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1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

McCarthy the sneaky prick.

 

He knows by stripping this and forcing it to a separate vote it puts those loud mouths in the freedom caucus front and centre for blame for if this is struck down when most Dems and GOP members support further aid as do most americans by the polls.

 

He is basically dumping blame in their lap and that's political gamesmanship the freedom caucus is too stupid to recognize

She is playing to her conspiracy base.
 

I know Canadians that think the war in Ukraine is part of the great reset. That we are giving Canadian taxpayers money to Ukraine so that it can be redistributed to the elite. 
 

Although McCarthy is ducking the blame how many American voters think Greene is doing the right thing? Putin is counting on it.

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29 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said:

I know Canadians that think the war in Ukraine is part of the great reset. That we are giving Canadian taxpayers money to Ukraine so that it can be redistributed to the elite. 

Lol Pretty sure that's not resetting anything. Money funneling towards the capitalists has been going on for awhile pretty sure it's called capitalism...oh boy these people. Probably think there's reptiles involved in there too somewhere. Pesky alligators 

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1 hour ago, Yoshiyoshi said:

I dont, I want this war to continue until Ukraine regains its territory and Russia is crippled and is able to be punished for the crimes they have committed. A quick ending just means that Russia will be back at it in a few years

Well I was implying that Ukraine would win and regain their territory. But I don’t understand how anyone can hope for any day longer of this war…

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3 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

McCarthy vows to strip Ukraine money from Pentagon bill after Greene ‘no’ vote

 
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McCarthy vows to strip Ukraine money from Pentagon bill after Greene ‘no’ vote

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Friday that he will strip funding for Ukraine out of a Pentagon spending bill after Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) joined conservatives in blocking the legislation from advancing earlier this week.

 

McCarthy said he would remove the $300 million for Ukraine currently in the Pentagon appropriations bill and hold a separate vote on the funding.

 

“It would be out and voted on by itself,” McCarthy said when asked about the Ukraine aid in the Pentagon appropriations bill.

 

The Speaker’s announcement comes one day after a band of five conservatives opposed a procedural vote for the Pentagon appropriations bill, sinking the effort and preventing the legislation from moving forward. It was the second time this week that hard-liners blocked the funding bill from advancing.

 

Votes on rules — which govern debate for legislation — are normally partisan and predictable matters, with the majority supporting voting “yes” and the minority party voting “no.” It is very rare for rules to fail on the floor.

 

Greene, who has emerged as a close ally of McCarthy, was one of the Republicans who voted against the rule Thursday “because it funds the war in Ukraine.” It was a shift from her vote Tuesday, when the congresswoman supported the procedural vote to advance the Defense measure.

 

The rule failed for a second time on the same day that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky met with lawmakers in the Capitol.

 

The Pentagon funding bill includes $300 million “to provide assistance, including training; equipment; lethal assistance; logistics support, supplies and services; salaries and stipends; sustainment; and intelligence support to the military and national security forces of Ukraine, and to other forces or groups recognized by and under the authority of the Government of Ukraine, including governmental entities within Ukraine, engaged in resisting Russian aggression against Ukraine, for replacement of any weapons or articles provided to the Government of Ukraine from the inventory of the United States.”

 

Greene has come out against sending additional money to Ukraine. On Friday morning, she went live on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, and said she would support the measure if the Ukraine aid is taken out.

 

Following McCarthy’s announcement Friday, Greene said it was “frustrating” that it took leadership so long to strip out the money.

 

“This should have happened weeks ago,” Greene told The Hill in a statement. “I’ve made it loud and clear that I would not vote for a single penny of Ukraine funding. It’s frustrating to me things had to get to this level, that we had to waste an entire week when we could have been passing appropriations.

 

“Our defense appropriations bill should never be going to fund a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, so this is a victory for common sense,” she later added. “I’m proud to have made it happen.”

 

The failed rule vote Thursday was a blow to McCarthy, who has sought to advance the appropriations process ahead of a Sept. 30 shutdown deadline — to no avail.

 

In addition to the two failed rule votes for the Pentagon appropriations bill, leadership scrapped plans to vote on a partisan continuing resolution to keep the government funded past Sept. 30 on Tuesday after a number of conservatives said they were against the proposal.

 

House GOP leadership sent members home Thursday night after no progress was made all week.

 


 

shes a bit thick with the Neanderthal DNA ..

 

 

  but it’s all she’s got.

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51 minutes ago, Mr Wrong said:

Well I was implying that Ukraine would win and regain their territory. But I don’t understand how anyone can hope for any day longer of this war…

its just a different way of looking at the conflict. I want a real end to the suffering not just a temporary one. I dont want Russia to move on to someone else in a few years because we pushed for peace as quick as possible. So long as Ukraine is willing to fight for victory instead of peace I will support them to the hilt. If they grow weary of the fighting and accept a peace over victory i will support them too even if it disappoints me because it isnt Ukraines job to protect the world. But so long as they have the will to fight then they should get all the support they can because they arent just helping themselves, they are helping everyone in the free world weaken one of the greatest threats to peace and western ideals. Remember just because the war ends doesnt necessarily mean that the violence ends.

 

 

If my response felt like an attack on you i apologize. I have seen the justification of a quick end to the war as an excuse to give in to Russia too many times so I react a bit aggressively towards that.

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2 hours ago, Mr Wrong said:

Well I was implying that Ukraine would win and regain their territory. But I don’t understand how anyone can hope for any day longer of this war…

No one wants war. But why should Ukraine agree to end the war to defend their country now if it means they must give up territory to the invaders? Why should those suffering Ukrainian people have to move? 
Ukraine needs to have all of their country. And the Russian criminal invaders need to be brought to Justice. 

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11 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

 


PB,  this just came up on my thread ..

 

seems the ATACMS will be able to just cross the border,.    My guess is to Hopefully gain a NO fly zone / Barrier to end this invasion .

Although it could really shut down any intentions Luko has.

The guidance “cassette” chip seems to be the deal maker..

but we know UKR ingenuity and innovation in Arms design,. Is now becoming intelligence and ability 😉 

 

 

 

 

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