far more dangerous enemy of the US for far cheaper. It's a fantastic bargain. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: And the Ukrainians are exterminating a far more dangerous enemy of the US for far cheaper. It's a fantastic bargain. Yeah, it's kinda like outsourcing a crappy job. Excellent value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Crimea getting disheveled.. to add as an FYI: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Operation on Crimea today has been Well planned .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarneyKook Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, D.B Cooper said: Yes, but that was their war…. And Ukrainians (and how many other countries) fought in Americas bogus wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Was just reading about it a little earlier today Edited January 6 by BarneyKook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Boudrias Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 From the Putin perspective Russia is in long term decline. Their industry is more reliant on western inputs and the nations demographic is getting much older. If Putin takes Ukraine he gains the population and a military that has much equipment and technology. Yes, a valid point to suggest that pacifying a defeated Ukraine could take much time. NATO is extremely short sighted if they do not arm Ukraine to their max. Ukraine has to win this war or all Europe will suffer the consequences. Any idea that Putin will entertain peace talks is simply a gambit to stall for rebuilding his military. Putin will not yield to Ukraine as it will eliminate Russia's perceived position as a world power. Defeat of Russia will threaten their hold on Siberia and throw the Moscow power structure out the window. It will join all the other corpses on the ground below. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Shouldn’t he be arrested as acting as a forge in agent? I mean.. wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Slava Ukrani ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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